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caseyh 04-01-2016 11:42 AM

Who knows this boat and the set up?
 
http://www.offshoreonly.com/classifi...-s-o65148.html

jmoore1225 04-01-2016 01:13 PM

Was asking around $180k on Facebook......

frickstyle 04-01-2016 02:11 PM

Nice ride, looks top notch. $180K pretty steep, though it prob needs nothing. I never realized how expensive these things were until I really got into them.

jmoore1225 04-01-2016 02:24 PM

Broker was getting beat up pretty bad about the price so he took it down.

LAriverratt 04-01-2016 02:31 PM

any other T/s guns running the scx4?

thisistank 04-01-2016 04:11 PM

:eek::eek:180?!


Kinda speechless.

frickstyle 04-02-2016 07:48 AM

Just to play devils advocate, what's a good number this would trade at? I'm really curious. It's a nice setup, and looks to be in extremely nice condition. Tank, where would you price this to sell?
$150.....? (that's still alot of money!) But, it does have SCX and really nice power. That's worth something over other comparable T/S Guns on the market that are asking as much with bravos and merc 525. This thing probably really cooks with 900 Zuls. 115-120mph? Does a Merc 700 boat run 110-115?

frickstyle 04-02-2016 07:49 AM


Originally Posted by LAriverratt (Post 4423579)
any other T/s guns running the scx4?

Yes, the guy out in OKC or LOTO? Forget his name, he's on here daily.

Unlimited jd 04-02-2016 08:13 AM

Quinlan I believe has them. seems like too much money, until you buy one and bring it up to that level. Unfortunately I could never justify that kind of money on a 15 year old bravo boat.

jbraun2828 04-02-2016 09:00 AM

This is the only one I've seen with -4 scx. I think quinlan's has regular scx's. 180k does seem high but not really out of line if you start looking at prices of other t/s guns with stock power. The prices of these boats keeps going up. I was going to selI mine but with market it would cost me so much to upgrade, I'm going to keep it and put whipples on it in the next year or two. Frick I think your pretty close with the 150 figure. That power and new drives has to be worth something.

frickstyle 04-02-2016 09:21 AM

Yes, I think $180 is close to what you would spend buying a 525 boat, then doing the upgrades, actually it's probably more than that. Problem is, and I'm in the same position with mine, no one is going to pay the full premium for all the upgraded hardware, and certainly not pay for the labor figure it took to get there. From what I have seen, buyers would pay about a 20% premium for upgraded equipment done the right way (a 525 original boat @ 125K vs. this boat at 150K) does that make any sense? But it costs about 50% to get it upgraded, improved, modified, whatever, 125K boat + upgrades = 187K. So you might get half back of what you put into it.....?

thisistank 04-02-2016 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4423782)
Just to play devils advocate, what's a good number this would trade at? I'm really curious. It's a nice setup, and looks to be in extremely nice condition. Tank, where would you price this to sell?
$150.....? (that's still alot of money!) But, it does have SCX and really nice power. That's worth something over other comparable T/S Guns on the market that are asking as much with bravos and merc 525. This thing probably really cooks with 900 Zuls. 115-120mph? Does a Merc 700 boat run 110-115?

Like anything custom, you RARELY see your money out of it. With that said, it's a sweet gun and even sweeter set up. From what I've been told by those in the know, those drives are very sturdy and as reliable as a SSM6 but with out the trans. As I've said before Richie builds an amazing motor that is as stout as it is reliable. (Buddy got over 400 hours out of his NA tunnel rammed 750 zuls before he decided to go through them). Obviously 180 is high market and the seller is trying to justify it with the set up. Will it work? Hope so for all you guys with TS guns ;) I presume guys like Tom (hot for teacher) is specifically interested and hopes it sells for 180 since he has a blown #6 TS gun. So, I say good luck. Awesome ride.

Oh, and I'm guessing 115 is what it'll do.

315duramax 04-02-2016 12:03 PM

thats gotta be a MOFO to get on plane with so much prop no in the water

cigrocket 04-02-2016 03:31 PM

I agree, getting that on plane must e tough. I have -1 on the playboy and 5 blades. I put a spacer back in. You do loose a little top end, but it is more usable

cigrocket 04-02-2016 03:35 PM

TS market hit a low a couple years ago. Ever since then, the market has been scarce and the prices have gone back up. You will also have to pay more for stuff that has been upgraded. Also, smart buyers want to buy graphics/paint/interior that is timeless and classy.

Got Cigs 04-03-2016 03:53 PM

Question..... Wouldn't the bigger diameter props make it easier to get on plane?

kennyd 04-04-2016 07:26 AM

My thoughts on price , I think its a fair price . we have been searching the web for 4 months to find 2 T/S guns in great condition , found 2 to purchase both brought 185 ish without trailers with 525 power . Yes they were a little newer BUT with only 525 power . the 900 zuls are major upgrade a lot of people don't want due to refresh time and speed , again the drives are awesome major upgrade in price . If my boat was sold I would be looking at it to buy at that piece . just my thoughts

Quinlan 04-04-2016 08:55 AM

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I have standard SCXs. They are 2" shorter then XRs. I had spacer added from Imco. We took out the spacer last winter and could Not maintain WP. I also have Stellings boxes.

As for the price thing- I have a whole hell of a lot more than $185 in mine. But it is all done right Finally. Will I even see Half of what I spent no. But when you want to Rock you better have some Roll.
I quoted a price for mine to some one and it was under 185. I am not ever sure I want to sell.

This thread needs some action lol- Have a Nice Day

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pm203 04-04-2016 04:39 PM

You get what you pay for. How much more is a quality piece worth? That's up to you. If you think that it is priced to high, don't buy it.

Unlimited jd 04-04-2016 07:03 PM

It's funny, I've seen a lot of talk lately of upgrades and aftermarket being worth more. I wish I was in your part of the country. I've had 5 customers in the last 2 years turn down beautiful boats because they did not have Mercury power. And in my opinion the boats they bought were borderline under powered but the motors were blue and that's all they would buy. And paid more for!

1MOSES1 04-04-2016 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4424674)
It's funny, I've seen a lot of talk lately of upgrades and aftermarket being worth more. I wish I was in your part of the country. I've had 5 customers in the last 2 years turn down beautiful boats because they did not have Mercury power. And in my opinion the boats they bought were borderline under powered but the motors were blue and that's all they would buy. And paid more for!

Wasn't me!!!!

pm203 04-04-2016 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4424674)
It's funny, I've seen a lot of talk lately of upgrades and aftermarket being worth more. I wish I was in your part of the country. I've had 5 customers in the last 2 years turn down beautiful boats because they did not have Mercury power. And in my opinion the boats they bought were borderline under powered but the motors were blue and that's all they would buy. And paid more for!

People around here are generally much more conservative. And,for good reason. With our very short season, they will sacrifice power for reliability. Anyone can repair a blue motor and parts are easily accessible. A Zul or Chief motor and the unknown scares them. BTW, I had a pair of 700 Zuls in a 40 Fountain and they were every bit as reliable as Mercury. But, to the average boater, Merc is the safe way to go.

frickstyle 04-05-2016 11:55 AM


Originally Posted by pm203 (Post 4424714)
People around here are generally much more conservative. And,for good reason. With our very short season, they will sacrifice power for reliability. Anyone can repair a blue motor and parts are easily accessible. A Zul or Chief motor and the unknown scares them. BTW, I had a pair of 700 Zuls in a 40 Fountain and they were every bit as reliable as Mercury. But, to the average boater, Merc is the safe way to go.

Alot of truth in that statement.

Also, it's like buying a stock diesel truck versus one that has exhaust and tuner, etc. Sometimes the stock unit is more desirable because it is a known quantity. / unmolested.


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