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MF 04-02-2015 08:20 AM

Cigarette HIN
 
I am thinking at a new project, since it seems that the 36 is moving in a really near future, something smaller just for speed and fun and to keep been a member of teh cig family.
Can anyone give me an advice on how to decipher the HIn of cigarettes ? CRT is stating that is the real deal, then the model, then ? Last two numbers should be the year, am i right ?

F-2 Speedy 04-02-2015 08:31 AM

CRT38###D393 12 Characters CRT= Cigarette Racing Team US= made in the US 38 is the length ### = production number D= month it was made 3= model year 1993 93= made in 1993

phragle 04-02-2015 08:33 AM

This may not be entirely correct, but most of it hould be....


CRT140011277 [CRT] cigarette racing team [14] length of boat [001]production number [12] month built
[77] year built

oceanperf 04-02-2015 08:54 AM

CRT38104L485 for example. Gigarette 38 length, 104 production number, L 12th month so its December, The numeral 4, 1984 year built, 85 model year. This is just an example. So that is the 104th 38 Cig manufactured in December of 1984 and is deemed a 1985 model. Newer cigs start w UST #'s

MF 04-02-2015 08:59 AM

I am looking at a 20 that ends with a 03....it's from the 80's, so it should be 73 or 83...definitely not 2003..
Can it be possible that old ones had a different scheme ? i understood that the numbers started in 1973 - late 1972, easy explanation could be that the seller made a mistake in the writing of it ...

oceanperf 04-02-2015 09:03 AM

I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.

MF 04-02-2015 09:19 AM

The Hin i received is CRT 207202203

Doug 04-02-2015 07:13 PM

Home » General Boat Information » Hull Identification Number – What does it mean?
On or after November 1st, 1972 every boat that was manufactured was and still is required to have a Hull Identification Number or HIN.
The preferred location of the HIN is the starboard outboard side of the hull aft. The HIN is also located on the transom of a boat. The HIN is required by law to be located in 2 places of the boat, usualy the hull aft and the transom.
Since 1972 The HIN is a series of alphanumeric characters which determine Manufacturer, Series, and Date of Certification.
So what does it all mean?
Example #1 of HIN Display before Auguist 1st, 1984:
XYZ543211272
XYZ = Manufacturer’s ID Code or MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
1272 = Date of Certification
Example #2 of Display of HIN before August 1st, 1984
XYZ54321M73E
XYZ = MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
M73E = Date of Certification
On the second example, the letter “E” determines the month in which the boat was built. Below is what stands for what month:
A = August
B = September
C = October
D = November
E = December
F = January
G = February
H = March
I = April
J = May
K = June
L = July
The format that we know today which has been default HIN Format since August 1st, 1984. The HIN is also required to be displayed on to locations of the vessel: the transom and a second location inside the boat beneath a fitting or item of hardware. this was done in the event a boat was stolen, the HIN would be removed from the transom and the second location of the HIN would help authorities identify the boats. Below is an example of what the current HIN Format is:
Example: HIN Format after 1984
XYZ54321E708
XYZ = MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
E7 = Date of Certification of Manufacture
08 = Model Year
The letter “E” remains the month the boat was built however, the Coast Guard changed what each letter means. See the example below.
A = January
B = February
C = March
D = April
E = May
F = June
G = July
H = August
I = September
J = October
K = November
L = December
So know we know what a HIN stands for.

Unlimited jd 04-02-2015 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by oceanperf (Post 4287060)
I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.

No one on this site can tell you more cigarette history than this guy. If it was sold in the late 80's through early 90's he probably delivered it.

MF 04-05-2015 02:30 PM

Seems that the hin is right, will have a photo of the transom, can it be 1983 ?

MF 04-06-2015 12:08 PM

1 Attachment(s)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]539519[/ATTACH]

This is the actual pic of the HIN in the transom.

Comanche3Six 04-06-2015 12:52 PM

1 Attachment(s)
An example of OEM work

MF 04-06-2015 02:47 PM

5 Attachment(s)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]539522[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539523[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539524[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539525[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539526[/ATTACH]

Boat looks like it's the real deal to me...Cannot understand those numbers, but i have found a plate of another cig 20 on a resto thread that has similar numbers..Should be a real 20 to me

bertsboat 06-18-2015 03:18 PM

Looking for hull number 10 HIN CRT200001072 in the New jersey area. Thanks

MF 08-31-2015 03:45 PM

What do you Cig guys think of this hin ? Can it be a fake one ? From the pictures that i had of the boat it looks like a regular Cigarette 20, only in need of attention and tlc (lots)...
I hadn't been able to have a look at it but i believe it's a Genuine Cigarette

F-2 Speedy 08-31-2015 03:52 PM

why was it removed and broke

Polcarif 02-05-2019 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by oceanperf (Post 4287060)
I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.

I have this crt33 with the HIN of crt330120182. It’s hard to find any information on these things. Would you know anything about this bunch of hulls history and why there were only a small amount made.

Holy Smokes 02-05-2019 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by Polcarif (Post 4671233)

I have this crt33 with the HIN of crt330120182. It’s hard to find any information on these things. Would you know anything about this bunch of hulls history and why there were only a small amount made.

You have something probably more rare than you think. The Cig 33's were known as 33 Limited Editions, 33' hulls with 9'6" beam. To my knowledge Cig only popped around 12 hulls of this size. I had hull #10 (CRT33010279) made in 1979. Username 'yss' has it now. You may very well have the last one, Hull #12. Craig Barie & Brownie recall that these hulls were likely a 36' widebody hull with a block put in the mold at 33'.

Would love to see some pics!

Polcarif 02-05-2019 12:15 PM

I’m working on it I need to make a few more posts before I can. I’m a new member

jtr2kwl 02-05-2019 03:22 PM

I find that Cig 20 HIN to be a bit odd, it does not follow the older or newer methodology. Mine is CRT201161079. Model = 20, Number = 116, Date = 10/79. Could it have been restamped? Appears to be crooked, and some of the numbers are not level. Haven't seen anything like that

jtr2kwl 02-05-2019 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by MF (Post 4288515)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]539522[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539523[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539524[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539525[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539526[/ATTACH]

Boat looks like it's the real deal to me...Cannot understand those numbers, but i have found a plate of another cig 20 on a resto thread that has similar numbers..Should be a real 20 to me


Although, I have the same photo of the HIN plate you posted, from the owner of that boat. That particular boat is a 72, and I believe to be the actual first cig 20. That said, the HIN from the boat in question in this thread has an additional number.

Shah Mat 04-04-2022 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by Doug (Post 4287314)
Home » General Boat Information » Hull Identification Number – What does it mean?
On or after November 1st, 1972 every boat that was manufactured was and still is required to have a Hull Identification Number or HIN.
The preferred location of the HIN is the starboard outboard side of the hull aft. The HIN is also located on the transom of a boat. The HIN is required by law to be located in 2 places of the boat, usualy the hull aft and the transom.
Since 1972 The HIN is a series of alphanumeric characters which determine Manufacturer, Series, and Date of Certification.
So what does it all mean?
Example #1 of HIN Display before Auguist 1st, 1984:
XYZ543211272
XYZ = Manufacturer’s ID Code or MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
1272 = Date of Certification
Example #2 of Display of HIN before August 1st, 1984
XYZ54321M73E
XYZ = MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
M73E = Date of Certification
On the second example, the letter “E” determines the month in which the boat was built. Below is what stands for what month:
A = August
B = September
C = October
D = November
E = December
F = January
G = February
H = March
I = April
J = May
K = June
L = July
The format that we know today which has been default HIN Format since August 1st, 1984. The HIN is also required to be displayed on to locations of the vessel: the transom and a second location inside the boat beneath a fitting or item of hardware. this was done in the event a boat was stolen, the HIN would be removed from the transom and the second location of the HIN would help authorities identify the boats. Below is an example of what the current HIN Format is:
Example: HIN Format after 1984
XYZ54321E708
XYZ = MIC
54321 = Hull Serial Number
E7 = Date of Certification of Manufacture
08 = Model Year
The letter “E” remains the month the boat was built however, the Coast Guard changed what each letter means. See the example below.
A = January
B = February
C = March
D = April
E = May
F = June
G = July
H = August
I = September
J = October
K = November
L = December
So know we know what a HIN stands for.

CRT31xxxI990

Please help me confirm I have this correct. The last four digits of my new to me 31 Cigarette is i990 (as in "i" not 1) That would be Date of certification Sept 9 and model year 1990. Kind of confusing where the i and 1 could be misunderstood since it is a 1990 boat. The "1" in 31 and i in i990 look the same on the HIN stamped on the back of the boat.
I'm assuming boat manufactures didn't follow the auto industry in not using i, o, and q


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