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682gold 07-23-2012 03:00 PM

35 Cafe and 38 Top Gun
 
Ok how fast have we got our older 35 and 38's up too? Non step hull, late 80's early 90's. Considering one and was wondering what kind of speed to expect and what can be obtained.

seafordguy 07-23-2012 07:33 PM

Assume 75mph with 600 HP.

They're much faster on the interstate than the water.

36Envision 07-23-2012 09:50 PM

Unless you have big power, you will get 65-75 tops w/500-600 HP.

RebarBox 07-23-2012 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3737159)
They're much faster on the interstate than the water.

:funnypost:

Unlimited jd 07-23-2012 10:47 PM

87 cafe with 640 a side, trs drives and labbed bravo 1s was going 81,

Wristdoc 07-23-2012 11:03 PM

92 Top Gun, 525 SC's, TRS drives, 70mph at best...

joe27baja 07-24-2012 04:23 AM

90 38 Top Gun with 540 a side and light on fuel.... 68 with the soon to be removed TRS drives

Frequency 07-24-2012 06:16 AM

91 Cafe with 630 Hp through Bravo I's runs 78.

Sea-Dated 07-24-2012 07:21 AM

91 Cafe' with 500's and Bravo's, 70mph.

But a ride like a Lexus....

kennyd 07-24-2012 07:23 AM

as of now 65 with 500 hp a side . BUT during winter it will repowered to about 700 and then i hope 80.

bigfarmer 07-24-2012 07:25 AM

100Mph With 950's in mine .....its for sale in the classifieds too..

kreed 07-24-2012 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by bigfarmer (Post 3737499)
100Mph With 950's in mine .....its for sale in the classifieds too..

Saw that....looks really nice, good luck with sale.

BDiggity 07-24-2012 09:58 AM

91 Cafe, 525's, trs, 71mph (according to phone gps app)

UrbanDisturbance 07-24-2012 10:20 AM

1994 Top Gun, Freshwater, Bravo 1, Labbed Maximus Props, 605hp at 5500rpm. 73 mph was the best with perfect waves, half tank and 2 people. I always could get the boat to 68mph, even fully loaded and 5-6 people on boat. I'm getting Arneson ASD7M surface drives put on now. The boat was suppose to be ready this last March. I'm still waiting. It's been a nightmare!!!

4195 07-24-2012 01:11 PM

My 93 Cafe with 550hp and Bravo's with labbed 26's ran a best of 78mph but ran 75mph every day.

OldSchool 07-24-2012 02:15 PM

Twin 1240's will put a 1988 Top Gun @....112
Twin 770's will put it @ 85 or so

:D;)

EightSecv6 07-24-2012 04:45 PM

I have seen 73 on GPS with my 35' Flat Deck it has Hawk 540/575s in it. That was with 5 on board and half a tank of fuel and one engine a little hurt. With just me on board and a 1/4 tank of fuel, it ran 73 on GPS! :lolhit: Hoping to add 100hp each over the winter so it can run 73 GPS

cigrocket 07-24-2012 04:56 PM

Mine is running in the upper 90's with the new Cobra power (2 hours). Haven't gotten different props since my old engines. Engines aren't broken in yet. Should be 100+. I know that I detuned the engines alot, so all it takes is a different pulley. I only make 7 lbs of boost. The boat is for Sale (not in classifieds). 3A's, Lipship Interior, Drives set up and done at TNT and Huber Trans (40 hrs), Latham, Livorsi, CMI. Search my name for pics.

park35 07-24-2012 06:40 PM

I have 540 aside 600plus a side will run 78 every day in flat water 80 with alittle chop and half tank of gas thru bravo drives and massaged b1 26p props twisted to 27 p

RebarBox 07-24-2012 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by cigrocket (Post 3738046)
Mine is running in the upper 90's with the new Cobra power (2 hours). Haven't gotten different props since my old engines. Engines aren't broken in yet. Should be 100+. I know that I detuned the engines alot, so all it takes is a different pulley. I only make 7 lbs of boost. The boat is for Sale (not in classifieds). 3A's, Lipship Interior, Drives set up and done at TNT and Huber Trans (40 hrs), Latham, Livorsi, CMI. Search my name for pics.

'Cobra' power

Carry Oil Because it Runs All over. :party-smiley-004:

Sorry, couldn't resist. :)

682gold 07-26-2012 03:14 PM

Looking at a 1990 35' Cafe. Nice boat but seems a little high? $67,950 for a 22 year old boat? is that in line?

36Envision 07-26-2012 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 3739716)
Looking at a 1990 35' Cafe. Nice boat but seems a little high? $67,950 for a 22 year old boat? is that in line?

If it is the boat at PBC go look at it. In great shape, great people to work with too. I've been trying to get a buddy of mine to go look at it.

36Envision 07-26-2012 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by 682gold (Post 3739716)
Looking at a 1990 35' Cafe. Nice boat but seems a little high? $67,950 for a 22 year old boat? is that in line?

IMO - Yes, price is in line. You get a nice boat, with updates, newer trailer, etc. Yes, you can find a Cafe cheaper, thing buyers needs to realize (I am guilty, too) is the money you end up putting into a cheaper boat, plus the purchase, typically exceeds the already maintained/updated boats purchase price, plus your time and a$$ pains fixing the cheaper boat.

242LS 07-26-2012 07:18 PM

Here's a 1990 for $50K:

Cafe Racer

BDiggity 07-27-2012 10:09 AM

As an owner, I certainly like that $67k price for a Cafe better than $28k!

682gold 07-27-2012 12:10 PM

Price
 

Originally Posted by BDiggity (Post 3740214)
As an owner, I certainly like that $67k price for a Cafe better than $28k!

Yes I understand that. A friend of mine said a turn key boat is worth that (so did 36Envision). You don't have the hedache of rebuilding engine its already done, paint is already done, interior is already done. PLus if you buy a Cig for $28k what do you have to do to it to bring it where you want it and how much will that cost in time and dollars? Something to be said for turn key.

seafordguy 07-29-2012 01:39 PM

As much as I don't want to say this 67 is kind of high considering what some of the other NICE cafe's on this website have sold for.

Also - That is more than I paid for my 1990 in 2006 - mine had fresh power at the time as welll as all the niceties (MM Strainers, CMI's, Swim Platform, Spare Props, etc.....)

Blackmagic94 03-14-2018 11:42 PM

I ran 59 mph at 4000 rpm on my cafe the first run out and ended up having two hurt motors. 540 hawks with #3s and 28p blades. Should be around 650 hp 548 cid engines now once it’s back together next month and then I’m gonna shoot for mid 70s plus

HOSSMAN 03-15-2018 07:02 AM

2000 35 Top Gun LE (cafe hull). 500 HP's on 26's. 70 any given day. 72 best. We call it the Ron Popiel boat..."Set it and forget about it".

thisistank 03-15-2018 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by Blackmagic94 (Post 4616039)
I ran 59 mph at 4000 rpm on my cafe the first run out and ended up having two hurt motors. 540 hawks with #3s and 28p blades. Should be around 650 hp 548 cid engines now once it’s back together next month and then I’m gonna shoot for mid 70s plus

You should see 73ish. Had 650 HP a side in our gun with 3A's and we were at 75 on a good day. Guns hull is more efficient than Café.

Blackmagic94 03-16-2018 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4616112)
You should see 73ish. Had 650 HP a side in our gun with 3A's and we were at 75 on a good day. Guns hull is more efficient than Café.


what props?

thisistank 03-16-2018 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by Blackmagic94 (Post 4616310)



what props?

For the life of me, I can't remember right now! They were 4 blade cleverer Merc Props that came with the boat. Wasn't banging the rev limiters or running low RPM anything. Easy out the hole, nice and smooth runnin at all speeds. Ran perfect.

CPM 03-16-2018 02:23 PM

1995 Café 502's 177's Bravo drive spinning stock 32's in Havasu upper 90's light 100 on a long shot but has seen it a time or two

Blackmagic94 03-16-2018 02:24 PM

What does upper 90s mean. It’s either a number or not. Lol

CPM 03-16-2018 02:33 PM


Originally Posted by Blackmagic94 (Post 4616340)
What does upper 90s mean. It’s either a number or not. Lol

runs 95 all day long but as every boat owner knows they are a bit all over the place seen 104 at best on GPS

F-2 Speedy 03-16-2018 02:41 PM


Originally Posted by CPM (Post 4616344)
runs 95 all day long but as every boat owner knows they are a bit all over the place seen 104 at best on GPS

Is that km/h ?...:angry-smiley-038:


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