Interest in smaller basic cig CC?
 

Say take the vice hull add a bracket with twin verado 275s
Center con and small cuddy

Voila a new 33 cafe open

Would anyone buy? What would the price point need to be?

Would it detract from cigarettes current line up of 3 CCs? 38,39,42:food-smiley-007:

I think you mistyped something above^
It says, 38,39,42. There was never a 38 open Cig. Top Gun 39' CC, Top Fish 39' open or closed bow, and the 42 huntress.

I'm a big fan of the 33 oceanhawks, 60+ with twin OB's is a real accomplishment for a boat that big. I know cig used oceanhawks for their 33 cafe open.

The 31 decathlon was pretty cool too.

yeah it would have to be under $200K with power in order to sell. heres a brand new statement for $189K

http://www.yachtworld.com/boats/2012.../United-States

I agree with 302Sport.

New Powerplay 33' Sportfish $189K +/-
Mercury/Yamaha/Evinrude/Suzuki all available.

[email protected]

So at 199,999.00 we got a winner?

Just thinking out loud

TS vice hull with bracket and 350 verados would be nice

Agreed....

Been thinking this since the top fish came out

Wonder what Skip would think?

Skip would think that you get him 5+ deposits and he will have them ready for Summer. :daz:

Same as I told you already. Build it Dreamer.

+1, with extended cockpit and full cabin (but no nead to get fancy with it).

Active Thunder was ahead of the game when they launched the 33 AT with Twin OB that ran close to 70. Thats where I would put my money.

I think if gas prices go through the roof, the only BBC based type of boat that will hold decent value are the ones with NA EFI motors. It just takes the fun out of it when you run hard for an hour and burn $1000 worth of fuel......

so say twin 300 verados

30 hull with bracket

both the CC and sport deck run virtually the same... speed ride and handling

why would u want a sport deck instead of a more user friendly CC?
why close off half the useful space of the boat?

Because I live in TX where it gets really hot. Like 100+ for months. If they can extend the cockpit and still squeeze in a generator with AC it would suit my needs.......not that I could afford a new boat right now. Where we boat it gets so hot that heat exhaustion is a real concern not just for older folks but kids too. Something like this would allow you to escape the heat and stay on the water longer. It would also allow you to overnight rather confortably.........again maximizing time on the water. It could also work well for northen boaters......as a cabin boat would be more confortable to run in cold weather than an open CC. I repectfully disagree that CC are more user friendly...........it all depends on what you want to use it for. Now if you plan on fishing all day or doing short day trips with large groups it would definitely be more user friendly, but if you want to overnight with family or just get out of the heat your screwed.

There's really no need to choose between an open or closed deck. You can have a CC with a generous cabin at 33ft, but not 30ft. Concept, sonic and a few others all coming out with CC under 36ft with good sized cabins. My favorite is the 33 oceanhawk, but they haven't built one in a while.

I think we as a boating community should push builders to give more real options, picking colors and drivetrain does not count.

If I was to build this 30ft Cig it would have three different decks:
1) One for sterndrive application; with cabin
2) One with an open cockpit and OB's; build it with the option of a CC or Side consoles. It must have a self bailing cockpit, no exceptions.
3) One with a cabin for OB applications with extended cockpit. Give the customer the option of extending the cockpit or leaving it as is.

There is a lot of competition in that category.

Answer to one of my questions

Why would cig bother

30 foot boat with Verados is an asssssss heavy boat

As much as I'd love, love, love to see it....

It only cost a little bit more to build it a little bigger and be able to charge a LOT more.

30' at $200K is $6667/foot
35' at $300K is $8571/foot

Now how much extra is that 5' really costing? At the 30' price of $6667/foot it would cost an extra $33,335 which leaves $66,665 on the table.

Here are a few ideas I have for my next CC:

Bow and transom seats in most CC's don't have enough angle. 90 degrees gives more floor space and leg room but aren't comfortable. Lay them back some to make them comfortable.

Some sort of pole hole that a table post can go in at the bow so you can sit in the bow seats and have a table. I'm picturing like a Foruma 330SS cabin up front, table can be there or lower and cushions put on it to become a bow sunpad (in Formula becomes the bed). Obviously this pole should extend to become a stripper pole, with a weight limit. Think of it as a seat belt, if a big ol' gal gets on board you have protections in place in case you are about to make a bad move. She breaks the table, you need to break off.

I'm not sure how to explain this one but some sort of roll top door that comes out of the bow. Provides deck space during the day and then roll top can make a cabin at night. Lower the above table and that becomes the bed. I'm thinking hard white plastic but could be like a tent or some thing as well. Some thing simple for those that just need cover for sleeping on the hook. Maybe could do some sort of cover from the bow to the t-top or radar arch. I don't know, haven't refined this idea yet.

Rocket launcher (fishin pole holder) near the transom with some sort of pole coming up to help with boarding. I'm thinking like a ski pole put in it for a visual. Grab handles mounted on the top of the cowlings could help as well. Walk thru transoms are nice but with the bracket lower than the hullsides and the outboard stuff coming from the bracket to the engines I think it would be nice to put things in place to kind of guide people (non-boaters, chicks for the pole, etc).

I know of a 30' CC with Vrod 300's that runs very nice at 82MPH so I don't really agree with the 300's being that assss heavy. IIRC 300 Vrods are around 630LBS which is 110LBS more than a 300XS but remember the XS's have remote oil tanks, remote trim pumps, etc so I wonder what the real difference at the transom really is.

Sorry to semi hijack, I have so many ideas I'd love to see I kind of get going when I think about it..

MM
39 TG CC t300 is 299k

$7667/foot.

So at the 30' price of $6667/foot a 39' would be $264,303 which is leaving $34,697 on the table. Remember at that $6667 price there is profit already built in (assuming this can be done for $199K) so that $35K on the table is 100% gravy on top. This also doesn't include any material discounts that may be tossed in by buying materials in bulk. Why build a 30' and make $50K when you can build a 39' and make $85K. 35% more materials/labor and make 65% more profit- I wish my business worked like that!

I'd love to see a 30' so please don't take it I'm against it by any means.

I'd love to see you get a white one, with a simple green stripe offset running down the middle of the deck, then a a thin green line that starts at the bow, makes a couple WWW zigzags as it gets wider going toward the transom. Green inserts in the Vrods, white interior with green piping, bezels, etc. Then I want you to run it 20 hours and want to sell it for 30% less than your bought it for. I'm calling dibs now!!