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Rbesola 10-22-2014 08:06 PM

kaamas on a cigarette????
 
Just wondering what anyones thoughts are on it since theyre pretty much a dime a dozen. My #5's only have 2 seasons on them since all new gears, 1 of which with only 500s in front of them should bring 25k+, get a new set of boxes without tailstocks and weld a new rear plate in to have a fresh base to mount them to? Am I dreaming??? Are they any more efficient to turn? Or should I let well enough alone?:eureka:
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Drake22.250 10-22-2014 08:22 PM

Mark(h20) has commented on the kaamas drives a few times in the Magnum section. Claimed they worked great on a cat he ran back in the day. Only down fall is getting parts. Pm Mark he is a top notch old school racer!

88bullet 10-22-2014 09:03 PM

25k for your drives is dreaming

Rbesola 10-22-2014 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4207598)
25k for your drives is dreaming

Let me rephrase, I can ask that...seems everyone else is asking that. Not sure what they're going for but i've seen a few marked sold in the last few months

bck 10-22-2014 09:39 PM

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Dan MacNamara from Archer would be the one to tell you how well that would work. You'd need drop boxes because the Kaama's would be mounted much lower than your current trans output. They'd probably go even lower than your boxes would allow. I think it'd be a great project on your boat with your money, I'd love to watch. Kaama cutout pic.

88bullet 10-22-2014 09:48 PM

good luck. i would prob go with arnesons vs the kaama tho.

bck 10-22-2014 10:09 PM

Definitely. But I thought he wanted to sell his for 25k, buy the kaamas for 5k and end up with a surface drive boat and 20k in the bank. Of course he'd also end up with a worthless Cigarette but what the hell.

Rbesola 10-22-2014 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by bck (Post 4207657)
Definitely. But I thought he wanted to sell his for 25k, buy the kaamas for 5k and end up with a surface drive boat and 20k in the bank

Bingo...it was just a thought. If I had all the money in the world I wouldn't put 45k worth of arnesons on a 45k boat no matter how much I wanted to. Maybe itd be a good second boat project then someday down the road

bck 10-22-2014 10:20 PM

Notice the last sentence I added with the edit while you were typing this though

jmoore1225 10-23-2014 12:10 AM

What are you running w/ 800's?

Sydwayz 10-23-2014 07:59 AM

There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.

ICDEDPPL 10-23-2014 08:28 AM

I know a few that have been sitting on some fresh #5`s for a long time @ $15 and 18K

88bullet 10-23-2014 08:47 AM

arent your drives big shaft 4's like i had for sale and not 5's??

kreed 10-23-2014 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4207769)
There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.

True Brian, mine sold in within four days of being listed. Old School is still running in Michigan.

Rik 10-23-2014 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4207769)
There have not been many Cigarettes with shaft/surface drives. Do a search on the Zero Cavity Cigarette, as Doc went to Pulse Drives briefly, and then ripped the whole transom apart to go back to SSM. I think you would be wasting your money. If you want to make your boat "legendary", step up to VI drives. There have only been a handful of straight bottom guns with VI drives, and they all seem to have a following and list of buyers when they come up for sale.

Please don't lump all Surface Drives in what those POS drives that Zero Cavity went as there is no relevance between those and other Surface Drives. I've got no less than about 13 of the older 38' Top Guns with Arnesons on them and the results speak for themselves. Excellence, better docking, better speed, better handling and lower maintenance than an I/O.

As for would I put KAAMA's on this boat.. No. Just b/c something is cheap doesn't mean it's good.

Rbesola 10-23-2014 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by 88bullet (Post 4207809)
arent your drives big shaft 4's like i had for sale and not 5's??

I was told they were big shaft 4s, but I was told they had 12 hours too.... Turns out they had 3 of 4 bad gear sets and when collabella had them he noticed they were 5s with the larger pins.

Common consensus is the Kammas are junk. I'll just let well enough alone

caseyh 10-23-2014 06:08 PM

Doesn't arnesons have conversion to swap and use your gembles?

Rik 10-23-2014 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by caseyh (Post 4208109)
Doesn't arnesons have conversion to swap and use your gembles?

No, we do not need to use any of the I/O's components in the conversion. Remove and sell it all...

Zero Patience 10-23-2014 08:34 PM

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This is what I did

cig92 10-23-2014 09:06 PM

you have a great boat now, use it and enjoy it for what it's worth. you have a nice motor and drive package that will make it worth more than others when the time comes, don't bury yourself in it unless you plan to keep it and if that is the case then do what you like with it. it will always be worth decent money, it's a cigarette top gun! 12-15k on the drive package imo, that is what the buyers are paying for the nice stuff


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