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ChineWalker 12-11-2012 09:02 PM

First year Cafe questions
 
Happy Holidays fellas; I stopped at Ocean Performance today and looked at an 86 Cafe w Chris. It's got fresh (6hrs) 540 natural tall decks, fresh trannys and solid SSM IIIs on it. Shes got original gelcoat, and all in all through discussion (no survey yet) seems to be a decent 1st boat. Question: what to look for on a first year cafe? Did they have any of the tab/stringer issues the flat decks and early guns suffered from and or did they have any adverse driveability issues ie porpoising, stern lift, wash out? What would you consider a fair asking price? Thanks guys?

RebarBox 12-12-2012 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by ChineWalker (Post 3830393)
Happy Holidays fellas; I stopped at Ocean Performance today and looked at an 86 Cafe w Chris. It's got fresh (6hrs) 540 natural tall decks, fresh trannys and solid SSM IIIs on it. Shes got original gelcoat, and all in all through discussion (no survey yet) seems to be a decent 1st boat. Question: what to look for on a first year cafe? Did they have any of the tab/stringer issues the flat decks and early guns suffered from and or did they have any adverse driveability issues ie porpoising, stern lift, wash out? What would you consider a fair asking price? Thanks guys?

With the III's you will still porpoise a little, but not as much as the TRS's. Either way, you just learn to adjust. Some early Cafe's had a notched transom - i believe that plays a part as well.

I'm glad to see it's a gelcoat boat - at least you get to see any stress cracking.

Good Luck!

Unlimited jd 12-12-2012 09:23 AM

I believe it was 3 late cafes that had the notch. Chris is probably the most knowledgable cigarette expert you will find in the area. If he tells you anything about that boat bet your life on it, there's no bs involved to make the boat seem better or make him look smarter.
He can tell you exactly what happened when they notched a cafe, I believe he begged the guys at cig not to do it.
I've ridden in a trs cafe and a trs top gun, in calm water the gun porpoises more. Wasn't really noticeable in the cafe.

kreed 12-12-2012 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3830618)
Kevin is probably the most knowledgable cigarette expert you will find in the area.

Thanks Jamie....

I've ridden in a trs cafe and a trs top gun, in calm water the gun porpoises more.

I resent this last remark! :lolhit:

kreed 12-12-2012 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3830618)
I believe it was 3 late cafes that had the notch. Chris is probably the most knowledgable cigarette expert you will find in the area. If he tells you anything about that boat bet your life on it, there's no bs involved to make the boat seem better or make him look smarter.
He can tell you exactly what happened when they notched a cafe, I believe he begged the guys at cig not to do it.
I've ridden in a trs cafe and a trs top gun, in calm water the gun porpoises more. Wasn't really noticeable in the cafe.

I agree, Chris forgot more about Cigarette than we will ever know. Hes a straight shooter and a pleasure to deal with. Good luck with the Cafe....Ive seen it in the storage building and it looks like a sweet ride!

seafordguy 12-12-2012 12:40 PM

Check for moisture around the Tabs. The Jig wasn't accurate in a few early boats and caused some issues.

I thought it was EARLY Cafe's with the Notch, but I could be wrong.

Not sure on what the boat looksl like but if it's got a trailer I'd say 35-40 depending on how ORIGINAL it is.....

Unlimited jd 12-12-2012 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by kreed (Post 3830636)
I resent this last remark! :lolhit:

Well let the pride and 1 or 2 mph go and drop the damn tabs!
:eekdrop:

kreed 12-12-2012 04:31 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3830736)
Well let the pride and 1 or 2 mph go and drop the damn tabs!
:eekdrop:

I can't....:lolhit:

MILD THUNDER 12-12-2012 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 3830736)
Well let the pride and 1 or 2 mph go and drop the damn tabs!
:eekdrop:

Or stop *****footin it and nail the dam throttles :evilb:

Full Force 12-12-2012 05:30 PM

Tabs? who uses them???


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