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Abyss_Rover 05-21-2012 10:25 AM

Cigarette or fake
 
Hi all,

I might be buying a boat that is quoted as being a 1976 Cigarette. I can't add photos because this says "You may not post attachments".

Any ideas how to get this changed?

Thanks

Peter

CigDaze 05-21-2012 10:51 AM

Either you can purchase a membership, or upload your photos onto any one of the many photo sharing sites (flickr, photobucket, smugmug, picasaweb, etc.) out there and then post the links.

BDiggity 05-21-2012 01:41 PM

Cant you check the HIN?

tcelano 05-22-2012 01:35 AM

Yes, look for a CRT hull number. Have it checked in the federal database by a dealer or USCG rep though, because a clever imposter can easily stamp one on.

The database should be able to produce the current and previous owners, and registration. If stuff isn't matching, that might be a sign of trouble.

Abyss_Rover 05-22-2012 06:05 AM

Thanks for the reply's. The boat is in mainland Spain and I live in one of the islands, so getting numbers etc could take some time.

I have added the photos that I have (small and not good) here

I am hoping to get clearer photos soon and I have asked about the HIN number.

tcelano. How would I go about "Have it checked in the federal database by a dealer or USCG rep" from Spain?

Any suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

Pete

Stormrider 05-22-2012 09:06 AM

I'm not a betting man, but I'd put my $ thats the real deal.
It's a 35 Awesome.

yss 05-22-2012 10:12 AM

Is it a 35 or 33?

Abyss_Rover 05-22-2012 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3693068)
I'm not a betting man, but I'd put my $ thats the real deal.
It's a 35 Awesome.

Thanks Stormrider, As it has Spanish registration, the paperwork is quite in-depth (as with my 36 Falcon Bonito), so when the guy quotes 11 meter (11 m = 36.0892) it should be 36 feet. I found the following information from searches:

In the 70's after Don Aronow had retired from racing, he took his 32 foot boat Cigarette[I] and stretched it to 36..it was over 9 feet wide. This boat was then stretched to a 40 footer.

He had an idea that a narrower boat would be faster, so he designed a 35 foot boat with a 8 foot beam.

He made two models with the same hull. One with a raised deck he called Awesome and one with a flat deck he called Mistress. The boat was actually 35 feet 9 inches. He often said it was the best boat he ever designed, it had just the right balance.

Later in the 70's everyone wanted bigger boats, so he reluctantly stretched it to 37 feet and 6 inches and thus was born the Top Gun.

He still said the 35 was a better boat.


So that could be why it's quoted as 11 meter.

The 550cv mercruisers is a bit confusing though.

Also, as I have not seen any photos of the 70's Awesome, the helm area looks identical to the 28SS.


I have also come across this:

The name Awesome comes from the response that Richie Powers gave to Don after coming back from the ocean test of one of the new 35 foot designs.

The first 35 went to Bob Nordskog and he never really set it up right...he was looking for all out speed rather than an all around fast boat that could handle the ocean too.

Finally Richie Powers set one up as the 35 Dry Martini race boat and took it out for the ocean test. Don was waiting for his reaction to the test and the first thing Richie said when he returned to NE 188th St was.....Awesome.

Don grinned and used the name for this production model boat with the high lift deck.

The other 35 with the flat deck, was known as the Mistress.....the ad read..."Every man should have one

Abyss_Rover 05-23-2012 05:19 AM

Does anyone have photos of the inside of a standard 35 Awesome? Around the helm and other internal photos. Please.

Stormrider 05-23-2012 08:27 AM

Abyss Rover... start a new thread, or do a search for 'awesome'.

EWPE 05-23-2012 12:10 PM

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Here is a photo of the helm of my 1975 Awesome.

Stormrider 05-23-2012 12:25 PM

EWPE, was waiting for you to show up.
I thought a new thread w/ 'awesome' in the title would lure you in.

Abyss_Rover 05-25-2012 01:10 AM


Originally Posted by EWPE (Post 3694156)
Here is a photo of the helm of my 1975 Awesome.

Thanks EWPE, very clear photo.

Pete

EWPE 05-27-2012 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3694161)
EWPE, was waiting for you to show up.
I thought a new thread w/ 'awesome' in the title would lure you in.

You are right an Awesome thread will do it every time.

EWPE 05-27-2012 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Abyss_Rover (Post 3695459)
Thanks EWPE, very clear photo.

Pete

Some additional photos.

Cosanostraracing 05-28-2012 01:13 AM

2005 cig 21'
 
Dear all,

I am looking at this boat and want too know if anyone knows if this is a real cig 21' outboard, or any info on the year builds of the 21' outboard
Thank you in advance
Here is the link and incase ask for password: cig21http://www.cosanostraracing.com/?p=589

outonsafari 05-28-2012 02:40 AM

awesome
 
http://www.powerboatlistings.com/view/8182

the pics he posted looked a little like this one ?

Abyss_Rover 05-28-2012 04:37 AM

Thanks EWPE,

I'm still waiting for better photos of the one I am interested in but from what I can see, it does look very similar to yours.

I have searched a lot but there doesn't appear to be many hits for the Awesome, are these boats as rare as they appear?

Abyss_Rover 06-05-2012 04:39 AM

Update
 
Photos arrived.... I think this confirms what it is. photos here.

Would anyone care to put a value on it? One engine is dead and the other has not run for over 4 years.

Stormrider 06-05-2012 08:47 AM

I'd say in the area of $10,000?
Nice running ones would be in the low 20s, and the one you are looking at needs help.

Abyss_Rover 06-06-2012 04:38 AM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 3702984)
I'd say in the area of $10,000?
Nice running ones would be in the low 20s, and the one you are looking at needs help.

:ernaehrung004:


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