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24' Cigarette For Sale
I was on Boat Trader on line and seen this 24" Cigarette for sale. But is it real ? Kind looks like a Banana?
http://www.boattrader.com/listing/19...board-99959297 |
cool boat
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Some things look like a real 24, and some don't. The windshield is different than any I have ever seen, and the top deck is quite different, but being an outboard that makes sense. I would want to see a HIN number.
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Other than the fact it's an outboard, it looks like a real Cigarette. Definately not a Banana. I've got the factory brochures for the 24 Cig and just compared the dash layout, cockpit has that flat legde on the outer sides. Looks to be in decent shape. Too bad it's an outboard.
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Nice ride, but only 60 with twin 225's?
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The windshield doesn't look like any 24 Cigarette I have seen. 60 with with twin 225 that seems a liitle on the slow side.
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Greatlaker................
Where in lapeer are you hidding a 20ft cig, and a 32 OE? I would love to BS boats with a local guy. |
That is not a Banana for sure.
As far as the windshield, American Marine of Ft Laud made the windshields for both Cigarette and Banana and was very innovative with whatever the customer wanted, high, low, stretched, short, etc. It looks like an American Marine windshield, I would say that this is a Cigarette for sure. The first 24 outboard was built for Doc Magoon. The whole 24 story is on the BBC website, under the products section...History of 24. www.bananaboatco.com |
Thanks Charlie Thats A great website I have been on it a few times Great Info. Did I read that you are going to be building boat again?
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Hay slpcamaross97 I live out on Holloway Reservoir. Ya I never seen your 28 Pantera around the area. That Checkmate your looking at looks Nice. I have a 25 Ocean Express with O/B For Sale
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Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3600959)
Some things look like a real 24, and some don't. The windshield is different than any I have ever seen, and the top deck is quite different, but being an outboard that makes sense. I would want to see a HIN number.
Agree windshield is probably made by American, but they made windshields for lots of boats, certainly a lot more boats than the handful of 24s that were made with the fauceted style windshield. Cockpit is also completely different and appears to be wider than the normal 24. There are also no raised humps running the length of the cockpit sides on the normal 24, that was more of a CIG 20 design style during that era. Of course, if it is really "1 of 2" there is no telling what was done completely differently on a custom 1 of 2 Outboard version, compared to the normal 24 of that era. Agree about the HIN, either it starts with "CRT", or it doesn't, simple as that. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0z.../cig24_jpg.jpg http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-so...252520back.JPG |
Originally Posted by 78CIG24
(Post 3601934)
About the only thing that looks like a "normal" 24 of that era is the hull IMHO..top deck is certainly way different, so is the dash layout and style of that vintage. At first glance similar, but looking more closely not so much.
Agree windshield is probably made by American, but they made windshields for lots of boats, certainly a lot more boats than the handful of 24s that were made with the fauceted style windshield. Cockpit is also completely different and appears to be wider than the normal 24. There are also no raised humps running the length of the cockpit sides on the normal 24, that was more of a CIG 20 design style during that era. Of course, if it is really "1 of 2" there is no telling what was done completely differently on a custom 1 of 2 Outboard version, compared to the normal 24 of that era. Agree about the HIN, either it starts with "CRT", or it doesn't, simple as that. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0z.../cig24_jpg.jpg http://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-so...252520back.JPG I have regained "custody" of my old 24. Not sure what's ultimately going to happen to it but it's back in my barn for now :) |
Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3602206)
How's Lap Dancer coming along?
I have regained "custody" of my old 24. Not sure what's ultimately going to happen to it but it's back in my barn for now :) To save time I decided to stick with the "Lap Dancer" paint job for now, it is in too good of condition to change it. Plus it has grown on me a little :-) I just changed up the side graphics with the script style CRT logos. Still need to get the "A-46" APBA numbers remade exactly as they were when it raced. Once those are back on the sides, the exterior is done ...at least for now. However, the whole interior and bilge is completely taken apart including removal of ALL the old wiring from bow to stern. I am also changing up the dash and instruments completely from what it was. Since I found the original 24 Dash intact underneath the aluminum race dash, it was tough to make a decision which way to go with it. I recently settled on a combination of the old original dash showing, but with a full 2-man race gauge setup built into the backside of the original windshield with aluminum panels. If you recall all the glass was removed from the windshield and replaced with aluminum panels using the original frame for racing. I am leaving it like that and putting in vertical gauge panels from the top of the windshield frame down to the top flat part of the old dash. Already have 80% of the transom hardware removed and resealed, so that is almost done. Luckily there has been no rot, etc anywhere to be found. Still blows my mind that this old 78 hull is still solid as a rock! Will send you some pics when I get closer. BTW, that is cool you have your 24 back in hand! I was looking at the pics of it earlier today, what a great boat!! Cheers, Dave |
I like the gauge and dash idea! Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
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Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3602279)
I like the gauge and dash idea! Looking forward to seeing some pictures.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...es/42035_9.jpg Back to the Outboard 24, anyone ever get the HIN from it? I have seen it or sale in many places for a while now, but none has listed the HIN #. I think it is a cool boat, especially for an outboard, and it would be very cool if it is actually 1 of 2 CIG 24 outboards built. |
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The boat certainly appears to be an early Cig 24. The indention in the deck is where the older boats had teak or mahogany. 3/8" recess. If you look close at the pics --- it appears the original teak is still running down the top of the gunnels. The earlier 24 boats were wider. I have one of the wood inlaid 24's. Outboards????? Maybe they did. I can't answer that one.
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Originally Posted by Hotboat1
(Post 3602479)
The boat certainly appears to be an early Cig 24. The indention in the deck is where the older boats had teak or mahogany. 3/8" recess. If you look close at the pics --- it appears the original teak is still running down the top of the gunnels. The earlier 24 boats were wider. I have one of the wood inlaid 24's. Outboards????? Maybe they did. I can't answer that one.
Do you have any idea what year they switched from the earlier teak inlaid decks to the smooth flat versions? There are so few 24s to compare to, who knows when they started and stopped certain design elements..or if it depended on the mood or custom order of that build. Below are some of the 24s I know off with the smooth deck and the unique "faceted" style Windshield. I haven't seen any of the teak deck versions with that style windshield yet. I am guessing these 2 design chances were made around the same time???? Seems like for sure the 77 thru 81 24s had the faceted windshield and the smooth flat decks. A 77 that belongs to Russ in TN? http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GP...%2520cleat.JPG http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-CE...e%2520line.JPG My 78.. http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-It...01_578-800.jpg ..and RT930Turbo's (Artie's) 81...what a great restoration!!! http://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5w...1280414275.jpg |
If anyone is serious, I am not to far away to take an initial look...
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Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3602206)
I have regained "custody" of my old 24. Not sure what's ultimately going to happen to it but it's back in my barn for now :)
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I sold the boat to a very good friend who suddenly passed away on the 4th of July. :( His wife is not sure what to do with the boat as boating was a big thing for both of them. So it's back in my hands for safe keeping until she figures out what she wants to do. He was on oso a little bit under RO24Cigarette... His dad was part owner of the orange "Outrageous" Sutphen from way back in it's racing days. The Cig was his first offshore boat, and he was really loving it.
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wow... sad, and sorry to hear that.
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Originally Posted by RT930turbo
(Post 3602951)
I sold the boat to a very good friend who suddenly passed away on the 4th of July. :( His wife is not sure what to do with the boat as boating was a big thing for both of them. So it's back in my hands for safe keeping until she figures out what she wants to do. He was on oso a little bit under RO24Cigarette... His dad was part owner of the orange "Outrageous" Sutphen from way back in it's racing days. The Cig was his first offshore boat, and he was really loving it.
Jr, |
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