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Cig19 10-02-2011 11:17 AM

72 Cigarette 19ft for sale hull#1
 
for sale

1972 cigarette racing team 19
a true piece of history from thunderboat row on 188th and don aronow and his design team at cigarette racing .




power and mechanicals

the boat was fully restored in 2004 with originality and reliabilty in
mind. the boat is powered by the original motor a chris craft chevy LT1
corvette 350 ci engine mated to a volvo penta aqua matic 270 outdrive.
then original color scheme of black and yellow was updated from gel to
paint. awlcraft 2000 jet black with awlcraft yellow stripes. the
standard teak stripe and wood work was upgraded to marine mahogany with
a few coats of varnish. the original chris craft exhaust setup and raw
water system were removed and upgraded to stainless marine exhaust with
a cross over cooling system. these upgrades gave some performance
enhancements with a weight reduction and allowing the motor to breathe
better. the original risers are available and will go with the sale of
the boat. the wiring and electrical harness was replaced. the motor has
new edelbrock aluminum heads increasing the horsepower to about 350hp.
the boat will also come with a custom made black tandem bunk trailer
made by performance trailers of warrensberg ny. the boat has a 23 solas
prop and will run high 50's just to 60 mph. you will not find a better
riding 19 foot boat out there.

history

this is a 2 owner boat which has lived it's entire live on greenwood
lake ny. 1972 was the first year for the cig 19, it would later be named
the 20. there was no change in length but do to uscg regulations at the
time for floatation foam in 19 foot and under, the boat was called a 20
in 1973. the original owner purchased the boat at the 1972 ny boat show
which was held in dec of 1971 at the nyc coliseum.i believe this to be
cig 19 hull number one. the boat and motor were built in fall of 1971 a
year before the uscg made stamping hull identification numbers on the
right side of the transom mandatory. during the restoration some unique
facts have been uncovered on the boat. when the original front buckets
seats handwritten marking cig 19 were found . these were written by the
workers at bilt-rite interiors who did all of the interiors for the
early donzi and cigs from 188th st. when the heads were replaced it was
also noted that certain design features and materials that were used
were only made in the 1971 version of that motor. this is a true piece
of history that can be used and enjoyed

There is nothing this boat needs. It has sat on a lift since its restoration and is immaculate.

I have been to a few gatherings and poker runs and feel great when people walk past a 300K boat and walk up to mine to see what it is. This is the one to own if you want a 20 that has been restored to original with some modern day updates.

I am asking 30K or best offer. (includes $3500 trailer)


Ken

Cig19 10-02-2011 11:45 AM

I am trying to put up some pics......don't see any option for attachments??

offshoredrillin 10-02-2011 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3517801)
I am trying to put up some pics......don't see any option for attachments??

registered members cant post pics, either become a paying member or host them on photo bucket. Also fyi in order to list a boat in the forum for sale you must also have a corresponding paid for classified add.

78CIG24 10-03-2011 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3517772)
....i believe this to be cig 19 hull number one.

Since this only had 2 owners wouldn't the title have the HIN on it that would confirm this is hull #1???

"Believing" and actually being one thing, without documentation it is sort of a stretch ain't it?

No offense inteneded or implied, I am just very interested in actual history of these things AND I do hope it is #1 and has survived, that would be a GOOD THING!!!

Oh also as mentioned.....

:worthless_without_p

Adding pics is easy, upload to photo hosting account (Google. etc) and paste the link in between the image code like so ....[IMG]yourimagelink.jpg[/IMG]


OR, send the pics to my email [email protected] and I will post them for you.

TexomaPowerboater 10-03-2011 06:14 PM

I don't think they made standardized HIN until 1973. Whatever the HIN is you should be able to verify with cigarette.

Cig19 10-03-2011 07:20 PM

I'll send some pics over to you tomorrow to post.

thanks

Ken

seafordguy 10-03-2011 07:37 PM

Looks nice in your avatar!!

Cig19 10-03-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 78CIG24 (Post 3518628)
Since this only had 2 owners wouldn't the title have the HIN on it that would confirm this is hull #1???

"Believing" and actually being one thing, without documentation it is sort of a stretch ain't it?

No offense inteneded or implied, I am just very interested in actual history of these things AND I do hope it is #1 and has survived, that would be a GOOD THING!!!

Oh also as mentioned.....

:worthless_without_p

Adding pics is easy, upload to photo hosting account (Google. etc) and paste the link in between the image code like so ....[IMG]yourimagelink.jpg[/IMG]


OR, send the pics to my email [email protected] and I will post them for you.

Here are some. Paid the $25.

Cig19 10-03-2011 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3518952)
Here are some. Paid the $25.

and now...........

Cig19 10-03-2011 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3518986)
and now...........

a few more

SS930 10-04-2011 05:49 AM

Sweet!!!! :cool:

kreed 10-04-2011 06:43 AM

VERY nice!

Cig19 10-04-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TexomaPowerboater (Post 3518863)
I don't think they made standardized HIN until 1973. Whatever the HIN is you should be able to verify with cigarette.

HIN #'s not required til 1973. This boat was not in great shape when it was purchased at the show new.

I went out with the original owners daughter and used to drive this boat and took care of it when I was a teen working at the marina it was at in the late 70's. Back then it looked as if the deck was painted by brush and when I dismantled it I noticed some brush touchups. That was from factory like that.....most likely rushed it to get it to the show.

The hull ID number on my registration is the serial # that was stamped on the Chris Craft brass plate on the engine. Who knows, back then how Don Aronow put these boats together. He probably did not plan on selling this at the show and had to come up with a hull number. "Hey, lets use this one....done deal".

I've heard stories that he would buy engines and parts from people he didn't owe money to just to get them built and out the door.
Had to be some great times in N.Miami on 188th st back in those days.

There is no other boat like this one. If you are a Don Aronow fan and want an original; this is the boat for you.

NEVER been in salt water.

wnelles 10-04-2011 04:50 PM

Very nice job on the restore and good luck with the sale.

78CIG24 10-04-2011 06:55 PM

Cig19,

FANFREAKINGTASTIC!!!

Beautiful Restoration!

Been searching for my other piggy bank all day ever since I saw the pics...if I wasn't waist deep in my 24 resto I would be at your front door NOW.

BTW, concerning HINs etc, if would be great if the 19/20 owners could start some sort of "Cig 20 Registry" for these great boats. That would go along way towards having data on the earlier (or even first) versions of those.

Doubt calling Cigarette with your serial number as mentioned before would help you any. I know I called with my 78 24 HIN and they said they had no records back that far, so doubtful they would have any 72 19/20 info. This is why it will probably be up to the owners themselves to create a registry to keep track of these rare boats and verify the surviving boats.

Great Job on saving that one!!

Dave

Tom A. 10-05-2011 11:05 AM

I LOVE that boat! I wish it were in the finances right now.

Between here and the Donzi Registry, you should get it sold. Best of luck!

Rage Powerboats 10-05-2011 11:12 AM

Extremely nice job! Thanks for saving one!!!

SS930 10-05-2011 11:38 AM

I dont even know what I'd do with a 19/20' boat, but I too would love to own it! Really nice...

Cig19 10-05-2011 02:22 PM

Thank you all for the posts!!

I am gonna miss it if it does sell. I know its a lot of money and happy no one has broke my b*lls, but there is not another like it and it needs nothing.

Ken

MrMagloo 10-05-2011 03:52 PM

Very nice. I had a '76 that was very much like this, the same black deck, and sides, with the traditional raised engine hatch, black interior with red, orange and yellow piping that matched the exterior graphics. However, it had a TRS with a 406 I built. Gosh, I miss that boat. I'm still praying for the day I stumble on it again somewhere! Nice job!!

cuposterchild 10-05-2011 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3520427)
Thank you all for the posts!!

I am gonna miss it if it does sell. I know its a lot of money and happy no one has broke my b*lls, but there is not another like it and it needs nothing.

Ken

Don't think it is a lot of money for what it is. Besides the compliment below speaks volumes! Good luck! Boat is truly an exceptional resto. And you should be very proud of the work

"Phil Lipshutz spent some time with us admiring the boat at the 20 cig run a few years ago . He complemented our work an really loved the old boat"

mikefili 10-08-2011 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3517772)
for sale

1972 cigarette racing team 19
a true piece of history from thunderboat row on 188th and don aronow and his design team at cigarette racing .




power and mechanicals

the boat was fully restored in 2004 with originality and reliabilty in
mind. the boat is powered by the original motor a chris craft chevy LT1
corvette 350 ci engine mated to a volvo penta aqua matic 270 outdrive.
then original color scheme of black and yellow was updated from gel to
paint. awlcraft 2000 jet black with awlcraft yellow stripes. the
standard teak stripe and wood work was upgraded to marine mahogany with
a few coats of varnish. the original chris craft exhaust setup and raw
water system were removed and upgraded to stainless marine exhaust with
a cross over cooling system. these upgrades gave some performance
enhancements with a weight reduction and allowing the motor to breathe
better. the original risers are available and will go with the sale of
the boat. the wiring and electrical harness was replaced. the motor has
new edelbrock aluminum heads increasing the horsepower to about 350hp.
the boat will also come with a custom made black tandem bunk trailer
made by performance trailers of warrensberg ny. the boat has a 23 solas
prop and will run high 50's just to 60 mph. you will not find a better
riding 19 foot boat out there.

history

this is a 2 owner boat which has lived it's entire live on greenwood
lake ny. 1972 was the first year for the cig 19, it would later be named
the 20. there was no change in length but do to uscg regulations at the
time for floatation foam in 19 foot and under, the boat was called a 20
in 1973. the original owner purchased the boat at the 1972 ny boat show
which was held in dec of 1971 at the nyc coliseum.i believe this to be
cig 19 hull number one. the boat and motor were built in fall of 1971 a
year before the uscg made stamping hull identification numbers on the
right side of the transom mandatory. during the restoration some unique
facts have been uncovered on the boat. when the original front buckets
seats handwritten marking cig 19 were found . these were written by the
workers at bilt-rite interiors who did all of the interiors for the
early donzi and cigs from 188th st. when the heads were replaced it was
also noted that certain design features and materials that were used
were only made in the 1971 version of that motor. this is a true piece
of history that can be used and enjoyed

There is nothing this boat needs. It has sat on a lift since its restoration and is immaculate.

I have been to a few gatherings and poker runs and feel great when people walk past a 300K boat and walk up to mine to see what it is. This is the one to own if you want a 20 that has been restored to original with some modern day updates.

I am asking 30K or best offer. (includes $3500 trailer)


Ken

Wow, beautifully done, yes it was hull nunber one if I remember right, and yes it was bought by Dick Dubrow at the NY show from Don himself. If I remember correctly he had a daughter named Karen, really beautiful girl, maybe you still have her number in the paperwork. Yes that boat is the real deal and one of the most complete "barn finds" ever. Awesome job saving such an important piece of history.
Michael

Cig19 10-10-2011 09:02 AM

Michael....wow. You have quite a memory. Dick Dubrow did say he bought if from Don himself. He lived in Queens and had a summer house in Greenwood Lake, NY. I went out with his daughter Karen in the late 70's and used the boat all the time.

Funny how it came into my posession 20+ years later and is still on Greenwood Lake the past 40 years (20 of them in storage).

Do you have any written information on this boat such as a bill of sale or build sheet. Anything would be greatly appreciated.

Great hearing from you and your recollection of the Dubrow's.

Ken

cosmic12 10-10-2011 06:31 PM

I have seen this boat on Lake George and believe me it is beyound beautiful, I walked back to the docks alot just to look at it and drool. It is a work of art.
Oh how I wish I could.

Cig19 10-20-2011 01:34 PM

Just listed on ebay last nite. Was a little surprised how quickly I got a bite:evilb:

This is a real head turner.....its someone else's turn to enjoy this boat.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1972-...item336d57bb52

BLee 10-21-2011 11:42 AM

That's the best one in classic form that I've seen out there. Good luck with the sale, & I hope it goes to a good owner.

78CIG24 10-21-2011 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by BLee (Post 3533158)
That's the best one in classic form that I've seen out there. Good luck with the sale, & I hope it goes to a good owner.

Agree 100% !

mattyboy 10-24-2011 09:13 AM

little video, sorry but the camera phone audio just doesn't do the motor justice it sounds awesome in person.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xGJ2lV17UQ

FIXX 10-25-2011 02:43 PM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by MrMagloo (Post 3520473)
Very nice. I had a '76 that was very much like this, the same black deck, and sides, with the traditional raised engine hatch, black interior with red, orange and yellow piping that matched the exterior graphics. However, it had a TRS with a 406 I built. Gosh, I miss that boat. I'm still praying for the day I stumble on it again somewhere! Nice job!!

are you rick???? the same boat that antone blew the engine on??

MrMagloo 10-25-2011 11:48 PM


Originally Posted by mrfixxall (Post 3536383)
are you rick???? the same boat that antone blew the engine on??

Nope, I'm the guy who built that boat, and made the mistake of selling it to those bozo's who I understand destroyed it.

FIXX 10-26-2011 02:03 AM

fixx
 

Originally Posted by MrMagloo (Post 3536746)
Nope, I'm the guy who built that boat, and made the mistake of selling it to those bozo's who I understand destroyed it.

sent you a pm,,i knew where it was last!

Cig19 11-18-2011 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3517772)
for sale

1972 cigarette racing team 19
a true piece of history from thunderboat row on 188th and don aronow and his design team at cigarette racing .




power and mechanicals

the boat was fully restored in 2004 with originality and reliabilty in
mind. the boat is powered by the original motor a chris craft chevy LT1
corvette 350 ci engine mated to a volvo penta aqua matic 270 outdrive.
then original color scheme of black and yellow was updated from gel to
paint. awlcraft 2000 jet black with awlcraft yellow stripes. the
standard teak stripe and wood work was upgraded to marine mahogany with
a few coats of varnish. the original chris craft exhaust setup and raw
water system were removed and upgraded to stainless marine exhaust with
a cross over cooling system. these upgrades gave some performance
enhancements with a weight reduction and allowing the motor to breathe
better. the original risers are available and will go with the sale of
the boat. the wiring and electrical harness was replaced. the motor has
new edelbrock aluminum heads increasing the horsepower to about 350hp.
the boat will also come with a custom made black tandem bunk trailer
made by performance trailers of warrensberg ny. the boat has a 23 solas
prop and will run high 50's just to 60 mph. you will not find a better
riding 19 foot boat out there.

history

this is a 2 owner boat which has lived it's entire live on greenwood
lake ny. 1972 was the first year for the cig 19, it would later be named
the 20. there was no change in length but do to uscg regulations at the
time for floatation foam in 19 foot and under, the boat was called a 20
in 1973. the original owner purchased the boat at the 1972 ny boat show
which was held in dec of 1971 at the nyc coliseum.i believe this to be
cig 19 hull number one. the boat and motor were built in fall of 1971 a
year before the uscg made stamping hull identification numbers on the
right side of the transom mandatory. during the restoration some unique
facts have been uncovered on the boat. when the original front buckets
seats handwritten marking cig 19 were found . these were written by the
workers at bilt-rite interiors who did all of the interiors for the
early donzi and cigs from 188th st. when the heads were replaced it was
also noted that certain design features and materials that were used
were only made in the 1971 version of that motor. this is a true piece
of history that can be used and enjoyed

There is nothing this boat needs. It has sat on a lift since its restoration and is immaculate.

I have been to a few gatherings and poker runs and feel great when people walk past a 300K boat and walk up to mine to see what it is. This is the one to own if you want a 20 that has been restored to original with some modern day updates.

I am asking 30K or best offer. (includes $3500 trailer)


Ken

Here it is again. 28K takes it.

littledcsrodshop 11-18-2011 11:41 PM

Way cool ride !!! ;)

blacktruck 09-16-2017 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Cig19 (Post 3517772)
for sale

1972 cigarette racing team 19
a true piece of history from thunderboat row on 188th and don aronow and his design team at cigarette racing .

I am asking 30K or best offer. (includes $3500 trailer)


Ken

Did someone on the forum buy this boat? I'd be curious to hear where it went and if the new owner had thought about selling.

Holy Smokes 09-16-2017 03:45 PM

Lipschutz bought it and gave it to Skip. Not sure where it went from there.

blacktruck 09-16-2017 11:53 PM


Originally Posted by Holy Smokes (Post 4582737)
Lipschutz bought it and gave it to Skip. Not sure where it went from there.

Thanks man


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