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ICDEDPPL 01-18-2011 10:22 AM

1989 Cig.
 
I`ve been drawn to this boat everytime I do a search, love the colors, drives, motors etc.
What does something like this weigh?
What do you guys think of the price?
Fuel is probably gonna get a bit more expensive huh:drink: (over my single 600SC)


http://grandsportcenter.com/pop/1989_cigarette_35.htm

UrbanDisturbance 01-18-2011 10:51 AM

Very nice boat. Good horsepower, good drives. It does not look as old as it is. Nevertheless, they are asking too much money. I was asking $75,000 for my 38 foot, 1994 Cigarette Top Gun. Twin 600hp supercharged 502's with 50 hours on them. Roller motors. Boat has only been in FRESHWATER. I think no one wanted my boat because it has bravo 1 drives. Had 2 phone calls in 2 years. I'm keeping the boat now. Those engines will take at least super unleaded. Regular gas is predicted to be $5.00/ gallon by the end of 2012, thanks to Obama. So, $5.40 for superunleaded. My 600hp superchgared motors burn about 45 gallons per hour at 3000rpm cruise. Those 800hp engines will most likely burn more, lets say 55 gallons per hour at cruise. That is $297.00 per hour at cruising speed. If you want to go faster, double it. :eek:

ICDEDPPL 01-18-2011 12:23 PM

Just the info I was looking, thank you.
P.S. Any idea on weight?

drpete3 01-18-2011 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3300307)
I`ve been drawn to this boat everytime I do a search, love the colors, drives, motors etc.
What does something like this weigh?
What do you guys think of the price?
Fuel is probably gonna get a bit more expensive huh:drink: (over my single 600SC)


http://grandsportcenter.com/pop/1989_cigarette_35.htm

I started a thread on this boat a year ago on a differnt site. Many warned me that this is not going to be a cheap boat no matter what I pay for it

UrbanDisturbance 01-18-2011 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3300443)
I started a thread on this boat a year ago on a differnt site. Many warned me that this is not going to be a cheap boat no matter what I pay for it

Now that I am thinking about it, I have Dart Block, Supercharged 509's (502 Block). Dyno at 600hp at 5500rpm. That's with 6.5-7 lbs of boost and super unleaded. The only way that I know how to get 850hp would to be to stroke it to a 540, added bigger blowers and add an intercooler. I think it would be impossible to get 850hp out of a 502, unless you put jet fuel and nitros to it.

BDiggity 01-18-2011 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3300431)
Just the info I was looking, thank you.
P.S. Any idea on weight?

9500 according to Cigarette

OldSchool 01-18-2011 01:07 PM

I'm not knocking the boat in ANY way, but in my humble opinion, it doesn't matter how nice it is, it would be foolish to pay more than 50K for it, and count on engine rebuild $$$ within a year if they're finding a way to make that HP. Oh yea, you better have cash, because no one will finance it because it's too old.

Not trying to be Debbie Downer.... Just honest. :) Because of the economy, the market has been set. ;)

UrbanDisturbance 01-18-2011 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3300480)
I'm not knocking the boat in ANY way, but in my humble opinion, it doesn't matter how nice it is, it would be foolish to pay more than 50K for it, and count on engine rebuild $$$ within a year if they're finding a way to make that HP. Oh yea, you better have cash, because no one will finance it because it's too old.

Not trying to be Debbie Downer.... Just honest. :) Because of the economy, the market has been set. ;)

I agree with you. Maybe pay $50,000, and have $20,000 ready on the side for a possible rebuild.

seafordguy 01-18-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3300480)
Not trying to be Debbie Downer.... Just honest. :) Because of the economy, the market has been set. ;)

C'mon Old School - don't remind us:lolhit:

You'll be close to what the attached spec sheet shows. BUT remember that is before the swim platform, tie bar, external hydraulic steering, anchor, blowers, strainers, etc, etc, etc. Expect quite a bit more in weight - I think most of us Cafe Guys estimate 14-15k full loaded on the trailer.

Also - i bet that the fuel will be the cheapest part of 800hp blower motors in the long run!!

Oh - and as much as I love Cafe's I wouldn't pay anywhere near 75k for that boat.... My .02

Sick Stinger 01-18-2011 04:28 PM

75K might as well leave it in the show room and take the power out its not going anywhere for a while and its been for sale a longgggggg time. Its a great boat and looks killer but price is nuts plus the power is alway i need of toying with.
-Mike

ICDEDPPL 01-18-2011 05:16 PM

Thanx guys that helps a lot.. my gut feeling was thats its just too much boat for me and a possible $$ pit. I couldn`t find the motor on Chiefs site so I wasn`t aware that
they are pushing them to the max to get that HP #
I think I like the drives more than the boat plus at that weight Id be looking at a new tow vehicle too which would complicate things.

soggy bottom 01-18-2011 05:36 PM

89 cig
 
Hi you could allways run smaller pulleys on the blowers and solve alot of issues with just that IE: run reg gas and easly double the life of they engines, but that still dosn't change that it's not priced right for this current market.

ICDEDPPL 01-18-2011 06:53 PM

You mean bigger pulleys:drink:

RMPRam 01-18-2011 08:42 PM

The drives are advertised to be #3A's. They look, from what I can see in the pictures, to be some early non-crescent #3 drives.

10x 01-19-2011 12:07 AM

Old School is right. Way too much $$$ for that boat. I'd really have to see how they can honestly say that they are 850 hp engines. That right there tells me that I have questions about anything else that's said about the boat. Take a close look at the trailer, it's about 4 feet too short for that boat, the azz end hangs wayyyy over the end of the bunks.

For 80K, you can find a real nice top gun with decent power, and you'll be glad you did. And BTW, don't worry about your driveway, you'll get it in there like there's no tomorrow. LOL :drink:

cigrocket 01-19-2011 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by RMPRam (Post 3300932)
The drives are advertised to be #3A's. They look, from what I can see in the pictures, to be some early non-crescent #3 drives.

This has been discussed before, they are not 3A's, they are the old, non cresent #3's on the boat. Just in case you were thinking of this boat. Good luck, buyers market and that boat has been there a long time. Since before I was looking at my Top Gun 3 years ago.

I have Chief 502's and they don't make 850HP. If they are chief, then I would give Tommy a Call and ask about the engines. His 502's were 675-700HP. The next step up were 540's.

wnelles 01-19-2011 01:02 PM

Here’s another very nice option for you and real close to the same money. This one won’t use a third of the gas and is probably only a couple mph slower.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35910-en.html

10x 01-19-2011 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by wnelles (Post 3301544)
Here’s another very nice option for you and real close to the same money. This one won’t use a third of the gas and is probably only a couple mph slower.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35910-en.html

Now THIS one is a great deal for what you're gettin for the money.

Sea-Dated 01-19-2011 01:21 PM

I'll sell you my Cafe' for much less than that. No trailer but you will save enough to buy a new Myco.

drpete3 01-19-2011 01:27 PM

Both of the recent posts are better options. The 35 gun has a similar red and white paint job. And Sea dated cafe is on the top banner of OSO. Much better choices

J-Bonz 01-19-2011 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by drpete3 (Post 3301569)
Both of the recent posts are better options. The 35 gun has a similar red and white paint job. And Sea dated cafe is on the top banner of OSO. Much better choices

I agee 100%.... Plus I will add this one into the mix.. I saw it up close 2 summers ago and it was as clean as the pictures show...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37640-en.html

ICDEDPPL 01-19-2011 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by wnelles (Post 3301544)
Here’s another very nice option for you and real close to the same money. This one won’t use a third of the gas and is probably only a couple mph slower.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o35910-en.html

yeah I`ve drooled over that one a few times too , I`m really trying to stay away from anything Bravo thou..


Originally Posted by Sea-Dated (Post 3301562)
I'll sell you my Cafe' for much less than that. No trailer but you will save enough to buy a new Myco.

info? pics?price?



Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 3302094)
I agee 100%.... Plus I will add this one into the mix.. I saw it up close 2 summers ago and it was as clean as the pictures show...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37640-en.html

Yup thats a new one on there.. it does look as good as the pics?

Sea-Dated 01-20-2011 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3302116)
info? pics?price?

PM Sent

drpete3 01-20-2011 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3302116)
yeah I`ve drooled over that one a few times too , I`m really trying to stay away from anything Bravo thou..



info? pics?price?




Yup thats a new one on there.. it does look as good as the pics?

I would stay away from the old 3 drives myself. If your not over powereed and hard on the throttles Bravos can be fine

4195 01-20-2011 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by J-Bonz (Post 3302094)
I agee 100%.... Plus I will add this one into the mix.. I saw it up close 2 summers ago and it was as clean as the pictures show...

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37640-en.html

Hey that boat ripped off my paint job! Boat looks good.

4195 01-20-2011 01:21 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 3302116)
yeah I`ve drooled over that one a few times too , I`m really trying to stay away from anything Bravo thou..



info? pics?price?




Yup thats a new one on there.. it does look as good as the pics?

Depending on power don't discount the Bravo's I never had any trouble with them on my Cafe with 550hp. 7 years no issues.

ICDEDPPL 01-20-2011 03:59 PM

Seems its not that much of an issue on a twin since they help each other out.. I`ve broken 2 now in 2 seasons. 600sc single and a light boat I thought they`d last longer too..

10x 01-20-2011 11:22 PM

A few more bucks, but well worth the investment in the long run. This one will run in the triple digit club.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37242-en.html

carter38 01-21-2011 02:46 AM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 3302532)
Hey that boat ripped off my paint job! Boat looks good.

Same guy that built seadated's boat built this one.

Sea-Dated 01-21-2011 08:52 AM


Originally Posted by carter38 (Post 3303202)
Same guy that built seadated's boat built this one.

And he did great work!!!!!

kreed 01-21-2011 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by 10x (Post 3303173)
A few more bucks, but well worth the investment in the long run. This one will run in the triple digit club.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...o37242-en.html

WOW, super nice boat!

sunsation96 01-21-2011 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3303461)
WOW, super nice boat!

+1:coolcowboy::eek:


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