Why Does It Change Hands So Often?
 

High dollar maintanence. I know the guy that owned it last was over the maintanence.

Someone needs to do the right thing and drop 1350/8's in it and be done. :D

The problem is the 1350's is a major redo and I wouldn't trust the hull strength with the extra speed and power. The 1075's provided to much flex when running some moderate waves. I think without an extra stringer and thicker/stronger construction the stringers would fail. Just my insight.

You would know. You owned it and worked on it long enough.

The 46 is a great Poker Run and rough water boat. But not very practical for everyday use as you cannot really take it out by yourself due to its size. The power is nice but there is still a lot of maintenance along with fuel costs.I never understood the cabin arrangement on this boat. Looks like a troop carrier with those side facing seats for 8.

Agreed! And nothing beats the 90's cig cabin...usable, user friendly cabin!

my business partner owns it now and has had a great time with it this summer, he takes it out by himself all the time - he is moving in different direction now - we both get board with stuff fast and keep mixing it up, this is his 4th boat in 6yrs - LipShip and TNT have the boat running perfect now - the new owner will love it - Steve has had no problems with it since Phil and TNT went completely through it

All I can say is, not a fan of 1075's... It should be dialed, it's had enough money sunk into it.

I wonder if yours had a different stringer layup/design than mine has. Mine does not exhibit any noticeable hull flex at high speeds or in big water. The deck does flex a little towards the center since it isn't ribbed (like the TG), but the hull is solid as a rock. I know they have done 1350/8's in multiple 46's and based on the pictures I've seen of those boats, they have the same stringer layout as my 46 does. Is it possible AM II has a different layout or that it has a compromised stringer(s) that might have visually gone unnoticed??? I'm not suggesting there's anything wrong with AM II, I'm just saying I have not experienced hull flexing at all with my 46... nor have I heard of any issues with the 46's with 1350's.

The rub rails would pop out. That was running 90 in 4-5's. I thought if I ever built a 46 with 1350's it would have to be stronger.

I would strongly agree with this statement. The 46 is a kick-azz boat on the open water, but unlike the TG, it's not something you want to routinely take out without at least one other (strong and/or handy) person on-board... especially if you're trailering it or will be spending much time around congested docks.

Strange. I have not even had a loose screw with my rub rails.

I think there are only two 46's w/1350's. The AMG and Instigator. I could be wrong, there might be another one. Think the AMG is overseas.? Either way, my good friend owns Instigator, that's the 46 that is blue, orange, yellow with flames. I have been in the boat a lot of times and traveled from Miami to KW two years ago on it. It's amazing to say the least! He has had zero issues with the hull or the deck. The motors have some hours on them now and are still running great also!


Maybe other 46's have difffetent stringer layout than his.? I think Cigarette has been pushing the 50 Marauder since they have released it. Not many 46's built the last couple years. If I remember right the owner told me it is the only 46 in the country w/1350's since the AMG went overseas. Again I could be mistaking but I don't think so.

I love AMII!! It's a beautiful Cig. The 1075's are the downfall. If I had the coin, I'd buy it, strip all the cables and wires and re-rig with 1100's and keep the 6's on the back. Saves money and now a brand new bad ass boat with reliable power.

People the 1100's do not mean maintenance free. The rebuild cost of 100's and 1350's is around 50k each and so far can only be done by mercury. 1075's can be done by most engine builders and only need routine valve adjustment then top ends done around 100+ hours. Major rebuild is about 1/3 of a 1100/1350 from outside source and less than half at mercury. Ask around about people with time on 1350's and how many turbo issues they have had.

I remember that ...maybe it's time to experiment.... LOL

Geez, this site is amusing and sometimes annoying.

Ok, first thanks Wild for chiming in and alerting me to the thread. This is my boat and I bought it from LipShip in Feb. As I understand it, when it lived in OH the failures were ultimately only due to the mechanic(s) working on it. It had tranny issues that were solved as soon as TNT worked on it. Between Philly and TNT they had this boat dialed in perfect before I had it to brought to MO. You get what you pay for with TNT and Philly....you want it done right, take it to the right people.

The previous owner, Tim I believe, had lots of work done to it (trampoline repair, portions of interior, stereo, the speaker wiring redone, new touchscreen Garmins (and on and on) and the when he went to KW in Nov the CMI's leaked on the plug in motor and it hydro locked. Tim, you can jump in and correct me, but then Philly had the motor rebuilt from crank up and put Stainless Marine manifolds and full exhaust on it with 5 year warranty. I bought it and had Philly do speakers, wind screen, new interior panels, carpeting, LED lights in the cabin and LED Nav lights. We went as far as shaving the water pickups to gain speed and increase water pressure. We had guy from Cig factory do the stereo speaker wiring and another factory guy do paint touchups before it left North Miami. I'd say between Tim and I this boat had close to $80k put into it since Nov.

As Wild said, we get bored with boats. 4 boats in 6 years for me and each and every one I have gotten to where it's near perfect, then I sell it. The 1075's have been flawless for me. 20 hours on it at LOTO and I have changed the oil twice, valve lash adjustment, starter solenoid and some toggles switches on the dash all done by Nauti Marine not Billy Bobs Marina. I'm going a different route. Talked to Phil about building a 39GTS and have been looking at 46OL's. The whole point of this is that the boat is in great shape - I'm not selling due to too big to take out by myself (I do almost every weekend), too many costs to repair, nor 1075's are downfall, not rub rail popping from boat flexing or any other comments that don't apply to this boat. Sure 1100's and 1350's would be nice if you want that power and boat priced out of its market. I obviously do not hold onto to stuff that long to get my monies worth for the turbo's.

The next buyer will, as I did, buy the bought on the high side. The paint is fantastic, it runs flawlessly and looks like it just a few years old.

Next

When JB sold the boat from Ohio it was perfect then, that I do know.... the rubrail did pop at least once I know of... JB spared no cost to make the boat a great boat, after he sold it who knows, looks great then, still does now.....

My friend Mike, who runs my corporations and myself actually went in on this boat. We sold the two that we had and picked this up. Yes we did sink a bunch of coin into it more than I care to talk about on here. The tails and mufflers leaked, that's why it got the new exhaust system. The one trip to Key West when it broke down was actually a valve that broke. Tom that owns the Top Gun Hot For Teacher was driving. We were planning on rebuilding the motors after that trip when we got it back to Cali but decided that this boat wasn't for us and had Phil rebuild the broken engine and sell the boat. So our plans changed, we sold it and moved on. As far as any bow screws coming undone, never heard of that or had any issues with it. If anyone is serious about buying one, this one has a bunch of upgrades and a lot of time and money into it. There's no better looking one out there.. Period.. And theres only a couple of more that are for sale and have been for years, for obvious reasons. I think this is the best priced one on the market right now.

That's my favorite cig

When I did my rebuild through Mercury. I mailed the exhaust to the manufacture. They sent preformed foam boxes. They pressure tested them and fixed anything marginal. If I remember right it was 10k. Really a shame that they started leaking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cnJmQcwxVE
Nuff said this cig is sick and ready to rock in 2015.

Yep. Not for the faint of heart.

She's getting some cosmetic touchups this winter and will be near perfection.

I saw the boat this year at Larry's on the Lake. I saw the 1075's and SM exhaust and scratched my head. Now I know the rest of the story. Good day!

Giggles and I are ready :)

I've got some good video of AM II but have no way to get it on here. A poker run at LOTO.
It's a real nice ride.

I have never asked before. Who painted AM II?

Taod

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unless it the video of you blowing by :angry-smiley-044:

I missed this thread during the summer working, it's a pretty nice boat. :boat:

Can't wait to see what's next!

I should have known

Just to add this boat was easy to dock all summer long at the lake no matter where the slip was.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5SKUlg88ACc

About 95-100mph pass


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_dV3Rb_7t4E

A little long but some good video and pics. Sums up the 2008 poker run to key west

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MgKAMlMDvEM
Running fast


A lot of music but without it all you'd hear is wind

I second the ease of docking. I could dock it anywhere by myself. Props bite and with some practice can spin or place the boat where ever you want even in wind and current.

This will be the next 46 to sell.
Just bury the drives when getting on plane and the bow won't raise and the steps will eventually pop you up and off you go. Needs very little drive trim.

That`s one bada$$ Cig!
Love that rooster.

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MERICA F&%ck YEAH!




http://i.imgur.com/ZuN5imI.jpg

HELL YES hahah

Only hard day to dock was that day I met you at the condo with 50 MPH north winds LOL remember that??? I think you have pics of that day....