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Rik 08-16-2010 11:37 PM

Another Top Gun with Arneson!
 
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Here is another non step 38' Top Gun that converted to Arnesons.

Another 100+ mph Cig. :D

carter38 08-17-2010 12:59 AM

Wow that is awesome what power single carb?

thisistank 08-17-2010 01:18 AM

Where's it from Rik?

Expat 08-17-2010 01:46 AM

Rik, yes more details please. What number drives? HP? Recent conversion? Don't hold back on us.

Rik 08-17-2010 02:13 AM

New Jersey, without the accent!

Kurt's Marine motor made like 840 hp. Don't know at what rpm with the single carb. I was shocked when the customer told me the speed as the goal was just 90 a mph cruiser. They basically hit 100 with 500 rpm to go. 105 should be reachable he said.

Just completed the conversion from Bravo's to the #7M's. I think this is a 1998 hull but it could be an 1988??? Gotta ask that Q. I know it's a non step hull and that is about all I know about it other than it has a notched transom.

UrbanDisturbance 08-17-2010 06:39 AM

We need video or pictures of the rooster!:drink:
RICK. I'm wondering, if you don't have cash to purchase Arneson drives + PROPS, what is the best way to finance them? A personal loan at the bank will kill me. It's just too much interest. I have been wanting Arneson's for 5 years, I just can't swing the cash. Advise?

carter38 08-17-2010 08:53 AM

Just curious what does something like this setup cost??

UrbanDisturbance 08-17-2010 09:25 AM


Originally Posted by carter38 (Post 3184100)
Just curious what does something like this setup cost??

You need to call Rick on that one. Prices may change and it is not my place to quote pricing. After installation and props, it cost more than my new 4x4 Dually Deisel Dodge Mega Cab, Manual Transmission. That is why I inquired the best way to finance. I'm just a 3D computer animator, not a lawyer or doctor. I should have choosen a different carreer.:lolhit:
Nevertheless, I will get some Arneson drives one day......I hope!:drink: I'm still waiting on the buy one, get one free!:grinser010:

drpete3 08-17-2010 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanDisturbance (Post 3184126)
You need to call Rick on that one. Prices may change and it is not my place to quote pricing. After installation and props, it cost more than my new 4x4 Dually Deisel Dodge Mega Cab, Manual Transmission. That is why I inquired the best way to finance. I'm just a 3D computer animator, not a lawyer or doctor. I should have choosen a different carreer.:lolhit:
Nevertheless, I will get some Arneson drives one day......I hope!:drink: I'm still waiting on the buy one, get one free!:grinser010:

Wait !!! I dont even ahve a Dually:angry-smiley-038:

drpete3 08-17-2010 11:56 AM

Also why will it run so much fast than a merc drive? Height and drag of the drives? more boat out of the water?

t500hps 08-17-2010 12:01 PM

I'm guessing they did a power upgrade when they did the drive upgrades.
I talked to Rik about converting my old 382 and he said they had done 5 of them. All picked up roughly 10 mph with the same engines after the conversion.....aside from the cost, I just couldn't have those props hanging way back there since the kids swim off the boat every weekend.

Rik 08-17-2010 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by t500hps (Post 3184252)
I'm guessing they did a power upgrade when they did the drive upgrades.
I talked to Rik about converting my old 382 and he said they had done 5 of them. All picked up roughly 10 mph with the same engines after the conversion.....aside from the cost, I just couldn't have those props hanging way back there since the kids swim off the boat every weekend.

This is why I made a propeller guard so that this is not an issue

DirtyMoney 08-17-2010 03:53 PM

Rik was the notch not an issue?

DirtyMoney 08-17-2010 03:55 PM

Any loss of speed or performance from the prop guard?

Rik 08-17-2010 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by rbr2328 (Post 3184434)
Any loss of speed or performance from the prop guard?

Notch was not an issue an the propeller guards do not affect performance at all.

Rik 08-17-2010 04:56 PM

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You can see the guards in this photo.

Expat 08-17-2010 05:12 PM

Rik,

How much hp and torque will that set up take? And, how much modification to transom and/or engine placement to convert from a Bravo type set up? Transmissions?

Thanks, db

Rik 08-17-2010 05:59 PM

I rate them at 850 hp. Most have more though.

No glass work as they cover the Bravo cutout.

1350 BAM's

Engines stay in the same basic Bravo location. TRS applications allow the engine to come rearward.

Expat 08-17-2010 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3184533)
I rate them at 850 hp. Most have more though.

No glass work as they cover the Bravo cutout.

1350 BAM's

Engines stay in the same basic Bravo location. TRS applications allow the engine to come rearward.

Sounds better and better. You really got me thinking now.

Quinlan 08-17-2010 06:48 PM

Done any T/S ?

Rik 08-17-2010 07:50 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 3184561)
Done any T/S ?

Yes, two 38' T/S in Europe.

Back4More 08-17-2010 07:50 PM

I notice the steering is a bit different. I see the rams on the inside and along the side of the drives. Is this new?
I have also been considering this conversion. I need 100mph in my life.

offshoredrillin 08-17-2010 08:13 PM

Rik,
how much further back is the prop as compared to a #6 or an IMCO SCX? is the center line of the prop shaft that much higher?

Rik 08-17-2010 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by Back4More (Post 3184614)
I notice the steering is a bit different. I see the rams on the inside and along the side of the drives. Is this new?
I have also been considering this conversion. I need 100mph in my life.

This is how the #7M's steering is. A lot cleaner than previous models.

Rik 08-17-2010 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by offshoredrillin (Post 3184639)
Rik,
how much further back is the prop as compared to a #6 or an IMCO SCX? is the center line of the prop shaft that much higher?

It's very similar to a Bravo on a box or a #6 Merc. The propeller shaft is trimable so it can be up or down in comparison to others by the touch of a button.

carter38 08-18-2010 12:14 AM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 3184561)
Done any T/S ?

I think you need these that tail you could throw would have a cool factor of 13+ just saying!

Quinlan 08-18-2010 05:04 AM

Rock ON!

Face It 08-18-2010 07:06 AM

Rik, Thanks for the info on the drives for my 40' Fountain

Rik 08-18-2010 01:59 PM

No problem

Brad 08-18-2010 02:25 PM

Rik what is this boat used for?
 
I don't understand!http://www.arneson-industries.com/sh...M-V_Boat_2.jpg

Rik 08-18-2010 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by Brad (Post 3185251)

The only thing I can, for an actual use, come up with would be the ultimate photo boat for a magazine company.

Imagine the boat could drive through the center and someone could take some awesome photos.

Other than that.... It's use for a remote offshore patrol boat?

drpete3 08-18-2010 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3185256)
The only thing I can, for an actual use, come up with would be the ultimate photo boat for a magazine company.

Imagine the boat could drive through the center and someone could take some awesome photos.

Other than that.... It's use for a remote offshore patrol boat?

Thos cross members must have some type of hing system. I can imagine a lot of torsion on them out in big seas. It must have a purpose but Im clueless

Rik 08-18-2010 05:09 PM

Actually there are none and there is a lot of stress on that design. The would have been better with a top plate rib to make it stiffer.

39hatteras 08-18-2010 09:35 PM

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Picture of my slingshot Rik converted awesome rooster w/arnesons.

NEVERSATISFIED 08-20-2010 07:07 PM

39hatteras
How was the boat previously rigged and what speed change and handling difference did you see?
Thanks, Steve


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