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outlw36 09-03-2014 03:03 PM

42 tiger info
 
Looking for any info on 42 tiger for sale in Hudsonville for 137,500.
It was in the north east but looking for more info.
How do the 2001 tigers perform with 575's and bravo xr's
Thanks

BajaFresh 09-03-2014 05:10 PM

I don't know anything about that particular boat but I was looking at an XR drive Tiger a while ago and everybody said the drives won't live. Too big and heavy a boat for Bravos. Just a FYI.

cig92 09-03-2014 07:31 PM

my neighbors 04 tiger with 525 xr had about 400 hrs till he had his first drive failure. they will last for a long time depending on how you drive it! be gentle out of the hole, don't go wave jumping all day and you will be fine

offshoredrillin 09-05-2014 08:18 AM

Ive had my tiger since late 05 went to 650 hp in 08 w xr's. had one lower go out with 472 hours on it. I wouldn't hesitate to own one with mild power and xr's.

SkaterMike82 09-06-2014 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4182584)
be gentle out of the hole, don't go wave jumping all day and you will be fine

What fun would that be? If you have a boat that size with that power as is it's not going to be fast; besides that you can't or have to be worried when you go jumping. It's not worth owning IMO. For that get a 38 and have fun and faster. Btw $ 137,500 is kinda high for bravo tiger again IMO.

lucky strike 09-06-2014 04:17 PM

[QUOTE=cig92;4182584 be gentle out of the hole, don't go wave jumping all day and you will be fine[/QUOTE]

Now thats funny!

cig92 09-06-2014 06:08 PM

Lets clarify this, you CAN go wave jumping all day and have your drives live but you better be good on the sticks. i have many friends that think they are good behind the wheel or on the sticks but they are few and far between lol. the tiger is a great boat and not everyone is concerned about top speed but rather a better ride quality

Relaxing 09-06-2014 07:25 PM

not everyone is concerned about top speed but rather a better ride quality[/QUOTE]

+1

cig92 09-06-2014 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by SkaterMike82 (Post 4184006)
What fun would that be? If you have a boat that size with that power as is it's not going to be fast; besides that you can't or have to be worried when you go jumping. It's not worth owning IMO. For that get a 38 and have fun and faster. Btw $ 137,500 is kinda high for bravo tiger again IMO.

BTW, i would say 82-84 gps in a 525 tiger is pretty respectable and running along at a good clip. how much lighter and faster do you really think a 38 tg with the same power is??? not much of a difference, soooooo i'm going to say that if you believe you are going to run much faster in a 38 or make your drives live much longer, then i think you are mistaken. just my opinion but, i would put my money on that statement. feel free to prove me wrong, it wouldn't be the first time but i have been around plenty of cigarettes, tg and tiger and i have seen all of the real gps numbers. i have also seen how long a drive can last or how quickly one can make a drive break. the longevity lies in the hands of the driver

SkaterMike82 09-06-2014 10:14 PM

The last statement I would agree with you but like I said before what fun would that be having to ALWAYS know that your drives might snap if you go jumping and having to hit the throttles softly when returning to the water but hey what do I know. Good luck outlw36 if you purchases it they like big water.

outlw36 09-07-2014 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by Relaxing (Post 4184154)
not everyone is concerned about top speed but rather a better ride quality

+1[/QUOTE]

I'm not concerned about doing 100 in the rough but being able to do 70-75 in anything the ocean can throw at me and ride like a caddy is what i'm looking for.
I do love the cockpit and cabin in my boat as I spend the weekends on it and can get a slip in any marina for the night without an issue, not sure if the 42 will be the same.
I also trailer my boat on the weekends (hoping the extra 6' isn't a problem)
It would help if the tiger owners could let me know if they like their boats or should I look for a 38TG
Thanks

jbraun2828 09-07-2014 11:03 AM


Originally Posted by SkaterMike82 (Post 4184219)
The last statement I would agree with you but like I said before what fun would that be having to ALWAYS know that your drives might snap if you go jumping and having to hit the throttles softly when returning to the water but hey what do I know. Good luck outlw36 if you purchases it they like big water.

Not everyone can afford a number 6 boat or even nxt's, so what is everyone suppose do? Not buy boats? Xr's are not that bad with stock power like 500 or 525efi's. As for this tiger, I'm local to it and have never seen it. My buddy is going to call on it this week as well.

tim mccray 09-07-2014 11:09 AM

I've had a 42' with 6 drives. I'm on the left coast and running in the pacific with a boat that heavy bravos won't hold up long at all. There's no such thing as taking it easy in this water. I've also had a 46' and a 38' Top Gun. The Top Gun rides very well, better than most boats it's size. It didn't ride as well as the Tiger and Rough Rider but it was my all around favorite and I had it the longest. They handle some big water and are much easier to trailer, don't need as big a dock space and there's a lot of other advantages. When you go to sell it, as long as you don't have a ridiculous price or ugly paint job on it, they sell fast, faster than 42's. Not sure what you're running right now but if it's the 36' Baja, you'll notice a big difference just going to a Top Gun and probably be very happy. Try to get a twin step. And if you go for the 42 anyway, make sure you have the truck to pull it with. Good luck

SkaterMike82 09-07-2014 12:00 PM


Originally Posted by tim mccray (Post 4184344)
I've had a 42' with 6 drives. I'm on the left coast and running in the pacific with a boat that heavy bravos won't hold up long at all. There's no such thing as taking it easy in this water. I've also had a 46' and a 38' Top Gun. The Top Gun rides very well, better than most boats it's size. It didn't ride as well as the Tiger and Rough Rider but it was my all around favorite and I had it the longest. They handle some big water and are much easier to trailer, don't need as big a dock space and there's a lot of other advantages. When you go to sell it, as long as you don't have a ridiculous price or ugly paint job on it, they sell fast, faster than 42's. Not sure what you're running right now but if it's the 36' Baja, you'll notice a big difference just going to a Top Gun and probably be very happy. Try to get a twin step. And if you go for the 42 anyway, make sure you have the truck to pull it with. Good luck

I can't agree with you anymore especially "There's no such thing as taking it easy in this water" that was awesome.

outlw36 09-07-2014 01:53 PM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4184343)
Not everyone can afford a number 6 boat or even nxt's, so what is everyone suppose do? Not buy boats? Xr's are not that bad with stock power like 500 or 525efi's. As for this tiger, I'm local to it and have never seen it. My buddy is going to call on it this week as well.

The boat was traded in and came from the east coast that's why I was hoping someone new it. I think it was in Maine.

thisistank 09-07-2014 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by tim mccray (Post 4184344)
I've had a 42' with 6 drives. I'm on the left coast and running in the pacific with a boat that heavy bravos won't hold up long at all. There's no such thing as taking it easy in this water.

Spoken like a true offshore boater!! ;)

Broken gimble on a #6? Yea, we did that. It sure is nice to run sh1t the way god meant to run it offshore. #6 tiger and blown 1000's in big water....it's pretty much nervana for a powerboat enthusiast.

thisistank 09-07-2014 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4184343)
Not everyone can afford a number 6 boat or even nxt's, so what is everyone suppose do? Not buy boats? Xr's are not that bad with stock power like 500 or 525efi's. As for this tiger, I'm local to it and have never seen it. My buddy is going to call on it this week as well.

It's not a "#6 boat" people usually can't afford. It's the fact the drives are usually connected to something in the high HP blown range which equals big $$$ :D

tim mccray 09-07-2014 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4184456)
Spoken like a true offshore boater!! ;)

Broken gimble on a #6? Yea, we did that. It sure is nice to run sh1t the way god meant to run it offshore. #6 tiger and blown 1000's in big water....it's pretty much nervana for a powerboat enthusiast.

Didn't actually break the gimble, just knocked it loose lol

thisistank 09-07-2014 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by tim mccray (Post 4184466)
Didn't actually break the gimble, just knocked it loose lol

When you hang it out so long that you're actually asking yourself when you're going to land....well, yea, probably something's gonna break. Lol

BajaFresh 09-07-2014 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4184456)
Spoken like a true offshore boater!! ;)

Broken gimble on a #6? Yea, we did that. It sure is nice to run sh1t the way god meant to run it offshore. #6 tiger and blown 1000's in big water....it's pretty much nervana for a powerboat enthusiast.

Hi Tim. Hi Tank.

Yeah, that's why I said bravos and 42 tigers don't mix! Actually, I think it was both of you that told me that!

I got a ride in Kenny Boyce's Tiger once. Man, that was a nice boat.

My main reason for my boating addiction is to run hard in the Pacific. There is just nothing like jumping those big rollers and getting some serious hang time! If I have to go slow there is no point in being out there. That's why me next boat has to be a wave crusher.

Tank, didn't your signature line used to be something like, "It's not how fast you can go, it's how fast you can go in 5 footers!"?

Drake22.250 09-07-2014 06:17 PM

Looked at a few 42 tigers and top guns. The 38 top gun has a little more room in the cockpit area, so I chose to go with the 38. Both are awesome boats. My 2cents

thisistank 09-07-2014 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by BajaFresh (Post 4184486)
Hi Tim. Hi Tank.

Yeah, that's why I said bravos and 42 tigers don't mix! Actually, I think it was both of you that told me that!

I got a ride in Kenny Boyce's Tiger once. Man, that was a nice boat.

My main reason for my boating addiction is to run hard in the Pacific. There is just nothing like jumping those big rollers and getting some serious hang time! If I have to go slow there is no point in being out there. That's why me next boat has to be a wave crusher.

Tank, didn't your signature line used to be something like, "It's not how fast you can go, it's how fast you can go in 5 footers!"?


Lol. Yea. Everyone talks about too speed and all. Bit out here in the pacific you need something that can handle a routine 6 foot swell plus wind chop. If you've never run for a long distance in 6 footers and chop at 70+ mph, you don't know offshore running. My .02.

offshoredrillin 09-07-2014 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by outlw36 (Post 4184340)
It would help if the tiger owners could let me know if they like their boats or should I look for a 38TG
Thanks

i love my tiger. I gave never been afraidvto run it anywhere, anytime.... i won my class in the 08 miami/bimini and back.... against #6 boats too ;)

4195 09-07-2014 08:21 PM

I love my Tiger it is amazing in rough or choppy water. I can not get over how responsive the boat is in 3' to 5's. Top Guns have a bigger cockpit but once you sit at the helm in a Tiger with that long deck in front of you, you'll be hooked for life.....unless you take the controls of a Rough Rider.

tim mccray 09-07-2014 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by 4195 (Post 4184579)
I love my Tiger it is amazing in rough or choppy water. I can not get over how responsive the boat is in 3' to 5's. Top Guns have a bigger cockpit but once you sit at the helm in a Tiger with that long deck in front of you, you'll be hooked for life.....unless you take the controls of a Rough Rider.

The 42's are great boats, the Rough Riders are pretty awesome too, but they're not all that. I'd gladly take a 42' over a Rough Rider any day. I don't think the extra bow length is worth all the extra hassle of dealing with towing it and being limited as to where you can dock or where you can launch. Launch ramps in Cali are tight and made for small boats. Top Guns are no problem, some times a 42' is pushing it but you can make it happen, and there's ramps out here that I couldn't launch the 46' at, couldn't gain access.

cig92 09-08-2014 07:24 AM

seeing you want a larger cabin for sleepovers and would like to go wave jumping i would suggest a number 6 outerlimits. you get a LOT more head room, it's more plush and the number 6 boats are coming down in price. there seems to be a pretty good selection of them as well.

frickstyle 09-08-2014 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4184716)
seeing you want a larger cabin for sleepovers and would like to go wave jumping i would suggest a number 6 outerlimits. you get a LOT more head room, it's more plush and the number 6 boats are coming down in price. there seems to be a pretty good selection of them as well.

This is sound advice. Outerlimits has better creature comforts, and a lot of boats were rigged with 6s, more so than Cigs.

CignificantOther 09-08-2014 04:32 PM

42 Tiger with No. 6 Drives
 
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This one meets your requirements and has a full cabin......

CignificantOther 09-08-2014 04:53 PM

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Quinlan 09-08-2014 05:03 PM

Man I Really dig the lighting behind side pads. May we ask how you did it?

outlw36 09-08-2014 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by CignificantOther (Post 4185020)
This one meets your requirements and has a full cabin......

The boat looks great

cig92 09-08-2014 06:12 PM

That's one nice looking boat!

CignificantOther 09-08-2014 10:48 PM


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4185040)
Man I Really dig the lighting behind side pads. May we ask how you did it?

Thanks. A friend of mine owns Lightnin' Jack Customs in Gonzales, LA. He completely stripped the interior and built new side panels with the added the Cigarette embroidery. The nice thing is during the day, you would never even know the boat is loaded with LED. Custom lower side panels were also constructed, from the dash to the back seat, with foam and glass to create sub woofer boxes. These were designed utilizing a 1 inch relief from the floor to hide and project the LED floor lighting. Now I have use of all of my rear seat storage, since the subs were relocated to the side panels. There are also LED lights mounted under the bolsters and in all of the speakers.

jmackin 09-09-2014 08:02 AM

Do TS tigers have the same tendency to spin or roll like the TG's? Dont think I've heard of any doing the spin or roll? I know there arent as many out there either.

cig92 09-09-2014 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by jmackin (Post 4185356)
Do TS tigers have the same tendency to spin or roll like the TG's? Dont think I've heard of any doing the spin or roll? I know there arent as many out there either.

i don't think any of them really have a tendency to spin or roll unless you drive like an idiot but there are a few of those drivers out there that give boats a bad name

InXS 09-09-2014 02:07 PM

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jmackin 09-09-2014 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4185450)
i don't think any of them really have a tendency to spin or roll unless you drive like an idiot but there are a few of those drivers out there that give boats a bad name

What I ,meant was more so than a straight bottom or as much as a TS Topgun...

Biggus 09-09-2014 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by cig92 (Post 4185450)
i don't think any of them really have a tendency to spin or roll unless you drive like an idiot but there are a few of those drivers out there that give boats a bad name

FWIW, I've logged 220 hrs on my 30 Cigarette T/S Mystique and NEVER have I felt it get loose enough to spin out. Not sure why it's happened so often but makes one think that inexperience/aggressiveness might be the problem not the boats.

SS930 09-09-2014 03:41 PM

Tigers are great boats. From an offshore perspective, there's a significant difference between a Tiger and a TG. Not only are the Tigers sexier with the long bow and beautiful lines, but the extra length is pretty damn noticeable in the open water.

I personally would not consider a bravo butt Tiger, unless it only had 500's or maybe 525's, but I think that package is a little under powered so I would pass on that as well. Tigers love to play in the bigger water, but what's the point of having a boat like that and have it neutered with bravo's and mild power? The only bravo based drive I would accept on a Tiger is the SCX. I would expect a Tiger to be about 3-5 mph slower than an equivalent TG.

The cockpit (like the 46) of the Tiger is smaller than the TG. I've never measured it, but probably close to a foot shorter. There's plenty of room for 5 people (even 6 if one person stands between the front seats), but for socializing the TG cockpit is noticeably more roomy. If you're looking at stepped boats and if overnighting is a concern, keep in mind most if not all of the TS TG's will only have a 1/2 cabin. They did a couple of different cabins with the Tiger.

The TG is easier to trailer and dock, there's no doubt about that, but once in the open water the Tiger is the clear winner.

The stepped TG and Tiger are both stable, but like any stepped boat, if pushed too hard (and I've never understood why people would drive one like it were on a slalom course) both can be made to spin. The Tiger doesn't really have any significant ill-handling issues, it's an awesome boat in the rough water. They are known to have some issues once you get up into the mid 90's and above, but unless you're running 750+ hp per side, you'll never really see those speeds anyway. Cig did recognize the the problem and later corrected it with the 42X.

Overall I'd look hard at the Tiger because they are typically priced on par or even slightly below the equivalent TG, but from a performance standpoint I think they are a better performing boat in the open water and depending on the boat, it might have a better cabin too. If you're looking for something with a little more cockpit room, more friendly to trailer, and easier to dock, the TG is without a doubt a better fit. With that said, looking down the long bow of the Tiger is something that's just so cool... After being on a Tiger, the deck of the TG just looks unnaturally short in comparison. ;)

Quinlan 09-09-2014 04:53 PM

Unless you try to do a Bat Turn in 3 boat lengths No worries about T/S.


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