Need opinions on this boat. 2002 38' TG
 

I have been in the sand world for the last 8 years and am going to the boat world now. I know little to nothing about boats and have never owned one. I have done a lot of looking and I think I have seen every boat for sale on the entire internet. Lol. I think this one might work for me and wanted some input from the experts. I live in Michigan and the boat would spend a lot of time on Lake Michigan. Thank you for any input you have on this boat. Also, can someone tell me the cabin headroom height? I have looked through all threads and cant find the info..
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29316-en.html

I cant comment on the boat cause I don't know about it , but I will tell you t omake sure you get a survey done ( by your guy) and if you do purchase something, take the Tres Martin Performance School course.. it will be the best thing you did for you and more importantly your friends and family who will be you on the boat.

Good Luck,, you will enjoy !

Looks like a clean good looking boat. Priced right. Perfect for Lake Michigan. Just don't turn like an idiot and your fine. With 500's I don't even think you'd have a problem. Steps are definetly the way to go.

X2.........

You should have some wiggle room on the asking price, since the boat doesn't have ITS steering & has the 500EFI's instead of 525's.

After the 2001 models, the standard engines on that model were usually 525's with ITS steering. Some of the 02's got 500's without ITS, depending on when they were built in 2001.

It will be a nice reliable boat with that power. I would continue to look around at what else is out there with that asking price, just to weigh your options. I bet you could find one with 525's & ITS for real close to that number. The asking price is almost always negotiable.

Good luck, can't go wrong with a Cigarette. :drink:

And the people, their friends and family that boat around you!

looks like a nice clean boat!

might also want to take a look at wilds tg.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o29983-en.html

That's a hell of an entrance into the water world.

Play smart.

38 T/S Gun is a boat you probably can't go wrong on...

Thanks for your input guys. I cant believe nobody whats to tell me the height of the cabin. There has been over 211 visits to this thread. Maybe because I am the new guy. I know how that works in forums.

Low, not sure of he exact height, but I am 6'2" and I really need to lower my head when I am down there... I am going to guess around 5 1/5 feet or so

I am not sure on the headroom in the newer guns but on my Cafe' it is not that high. I am 6' and have to hunch over to walk around down there. I imagine the gun is going to be about the same.

Where are you from and maybe someone around you has one you can walk through and see one in person.

I've never measured mine but I agree it's around 5 feet at the entry and gets lower as you go forward. I would say its in the middle of the pack as far as head room. More than a 42 Fountian or 38 Donzi ZR. Less than a 38 Donzi ZX.

If you want head room, most performance boats are going to be on the low side. 38 ZX donzi, Black Thunders, some of the Baja models will give you the most cabin room. Fountain SC will have some room.

I've got the same boat only a 2001 with the 500efis. Boat performs well runs nice at LOTO has a good cruise speed Runs 80 and should be as reliable as any bravo boat can.

That's a new one....

Nobody "wants" to tell you the cabin height? Like it's some secret right of passage, that only 5+ year members are privy to....? How did you find out our dark secret?? :lolhit:

If someone knew the height of the cabin, they would have posted it for you. That's not a question that gets asked much though, because almost no one buying a Cigarette really cares? :popcorn:

If you're looking for an 8ft tall cabin & a playroom, buy a Black Thunder or a Sea Ray. If you're looking for an offshore powerboat, buy Wild's Top Gun. It's the best deal on the market, and a perfect boat. :sport009:

Love that boat! A buddy own the "sister boat to that (though his has zuls) Really nice turn key package. It's been for sale for a while most likely due to what Brandon talked about with the 500's and xr's vs. 525's and its. I also agree wilds boat is a great boat at a great price!

Good luck on a purchase. Great time to buy.

I'm not sure about the cabin height either but thiers plenty of room to get your business on.

I'll be in one on Sunday...I'll measure if for ya. I'm 6'2" and had a TS Gun and found the height not to be an issue at all.
Honestly, you're really down there to get something you need or to get it on with a hotie.... If ya want a cabin boat...the amenities..not sure this is the boat for you...
Kind of like the X5..know it well..... if you want a badass sand ride...thats your machine.. If ya want to cruise the dunes in comfort....less driver involvement you get a Funco.

Not sure of the exact height, but...Unless you're a midget, you aren't standing up when you're down there.

niceeeee. If we had dunes just a LITTLE closer, I'd have one of those. :cool:

4'8"-5'0" is my guess. My wife is 5'5" and she has to bend REAL far over....

There we go. Thanks for the help and your time. I was just trying to get an idea on how big the boat and cabin was. I have never seen one so I didnt know. I have been in a Outerlimits 37 and a Powerquest 38 and wanted to get an idea as size to them.... Nice Funco. I have a Extreme Performance DTD right now. My last rail was a Buckshot.

smaller than the 2 listed.. by at least 6"

Don't worry about the head room .... stick with a Cig !

Call Phil at LIPSHIP.com

If the 02 is in nice condition, buy it! Grafikworx paint and 500efi's are a plus.

We take our quads and bikes to OK to ride dunes.....

We Have a 02 Top Gun with 500 efi s that we love !!

4' 10.5" depends where you mearsure at exactly. Both OL37 and PQ38 are at 5'8". Jeff

525's and ITS start in 04

Still looking for a great 01-04 TS Top Gun!! Help me out Blume!!

I don't want to come across as a jerk, but a 38' Cig as a first boat? Even with mild power, that's going to be a handful, around the docks if nothing else. Please take the advice of the first couple of folks who responded and save a few grand to go to a serious driving school. And not just you, but your spouse as well if you are married, as there is always going to be the chance she will have to get you home. If she is anything like my ex, you will have to fight her to drive! :D

I love boating, and learned the old fashion way, so yes, I'm old school. :) And the more folks out there having fun the better. But I was hesitant to step up 10' in length, even after driving a 30' boat a good deal of the summer. Had a good friend who used to race boats not said he would be totally comfortable riding with me in a 38, (it was his 30 I was driving) I would have still been hunting for a 30 instead of going with a 35.

Just me.... But whatever you get, have fun and be safe! :) You can't go wrong with a Cigarette either way you look at it!



And edited to say, THANK YOU for you service in the sand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Glad you made it back safely!!!

I am not going to disagree but that depends largely on the person. I stepped from my father's 1974 Wellcraft V20 into my Cafe Racer and didn't miss a beat. Never cracked a dock, never had a mishap (other than me trying to moon someone, and slipping off the swim platform and slicing my side open on the prop). Personality, and experience around the water play a big roll - I know the T/S is a slightly different animal than my cafe and either way you can't be too careful, but depending on the person it might not be a terrible step.

PM me your email I might have something.

I moved up from a 24 footer to a 35 ft Mistress. It felt big for the first few weeks. But it was no big deal. If you can drive a 30 ft. boat now then go for at least a 35 footer. I've since moved to a Top Gun, have fun.