Any Arnerson powered Cigs out there?
 

Curious to if they made any Arnerson powered TG's or Tigers. Details?

There are a 38 TS in Russia do a search and you will find info.

Cigaretteman

There's a guy in up state New York with Arnerson on his Top Gun with 1000's I met last year. Cig Rocket may know who I talking about. He had them installed. Can't remember his name and number right now.

Here is one

Here is a 1996 38 Top Gun. Located in NY

Here is a 38 located in WI. 1987 Model I think with Arneson 1600's

LOL !!! - Those thing are BAD ASS !!!

How do you climb up that swim step without loosing a limb?

wow, the running shot of the one in ny is trimmed out nice!

Same way you do if the boats had a Speed Master drive and the same Mercury Cleaver propeller.

I've yet to see anyone get injured on the Arnesons but if you search you will find plenty of people who have been mangled from a Bravo, an Outboard and everything else. :eek:

I bet this old lady is bad A$$ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rik, so it seems you can get the props deep and centered, similar to a staggared layout. Of course you engines are still side by side. is that correct?

I believe that is kvogt's boat. Badass for sure.


Arnesons are awesome, would love to strap an asd6 onto the back of anything and get some 'tail'.

Happened on my last bravo boat.......

Stay away from all props.

Shhh... All bad has to lay with Arnesons in some peoples minds :D

Exactly. This is how the original ones were configured and setup back in the day so to say. The boats did not have the engine room/cockpit configuration for a stagger setup so with a pair of side by side engines you get get the stagger performance.

Today with the larger engine rooms and cockpit configurations we can stagger the engines also and use a different drive configuration.

Of course what is good is also bad. This is what lead to the misnomer that Arnesons are difficult to dock as everyone "now" knows a stagger setup is more difficult to dock than a side by side but back then there were very few pleasure boats that were staggered. So when they had a side by side engine setup in a boat they felt they should dock like a typical side by side boat BUT these are setup with a stagger propeller shaft centerline.. Hence, they are more difficult to dock.

Put all drives with the propellers on the same centerline and they all basically dock the same.:eek:

The new setups are much cleaner and easier to install also.

Even w/ the prop way back from where a bravo would be?
How much further back are the props than on a bravo?
Unfortunately, the last time i saw some ASD's was on a 53magnum... yrs back, and i remember them being quite long.

And how about from a fresh start cost wise, bravo vs asd6.

how much more mph do you pick up having arnesons?

from a bravo........between 5-10% maybe..?

I'll take the 5 - 10 percent along with they don't break.

Kris

On a 53' Magnum they are long but so is the boat and these are not the same drive units. We make 11 different sizes ranging from the ones here to the largest that weighs over 2,500 lbs each. The 53' Magnum has a pair of 1,000 hp Cat diesels putting 3,500 lbs of torque to the water.

Our #7M is 4" longer than a Bravo on a standoff box. Not that much difference.

Cost wise, one has to compare the whole package as the Arneson comes with a standoff box, external steering and such so adding all that into the cost of a Bravo we are priced better. List is $23K for the #7M with everything. Add up what the Bravo XR with the HD Gimbal, the standoff box, the upgraded shafts, drive showers, billet caps, external steering and on and on cost for a Bravo and the cost will surpass the Arneson Kit and not be as strong nor fast. Oh did I mention warranty on the Bravo setup?

They look great!!!!!!!!

I remember speaking to an Arnerson rep at the Miami show a few years back. He mentioned that you need to have the transom square with the hull, in other words they will not work with notch transoms, typical on Fountains. Is that true? Figured the 38 gun and / or a Tiger with a bravo retrofit would be a hell of a setup. I would do it for the tail alone.

post #4 has a notch.....im sure its more a product of a particular hull.....than all boats with notch hulls.

Rik, thanks.

I believe that was reference to a Stagger setup where the notch is an area of concern for a stagger Arneson. fortunately with the #7M's for example, the area of concern in the notch is greatly reduced to about 2" of height.

On a normal side by side the notch does not represent an issue at all.

I cannot think of a boat today that does not have a notch of some size. The Arnesons are installed and work well on these boats and the only setup with a little concern is the stagger.

Example of a sie by side

So do you have to mount the drives higher up to conpensate for the notch, as one would with bravo / #6 installs?

No, actually the engines will sit about 1-2" lower than a Bravo Setup. A #6 has a larger X than a Bravo so the engine would be even lower which helps the CG and helps the boats tendency to pitch roll.

NO **** - I sliced my side all the way through into the bone last summer trying to moon someone - luckily the scar isn't HORRIBLE, and this was a couple weeks after a friend cut his knee all the way to the bone - 19 stitches.....

I should have thrown that propeller away out of spite....