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UrbanDisturbance 07-26-2013 02:07 PM

1994 with Arneson ASD7M
 
After a long wait, it's finally ready......I think!

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.n...63238389_o.jpg

Jason3603 07-26-2013 03:04 PM

Looks good! I am curious to see what the results are. I am about to pull the trigger with installing them on a straight bottom Black Thunder. Did you keep HP the same or did you upgrade HP? Again looks good enjoy.

36Envision 07-26-2013 03:32 PM

Looks good. Keep us in the loop on performance #'s.

jeff32 07-26-2013 04:45 PM

curious to see! apparently 10 mph faster usually!

seafordguy 07-26-2013 09:16 PM

:eekdrop:

Croozin2 07-27-2013 07:51 AM

Hell, just visual impact alone has to be worth the money!!! LOL!!

Kidding aside, looks badass and very interested to see the perf numbers.

Fischan 07-27-2013 08:01 AM

That is a thing of beauty! Too bad the pull start cord already fell apart on the port side. :party-smiley-004:

offshorexcursion 07-27-2013 12:06 PM

WOW! Now that looks BADAZZ! Super happy for you! Looking forward to hearing the great results!

seafordguy 07-27-2013 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by Fischan (Post 3965938)
That is a thing of beauty! Too bad the pull start cord already fell apart on the port side. :party-smiley-004:

I think that's his anchor line

Zero Patience 07-28-2013 07:38 AM

Very cool, did not have to fill the notch I guess. What prop diameter and pitch?

Rik 07-28-2013 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by Zero Patience (Post 3966391)
Very cool, did not have to fill the notch I guess. What prop diameter and pitch?

There never is a notch issue on a normal side by side application. The notch ends where the drive center line is (34.5" to 35") so that is not an issue. Now on a stagger, which no 38' Cigarette Top Guns are rigged as, the notch does not have to be completely filled in. Depending upon the notch, not every boat has the exact same size one, the area where the standoff boxes mount only requires a 2-3" thick filler panel so that the drives can be mounted at the correct height and the panel is only as wide as the standoff box itself.

UrbanDisturbance 07-29-2013 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 3966135)
I think that's his anchor line

That is rope to hold my bunks. Every single board is tied with rope. I need to redo my boards with recessed lag bolts. Been too busy with everything else to worry about that. It works for now.

UrbanDisturbance 07-29-2013 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Zero Patience (Post 3966391)
Very cool, did not have to fill the notch I guess. What prop diameter and pitch?

Herring 18 Inch diamater, 28 Pitch, 5 blades. 502 Dart Block (509 cubic inch), 250 b&m blowers that produce 605hp at 5500 rpm engines. I did not change power during the conversion. I am a little over pitched. I am only getting 5200rpm in smooth water in a river. Don't know top speed yet. I am hoping when I get into perfect choppy conditions, that my RPM will go up. I wish I had some 900+hp engines.

mmb 07-29-2013 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanDisturbance (Post 3966856)
I am only getting 5200rpm in smooth water in a river. Don't know top speed yet. I am hoping when I get into perfect choppy conditions, that my RPM will go up.

It will go up! Mine only hits 52-5300 on a flat lake.... When it's in chop they go 6000+

12meter joe 07-29-2013 02:22 PM

How is it getting on plane?

Unlimited jd 07-29-2013 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by Rik (Post 3966722)
There never is a notch issue on a normal side by side application. The notch ends where the drive center line is (34.5" to 35") so that is not an issue. Now on a stagger, which no 38' Cigarette Top Guns are rigged as, the notch does not have to be completely filled in. Depending upon the notch, not every boat has the exact same size one, the area where the standoff boxes mount only requires a 2-3" thick filler panel so that the drives can be mounted at the correct height and the panel is only as wide as the standoff box itself.

Don't forget the 5 original 90mph boats!

UrbanDisturbance 07-30-2013 06:50 AM


Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 3967079)
How is it getting on plane?

At 1st I had some 15.5 - 16.0 inch diameter 4 blade 30 pitch. Very hard to get on plane with those props. They are for sale if anyone wants them. Getting on plane with the 18 inch Diameter 5 blades is not a problem. You put the drives and tabs down. Hit 3500rpm, after about 6 seconds the nose is down, trim up the drives 1st. Then trim up your tabs second. That seems to work best for me. At 1st, I was trimming up the drives and tabs at the same time. You can do it that way, but I never could be consistant on getting on plane fast. It's all timing. I prefer not to pull back on the throttle from 3500rpm until my drives are level and tabs are up. It takes a little practice.

SS930 07-30-2013 07:58 AM

Looks great! Congrats, I'm glad to see you finally pulled the trigger on this conversion!

How are your numbers so far (on flat river water) compared to pre-conversion?

UrbanDisturbance 07-30-2013 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by Zero Patience (Post 3966391)
Very cool, did not have to fill the notch I guess. What prop diameter and pitch?

The notch did not have to be filled in, but we did lower the engines, which in turn made the engines move forward because the transom is not strait. I had this done to meet Arneson drop box and bottom of hull requirements or suggestions. I did not just want ot slap this on without it being perfect. It's a lot of work. Even some glass work was required inside the engine compartment. Custom extensions for exhaust. New motor mounts. Sea strainers. Pop off valves. New Oil Coolers, Power steering coolers, Dual Hydraulic steering, Helm modifications for power steerings, hoses, two new rebuilt motors. I could write a book about it. One year and 7 months of waiting, and it is finally finished. Still have some gauges that are not working. So.....it's not done 100% yet.

12meter joe 07-30-2013 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanDisturbance (Post 3967510)
At 1st I had some 15.5 - 16.0 inch diameter 4 blade 30 pitch. Very hard to get on plane with those props. They are for sale if anyone wants them. Getting on plane with the 18 inch Diameter 5 blades is not a problem. You put the drives and tabs down. Hit 3500rpm, after about 6 seconds the nose is down, trim up the drives 1st. Then trim up your tabs second. That seems to work best for me. At 1st, I was trimming up the drives and tabs at the same time. You can do it that way, but I never could be consistant on getting on plane fast. It's all timing. I prefer not to pull back on the throttle from 3500rpm until my drives are level and tabs are up. It takes a little practice.

Nice. Hope it runs as good as it looks!

hogie roll 07-31-2013 07:22 PM

Awesome! I want one!

UrbanDisturbance 08-01-2013 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by korvetkeith (Post 3968674)
Awesome! I want one!

Well......believe it or not. We are thinking about selling it this winter and getting a 24 or 28 foot Skater with twin outboards. Something my wife can start and drive. The older I am getting, I am starting to want things that are easy. I am getting tired of doing everything every time we go out in the boat. My wife can't even back up a trailer.

mmb 08-01-2013 10:35 AM

I thought about wanting a smaller boat again too..... Till I went for a ride in one and it beat the sh!t out of me lol

Hope you at least enjoy those Arnesons for a bit first!!

UrbanDisturbance 08-01-2013 11:02 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 3969035)
I thought about wanting a smaller boat again too..... Till I went for a ride in one and it beat the sh!t out of me lol

Hope you at least enjoy those Arnesons for a bit first!!

All next week. On vacation with boat at the freshweater lake Sam Rayburn. Bringing a GoPro Camera as well.

hogie roll 08-01-2013 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by UrbanDisturbance (Post 3968899)
Well......believe it or not. We are thinking about selling it this winter and getting a 24 or 28 foot Skater with twin outboards. Something my wife can start and drive. The older I am getting, I am starting to want things that are easy. I am getting tired of doing everything every time we go out in the boat. My wife can't even back up a trailer.

Get a new one

Zero Patience 08-01-2013 08:33 PM

Get both:whistle: it's fun...


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