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jsbrowni 09-22-2016 03:00 PM

41 Apache vs. 42 Cigarette?
 
What are the differences between 41 Apache vs. 42 Cigarette? Are the dimensions and layout of the lower hull the same or similar?

ben 09-22-2016 03:19 PM

:food-smiley-007:

VoodooRob 09-22-2016 03:47 PM

It is the first day of fall, here we go...

cigrocket 09-22-2016 03:57 PM

Might have well asked? What kind of oil to run, Do they use custom ground cams and should I tow one with a single axle truck?

caseyh 09-22-2016 05:10 PM

Dar

thisistank 09-22-2016 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by caseyh (Post 4484146)
Dar

Member since 09? Doubt it.


I've always said the 41 Apache and 42 cig are sister boats. The Revolution hull was the predecessor for the tiger and was the inspiration behind the 41 Apache.

I'd say the biggest difference between the two is that the Apache will have more structural support (more resin) and more bulk heads. I've been in both. They feel basically the same running in decent water.

The Tigers can be had for reasonable money. The apaches are over priced (in my opinion - don't throw sh*t at me Apache fanatics)

Id be extatic to own either and wouldn't worry about running in any "runnable" water.

jsbrowni 09-23-2016 06:14 AM

LOL, as I was typing the OP I thought my question seems Darr'ish. I'm not buying one anytime soon, i have my hands full with current projects, just curious and don't remember seeing this particular discussion.
Shawn

baywatch 09-23-2016 06:46 AM

Tank nailed it with his comment. Accept for being overpriced as I can think of a few 41's that have sold recently for sub $90k where comparably powered Tigers seem to bring the same money. You always have outliers but the reasonable people that actually want to sell eventually get realistic with pricing.

This weekend marks 10 years we have had our 36' (dammed 41's with raised deck) and couldn't be happier with it. The fact that it is 21 years old and has 700+ hours on it says something about the build quality of these older straight bottomed boats.

Cig and Apache have same bloodlines as the Apache is just a stretched 39' squadron (at least that's how I remember the original story). 41'+ is that sweet spot where the length of the boat is enough that the length spans the waves/swells.


I'd also be happy to own either but like the history that goes with
Apaches and will always have one in my stable.


(Not sure if link will work but here is an old link with Mr. saccenti's quick version of Apache history and explains Don's/cigs involvement in original molds).
http://teamspeed.com/forums/performa...che-hulls.html

beckmwi 09-23-2016 07:20 AM

41 Apache has the same full forward entry on the hull as a 35/38 Cigarette. 42 Cigarette has a much more "pointy" forward entry. (shared with the 46 and 50 cigarette). Most 41 Apaches are Kevlar, most 42 cigarettes are fiberglass.

twinscrews 10-15-2016 08:01 AM

Good read, thanks for sharing.

Originally Posted by baywatch (Post 4484295)
Tank nailed it with his comment. Accept for being overpriced as I can think of a few 41's that have sold recently for sub $90k where comparably powered Tigers seem to bring the same money. You always have outliers but the reasonable people that actually want to sell eventually get realistic with pricing.

This weekend marks 10 years we have had our 36' (dammed 41's with raised deck) and couldn't be happier with it. The fact that it is 21 years old and has 700+ hours on it says something about the build quality of these older straight bottomed boats.

Cig and Apache have same bloodlines as the Apache is just a stretched 39' squadron (at least that's how I remember the original story). 41'+ is that sweet spot where the length of the boat is enough that the length spans the waves/swells.


I'd also be happy to own either but like the history that goes with
Apaches and will always have one in my stable.


(Not sure if link will work but here is an old link with Mr. saccenti's quick version of Apache history and explains Don's/cigs involvement in original molds).
http://teamspeed.com/forums/performa...che-hulls.html



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