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Cigarette HIN
I am thinking at a new project, since it seems that the 36 is moving in a really near future, something smaller just for speed and fun and to keep been a member of teh cig family.
Can anyone give me an advice on how to decipher the HIn of cigarettes ? CRT is stating that is the real deal, then the model, then ? Last two numbers should be the year, am i right ? |
CRT38###D393 12 Characters CRT= Cigarette Racing Team US= made in the US 38 is the length ### = production number D= month it was made 3= model year 1993 93= made in 1993
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This may not be entirely correct, but most of it hould be....
CRT140011277 [CRT] cigarette racing team [14] length of boat [001]production number [12] month built [77] year built |
CRT38104L485 for example. Gigarette 38 length, 104 production number, L 12th month so its December, The numeral 4, 1984 year built, 85 model year. This is just an example. So that is the 104th 38 Cig manufactured in December of 1984 and is deemed a 1985 model. Newer cigs start w UST #'s
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I am looking at a 20 that ends with a 03....it's from the 80's, so it should be 73 or 83...definitely not 2003..
Can it be possible that old ones had a different scheme ? i understood that the numbers started in 1973 - late 1972, easy explanation could be that the seller made a mistake in the writing of it ... |
I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.
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The Hin i received is CRT 207202203
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Home » General Boat Information » Hull Identification Number – What does it mean?
On or after November 1st, 1972 every boat that was manufactured was and still is required to have a Hull Identification Number or HIN. The preferred location of the HIN is the starboard outboard side of the hull aft. The HIN is also located on the transom of a boat. The HIN is required by law to be located in 2 places of the boat, usualy the hull aft and the transom. Since 1972 The HIN is a series of alphanumeric characters which determine Manufacturer, Series, and Date of Certification. So what does it all mean? Example #1 of HIN Display before Auguist 1st, 1984: XYZ543211272 XYZ = Manufacturer’s ID Code or MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number 1272 = Date of Certification Example #2 of Display of HIN before August 1st, 1984 XYZ54321M73E XYZ = MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number M73E = Date of Certification On the second example, the letter “E” determines the month in which the boat was built. Below is what stands for what month: A = August B = September C = October D = November E = December F = January G = February H = March I = April J = May K = June L = July The format that we know today which has been default HIN Format since August 1st, 1984. The HIN is also required to be displayed on to locations of the vessel: the transom and a second location inside the boat beneath a fitting or item of hardware. this was done in the event a boat was stolen, the HIN would be removed from the transom and the second location of the HIN would help authorities identify the boats. Below is an example of what the current HIN Format is: Example: HIN Format after 1984 XYZ54321E708 XYZ = MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number E7 = Date of Certification of Manufacture 08 = Model Year The letter “E” remains the month the boat was built however, the Coast Guard changed what each letter means. See the example below. A = January B = February C = March D = April E = May F = June G = July H = August I = September J = October K = November L = December So know we know what a HIN stands for. |
Originally Posted by oceanperf
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I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.
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Seems that the hin is right, will have a photo of the transom, can it be 1983 ?
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This is the actual pic of the HIN in the transom. |
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An example of OEM work
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Boat looks like it's the real deal to me...Cannot understand those numbers, but i have found a plate of another cig 20 on a resto thread that has similar numbers..Should be a real 20 to me |
Looking for hull number 10 HIN CRT200001072 in the New jersey area. Thanks
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What do you Cig guys think of this hin ? Can it be a fake one ? From the pictures that i had of the boat it looks like a regular Cigarette 20, only in need of attention and tlc (lots)...
I hadn't been able to have a look at it but i believe it's a Genuine Cigarette |
why was it removed and broke
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Originally Posted by oceanperf
(Post 4287060)
I can tell you this much from 84 the 20's followed the same format as I described so if you post the entire number maybe I can shed some light on it.
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Originally Posted by Polcarif
(Post 4671233)
I have this crt33 with the HIN of crt330120182. It’s hard to find any information on these things. Would you know anything about this bunch of hulls history and why there were only a small amount made. Would love to see some pics! |
I’m working on it I need to make a few more posts before I can. I’m a new member |
I find that Cig 20 HIN to be a bit odd, it does not follow the older or newer methodology. Mine is CRT201161079. Model = 20, Number = 116, Date = 10/79. Could it have been restamped? Appears to be crooked, and some of the numbers are not level. Haven't seen anything like that
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Originally Posted by MF
(Post 4288515)
[ATTACH=CONFIG]539522[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539523[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539524[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539525[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]539526[/ATTACH]
Boat looks like it's the real deal to me...Cannot understand those numbers, but i have found a plate of another cig 20 on a resto thread that has similar numbers..Should be a real 20 to me Although, I have the same photo of the HIN plate you posted, from the owner of that boat. That particular boat is a 72, and I believe to be the actual first cig 20. That said, the HIN from the boat in question in this thread has an additional number. |
Originally Posted by Doug
(Post 4287314)
Home » General Boat Information » Hull Identification Number – What does it mean?
On or after November 1st, 1972 every boat that was manufactured was and still is required to have a Hull Identification Number or HIN. The preferred location of the HIN is the starboard outboard side of the hull aft. The HIN is also located on the transom of a boat. The HIN is required by law to be located in 2 places of the boat, usualy the hull aft and the transom. Since 1972 The HIN is a series of alphanumeric characters which determine Manufacturer, Series, and Date of Certification. So what does it all mean? Example #1 of HIN Display before Auguist 1st, 1984: XYZ543211272 XYZ = Manufacturer’s ID Code or MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number 1272 = Date of Certification Example #2 of Display of HIN before August 1st, 1984 XYZ54321M73E XYZ = MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number M73E = Date of Certification On the second example, the letter “E” determines the month in which the boat was built. Below is what stands for what month: A = August B = September C = October D = November E = December F = January G = February H = March I = April J = May K = June L = July The format that we know today which has been default HIN Format since August 1st, 1984. The HIN is also required to be displayed on to locations of the vessel: the transom and a second location inside the boat beneath a fitting or item of hardware. this was done in the event a boat was stolen, the HIN would be removed from the transom and the second location of the HIN would help authorities identify the boats. Below is an example of what the current HIN Format is: Example: HIN Format after 1984 XYZ54321E708 XYZ = MIC 54321 = Hull Serial Number E7 = Date of Certification of Manufacture 08 = Model Year The letter “E” remains the month the boat was built however, the Coast Guard changed what each letter means. See the example below. A = January B = February C = March D = April E = May F = June G = July H = August I = September J = October K = November L = December So know we know what a HIN stands for. Please help me confirm I have this correct. The last four digits of my new to me 31 Cigarette is i990 (as in "i" not 1) That would be Date of certification Sept 9 and model year 1990. Kind of confusing where the i and 1 could be misunderstood since it is a 1990 boat. The "1" in 31 and i in i990 look the same on the HIN stamped on the back of the boat. I'm assuming boat manufactures didn't follow the auto industry in not using i, o, and q |
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