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314joey 02-05-2015 03:31 PM

Cigarette Mystique - whose the expert
 
I was wanting to get some info on the Mystique, about how many of them were built and during what years and how have they held up over the years.

I was wondering how they would take the LOTO Summer Saturday afternoon slop, they don't have a molded swim platform so they truly are 30', unlike my 353 Formula which is 35' 3", but it has almost 2' of molded swim platform which makes the true hull only 33'.

Anyone have any experience with them and can share any info with me, thanks.

I'CE 02-05-2015 08:16 PM

try "Biggus" screen name here on OSO

314joey 02-05-2015 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by I'CE (Post 4261026)
try "Biggus" screen name here on OSO

I was just reading the other Mystique thread, I'll have to PM him and ask him how his ride took the LOTO slop when he was there, thanks.

SkaterMike82 02-05-2015 08:52 PM

Yup Kurt (biggus)would know and I saw it running this yr at LOTO and will say it handled well. They only made 4 t/s and his by far is the nicest. Supposably lipship is in the process of redoing one as we speak. I heard from a good resource that the main reason Cig stopped making them was there was no profit on them as we all know Skip is all about profit and biz so it didn't make sense.

tcwcar 02-06-2015 11:34 AM

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Joey I'm no expert, but I do own a straight bottom one that I restored, and have a lot of pics and info on the mystiques and vices, heres some pics and differences of my straight haul and biggus t/s mystique and vice bottom, the total length of the hauls are almost 31feet,without the swim platform, here are the spec sheets on both ...[ATTACH=CONFIG]536642[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]536643[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]536644[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]536645[/ATTACH]

314joey 02-06-2015 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by tcwcar (Post 4261284)
Joey I'm no expert, but I do own a straight bottom one that I restored, and have a lot of pics and info on the mystiques and vices, heres some pics and differences of my straight haul and biggus t/s mystique and vice bottom, the total length of the hauls are almost 31feet,without the swim platform, here are the spec sheets on both ]

I love both yours and Biggus Cig, I may have to downsize a bit due to dock/slip size limitations and the Mystique could be a great boat to fit the bill if I had to sell my Formula and get a 30' boat.

Thanks for the info, greatly appreciated.

F-2 Speedy 02-06-2015 01:52 PM

Come own man, step up to the pump and get a Gun

314joey 02-06-2015 02:03 PM

We're back looking for a second house at LOTO and the place we want only has a 30' slip, (no hang-out), I'm offering all the neighbors with bigger slips big cash to let one go and sell it to me, so far no dice, my Formula is a problem and doesn't fit either, I don't think a TG will fit either, unless they have some special fold up capability I don't know about.

Sydwayz 02-06-2015 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by 314joey (Post 4261335)
We're back looking for a second house at LOTO and the place we want only has a 30' slip, (no hang-out), I'm offering all the neighbors with bigger slips big cash to let one go and sell it to me, so far no dice, my Formula is a problem and doesn't fit either, I don't think a TG will fit either, unless they have some special fold up capability I don't know about.

Just run it in there at speed. It will fit (eventually).

314joey 02-06-2015 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4261342)
Just run it in there at speed. It will fit (eventually).

Backwards or forward,.................................dahm condo rules.

dsparis 02-06-2015 03:08 PM

Check with Jim Darr. He may have an extra slip at Super Cat Cove.

314joey 02-06-2015 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by dsparis (Post 4261376)
Check with Jim Darr. He may have an extra slip at Super Cat Cove.

There goes this thread.

Allicat38 02-06-2015 04:44 PM

I had one for 4 yrs. It was a 2002 straight bottom with 496 hos. The boat ran 74-75 everyday with a best of 77 on GPS. I really like the boat a lot and probably shouldn't have sold it. But I did. I had the Crayola style one. It had bravo drives on it. It is a good size to trailer around. Not to big but not small. I weighed mine on a scale and it was 11200 with over half tank of fuel and some gear like bumpers, anchor, rope, ropes. It has great lines like the top gun. It was very solid and handled well. I normally ran the boat on the Delaware river down to upper chesepeke bay. I never felt like I ran out of boat. I really like the black motors for reliability and was a plus for me. I want to boat. If I had a choice 525 in this boat would be awesome.

Now the 2 issues I had with the boat was it had that porpoise problem. It is there and you will need to understand how to run the boat. For someone who can really run a boat it will be not much of a problem. It is worst at slower speeds than at higher speeds. The boat loves 60-65 cruise flat and true when trimmed right. A little fast for my power package I had. I cruised at 50-55 at lower 3400 rpm. I would not let the porpoise issue scare me away from this boat because you are getting a true quality, solid boat that to me cant be matched. It is a drivers boat needing attention to trim and tabs a lot. Like I said , don't let that part scare you because I really think the boat cant be matched.
The other is the bilge is tight in front of the motors as I seem to be getting bigger as I get older.

I sold mine and was thinking of going to a 38. Now I am not sure. So I look at all the 30 size boats and none have the interior of the cig. I don't like the inside dash of Baja, sunsation ,active thunder. The rounded dashes , throttle positions. I seem to really like the cig style. just my opinion. And the lines of the cig Is only matched by apache and maybe a few more. Im kind of old school and like straighter lines. I have had a 20 cig ,28 apache ,30 cig ,38 ocean yacht. boatless now. sold the cig nov 13. Hope this helps.

Got Cigs 02-07-2015 11:11 AM

+1 with allicat on the bilge space. If there was a little more room in the bilge, I probably would have kept mine. Mine had the 380 k planes, so the porpoise wasn't too bad on my boat.

314joey 02-07-2015 01:34 PM

Good stuff guys, thanks

Allicat38 02-07-2015 03:25 PM

The bilge was tight. Especially changing the water pump and the fuel filters. If the step for the fuel tank wasnt there that would help the bilge situation. I had 280 k tabs. And again I think this boat is great. the porpoise is manageable and when you pull up to the dock you are in a cig. That counts for sure. Go get one. I don't think you will be sorry.

Allicat38 02-07-2015 03:31 PM

Also if you can get a step hull for a good price. That would be the best way to go.

kreed 02-09-2015 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Allicat38 (Post 4261852)
The bilge was tight. Especially changing the water pump and the fuel filters. If the step for the fuel tank wasnt there that would help the bilge situation. I had 280 k tabs. And again I think this boat is great. the porpoise is manageable and when you pull up to the dock you are in a cig. That counts for sure. Go get one. I don't think you will be sorry.

The 31 Bullet has a decent amount of bilge room. Maybe you can find one already restored.


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