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jmackin 07-10-2014 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4150748)
Whoe!! a 5000EFI`s !? you must have meant 740mph.

500's sorry. Lol

Sick Stinger 07-10-2014 09:24 AM

Speed gains of a step but te handle and safe ride as a straight get a step apache, ask Jamie about it

hogie roll 07-10-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Sick Stinger (Post 4150935)
Speed gains of a step but te handle and safe ride as a straight get a step apache, ask Jamie about it

The chiefs appear to have less aggressive steps that were obviously added to the old straight mold. I don't think they're as fast as other step boats, but if they handle well it could be a good compromise. Note: I'm an arm chair QB.

Unlimited jd 07-10-2014 11:13 AM

Stripped Kevlar f2 boat runs over 90 with 560 hp. But back on topic, a t/s gun with a cabin to sleep in will be hard to find.

Interceptor 07-10-2014 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by lil red (Post 4150551)
I think the trs boats actually do it a bit more. Just my opinion

I thought the TRS hulls had a better center of gravity and didn't porpoise and the Bravo hulls were more aft CG and did porpoise ?
ed

SS930 07-10-2014 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by Interceptor (Post 4151104)
I thought the TRS hulls had a better center of gravity and didn't porpoise and the Bravo hulls were more aft CG and did porpoise ?
ed

The TRS drives/trans are definitely heavier than a bravo drive system. Even though the engines are moved forward slightly, I would think they are still heavier in the stern and more likely to porpoise. I've been in multiple TG's, with both drive systems... they both hop like a bucking bronco in smooth water (without tab), although the TRS boat's are probably slightly worse in this regard.

thisistank 07-10-2014 03:22 PM

Top guns (non TS) CG was designed for transmissions and motors forward. When everything went to bravo they didn't change the CG of the boat to accommodate. Bravo guns porpoise a bit more because of this. Although, like stated above, they all porpoise if not run properly. It is what it is. And an interesting fact the cabins in the TS guns were lightened up (changed from the awesome cabins of the 90's) to accommodate CG. they were too heavy in the bow with a full cabin thus, the cover girl was born.

Back on topic, in my experience (having driven and ridden in plenty of TS guns in big water and calm water alike and having owned a straight gun) there is no significant ride difference in big water between the straight bottom and TS guns. The TS is a better hull, period.

stimleck 07-10-2014 08:33 PM

and how is this trait considered acceptable when arguing for cigarettes as the best boats?, seems to me that porpoising and cheating on interior to mask it never gets mentioned in the fountain versus cig conversation by cig owners

Originally Posted by SS930 (Post 4151115)
The TRS drives/trans are definitely heavier than a bravo drive system. Even though the engines are moved forward slightly, I would think they are still heavier in the stern and more likely to porpoise. I've been in multiple TG's, with both drive systems... they both hop like a bucking bronco in smooth water (without tab), although the TRS boat's are probably slightly worse in this regard.


cfischer 07-10-2014 08:52 PM

Rode in Blee's 3 weeks ago and man what a great boat! Been in primal instinct (straight bottom, 6s and 950s) and in rough water there is no cig that will run stronger other then staggered #6 cigs. Just my opinion.

jbraun2828 07-10-2014 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by stimleck (Post 4151267)
and how is this trait considered acceptable when arguing for cigarettes as the best boats?, seems to me that porpoising and cheating on interior to mask it never gets mentioned in the fountain versus cig conversation by cig owners

They're not made for flat water


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