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Original cost of 1986 35 Mistress?
Does anyone know approximately what one of these boats cost when new?
Mine is a 35 540/575 Hawk power, #3 drives etc... |
I often wonder what mine was new... mine came with 330's as far as I know....trs
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Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 3749432)
I often wonder what mine was new... mine came with 330's as far as I know....trs
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Original brochures and price lists that I have in my collection are from August 1, 1984 and state that Cigarette produced two 35's in 1984. One was a 35L with a base list price of $86,800 and a 35S with a base list price of $112,300 both are/were available with an array of optional equipment. Another price list I have from June 8, 1983 shows the 35L at 80,000 and the 35S at 112,000 just to give you an idea of price increase from 83 to 84. You can get an idea of what the increase would be in 1986. The 35L came with 330/TRS and the 35S came with 400/TRS Cyclones.
EightSecv6, Digging further into the price lists the Hawk/#3 package in 1984 was an additional $64,800 |
Originally Posted by RWS Cigarette
(Post 3749466)
Original brochures and price lists that I have in my collection are from August 1, 1984 and state that Cigarette produced two 35's in 1984. One was a 35L with a base list price of $86,800 and a 35S with a base list price of $112,300 both are/were available with an array of optional equipment. Another price list I have from June 8, 1983 shows the 35L at 80,000 and the 35S at 112,000 just to give you an idea of price increase from 83 to 84. You can get an idea of what the increase would be in 1986. The 35L came with 330/TRS and the 35S came with 400/TRS Cyclones.
EightSecv6, Digging further into the price lists the Hawk/#3 package in 1984 was an additional $64,800 |
Neat info, never knew about the different 35's.... S/L versions.....neat!
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using inflation calculator $150k in 1986 is same as 306k in 2012
problem is to buy a similiar boat and power( 35 with 600s and speedys) new today from Cigarette would probably be close to twice that. http://www.dollartimes.com/calculators/inflation.htm/ |
I often wonder which drug dealers owned our old Cigs....
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Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 3750659)
I often wonder which drug dealers owned our old Cigs....
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Does anyone know how many of each model they built per year? I wish there were better records kept. It had to be a limited market $$$$$$$$$ and as much that goes into rigging alone, it must have been a slow process to pump one of these out. I feel as if I have a considerably rare boat with Hawk Power and #3 drives, Stellings, race hatches etc. I know that doesnt make it any more valuable or desirable for the most part because any Cigarette of this vintage is unique.
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$200k definitely wasn't chump change back in the '80s. Interest rates were high, and I'm guessing most of the buyers of Cigs back in the day paid cash. (no, literally suitcases...)
The current market, the lack of financing for old boats, and tough insurance for these old rigs really seem to make them appeal to a small segment of us. Our engines and drives are probably worth double out of the boat compared to what I could sell the rigged boat for, but I like the mistress hull so much I'd buy another that was drilled for speedmasters and in decent shape in a heartbeat. Ps if anyone wonders if the mistress will handle big power and #5 drives, it works great. I beefed up the centerline girder, changed out the forward fuel tank for a bigger one,(up from 60 to 97gal), used extension boxes, and mounted the motors forward on drivelines. Balance is perfect, and you can run almost any speed with very minimal trimming required. |
I was told this week that mistresses are old outdated pos boats that nobody wants.....I would at this point in time rather have my old tird that handles anything I throw at it.... then a newer boat with plastic cabin parts that break... I love the classic lines and paint.. I will probably never get rid of this boat... at least for a long time... she's a great boat!!!!
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Who owned Halk power and when they go out of business, and why?
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Jerry Jacoby (born 1937) a former UIM Offshore Power Boat World Champion (1981) and APBA American Champion (1982).
His first race was in the 1978 Tampa Bay Race, in a 38' Cobra (named 'Beep Beep'). Finishing 3rd in this race, he soon after purchased the 35' Cigarette Anheuser Busch from Rocky Aoki,(this 35' Cigarette had formerly powered Tom Gentry to a World Championship in 1976). Named the 'Ajac Hawk', after his Elmont NY based transmission business, Jacoby finished 3rd in the next race, the Bacardi Trophy Race. In 1979 Jacoby started a hi performance marine engine company, Hawk Marine Power. Hawk Marine Power became the supplier to several of the world's premier offshore racers. In 1981 HMP's engines were in 4 of the 5 class of boats entered in the World's Championship . All four of the boats with Hawk's engines won their class' World Championship. Also in 1979 Jacoby had close friend Don Aronow build him a 37.6 foot Cigarette racer, also named Ajac Hawk; this was the first of the 'Top Gun' line of Cigarette power boats. It was made by putting a 'block' into the 39' Cigarette mold, and fixing the raised bar deck of the 36' wide-beam racer (but with the standard 8' beam of the 35' and 39' models) In 1981 Jacoby, with his 37.6 Cigarette, Ajac Hawk, went on to win the World's Championship in Key West. Ajac Hawk (later renamed Cigarette Hawk in 1982, after he purchased the Cigarette Boat company from Don Aronow) and Brut Faberge in 1983). Then in 1982, after following his World Championship win the previous season, Jacoby won the Bacardi Trophy Race and finished the 1982 season leading in points and became the USA National champion. In 1983 Faberge became Jacoby's sponsor and the Cigarette Hawk was renamed, Super Brut. |
Thanks for the history lesson! I recently tore into one of my engines and on the deck where a standard engine code would be on a Chevy, it is clearly stamped MADE IN USA HMP 860305 S 540 B. Half ass translate that to Hawk Marine Power3/5/86 starboard 540 cid and maybe the B was a code for the HP rating????
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Originally Posted by RWS Cigarette
(Post 3751330)
Jerry Jacoby (born 1937) a former UIM Offshore Power Boat World Champion (1981) and APBA American Champion (1982).
His first race was in the 1978 Tampa Bay Race, in a 38' Cobra (named 'Beep Beep'). Finishing 3rd in this race, he soon after purchased the 35' Cigarette Anheuser Busch from Rocky Aoki,(this 35' Cigarette had formerly powered Tom Gentry to a World Championship in 1976). Named the 'Ajac Hawk', after his Elmont NY based transmission business, Jacoby finished 3rd in the next race, the Bacardi Trophy Race. In 1979 Jacoby started a hi performance marine engine company, Hawk Marine Power. Hawk Marine Power became the supplier to several of the world's premier offshore racers. In 1981 HMP's engines were in 4 of the 5 class of boats entered in the World's Championship . All four of the boats with Hawk's engines won their class' World Championship. Also in 1979 Jacoby had close friend Don Aronow build him a 37.6 foot Cigarette racer, also named Ajac Hawk; this was the first of the 'Top Gun' line of Cigarette power boats. It was made by putting a 'block' into the 39' Cigarette mold, and fixing the raised bar deck of the 36' wide-beam racer (but with the standard 8' beam of the 35' and 39' models) In 1981 Jacoby, with his 37.6 Cigarette, Ajac Hawk, went on to win the World's Championship in Key West. Ajac Hawk (later renamed Cigarette Hawk in 1982, after he purchased the Cigarette Boat company from Don Aronow) and Brut Faberge in 1983). Then in 1982, after following his World Championship win the previous season, Jacoby won the Bacardi Trophy Race and finished the 1982 season leading in points and became the USA National champion. In 1983 Faberge became Jacoby's sponsor and the Cigarette Hawk was renamed, Super Brut. |
Full force, who would tell you that? Anyway you guys with the misstress's have some sweet looking boats.
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Originally Posted by bigboat28
(Post 3752462)
Full force, who would tell you that? Anyway you guys with the misstress's have some sweet looking boats.
In the end it would all be about whats on the boat, AC, TRS/bravo how much fuel is in it and such... My buddys has a cafe and I went off what he told me about them over the mistress... his brother had a mistress... I will try to weigh mine one day... fuel can make a hug difference holding 200 gallons or holding 50 gallons... 7lb per gallon adds up... |
Yes, there is nothing light in the Mistress. I have the cockpit taken apart to re-do the floor covering. It's all 3/4" marine ply. I can vault off the ladder over the gunwale into the cockpit with nary a quiver from the deck.
Foredeck, even on my 1979 hull, is totally stiff, no matter where you walk, and no squishiness like I've seen on other boats. |
would anyone by chance have original brochures or order forms they could post?
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Was just going to post the images above. That is the brochure I have..
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