39 Top Gun
 

Does anyone know way Skip would name the 39 a Top Gun when the 38 has always been the Top Gun? Why not maybe bring back the Bullet or even the Mistress? I think Bullet would have been awesome. I don't get it 39 unlimited.

Same boat but ones a standard and ones a stagger. Engine compartment just a hair longer, everything else up is the same boat.

Bullet was a 31 (they should've called the vice - bullet). Mistress was a 35 and they actually did bring back that name in the early 2000's for an updated 35.

True they brought back the Mistress after the terms of the "Playboy" contract ran out and they couldn't use the name any longer.

I've always thought the same thing about the Vice and the Mystique.

everybody calls them " those dam Cigar boats" anyway lol

A Stepped BULLET would be awesome. Don't change the hull EXCEPT for the bottom.... Do the usual interior upgrades....Lets see to it that CIGARETTE gets this message.

One of the main reason if not the main reason they stopped producing the Vice/ Mystique was it was not profitable with this size boat. Pretty much the same for the gladiator, hence why it's not produce anymore even though it is one of the customers favorite models. If the moneys not there it makes no sense.

Working on the boat last night and took a loooong beer break. While staring at the bolster seats and what to do to make them different and that same subject came up to step it. Think it would be a sweet ride. I don't Have the 20k to spend to do it but never know one day maybe.

Is someone putting steps in the old straight hulls?

That doesn't work well.


And as mike said, the cost recovery on the smaller boats just doesn't add up. It takes basically the same amount of labor to build a 30 vice as it does a larger more expensive model - rigging, cockpit equipment, motors/drives etc is all the same. Labor is basically the same. Only thing that costs less to build is fiberglass / raw material. The capped rail on the gladiator took a lot of man hours that was difficult to recover. So, smaller models are cool, but the market is smaller as well and the cost to net is rough.

Cigarette isn't going to build a boat shorter then the 38 anymore

Same cost to layup a 30 vs 38 and just as Tank said, no profit in it. The cost of the early 30, 35, 38 were all close, only big difference was the engine choices.

The Vice came standard with the 496, the 35s had 500efi and the 38's had a choice of the 500, 525sc and 575sc. Hull cost wasn't far off so they ditched the smaller boats.

I still don't understand why the would call two different boats the same. I do agree they are similar, however lot of difference in side by side and staggered .

I believe the "Top Gun" is the best selling model for Cigarette, period. You have to remember they have a international contingent as well. Keeping consistency is important for some of these attributes.

"Ford F-series, the best selling truck of all time."
Even though Chevrolet Silverado and GMC Sierra combined outsells Ford in every number comparison.
I know that's not a direct correlation, but it's related.

Besides, I don't think Cigarette produces too many 38 Top Guns anymore. It's mostly 39s.
There was also the 38 Top Gun GT for a while, which was a lighter optioned, less blingy version.

Pure speculation but suspect the 39 was designed to replace the 38. After introduction they realized how much cockpit space they lost and decided to keep the 38. The 39 is a great boat but five people is the crew limit without standing. The 42X has the same cockpit space as the 39. The 38 has at least 30% more cockpit room than both the 39 and 42X.

Aint that the truth!!! There is a distinct difference in cockpit space. On the other hand, having a staggered setup is 10 times easier to work on than side by sides!!

The staggers are nice to work on for sure. Was a little surprised that the 42X cockpit was no bigger than our 39. It might actually be slightly smaller with the QV4c power.

I was thinking the same thing about the 42 cockpit..... Next time I see a 42 at the dock, I will ask to look around for myself. I have only looked them over from a distance.

I couldn't believe how small the 42 Tiger Cockpit is compared to our 38. I felt cramped on the boat lol

Here's a couple pictures of our 2011 39 Top Gun and our new 42X for comparison

Better picture of the 42X cockpit

Is that extra 3 feet in the cabin or engine compartment?? Certainly not in the cockpit!!

Never would have thought that. I have from time to time had 5 in my 38 and was very uncomfortable, 4 is plenty.