there’s a reason why everyone is buying outboards. fuel, oil, turn the key, and go…

you forgot the last reason…their f*ckin’ soft! Lol just kidding.

I’m in a unique position to be able to handle the potential headaches of big power (an amazing marine mechanic son in law). I’ve always wanted a big power #6 boat. We’ll buy one, run it for a few seasons. If it completely sucks, we’ll sell it and buy a 525 TS gun or maybe a gladiator and a freakin pontoon or small CC. Who knows.

Our boating style has changed too. We have family and friends in havasu. A broken boat won’t ruin a trip. We’ll just jump on someone else’s boat or hang out with family. Even the one time we towed the cafe up to this cool lake north of us and one motor kept throwing a code, we just idled on one more to a bay, threw an anchor and swam and partied all day. And if it breaks down out here in the ocean? Oh well, we’ll go sit on the beach in front of the house and drink and I’ll get it . fixed later. It’s all what you make of it I don’t get stressed out about that crap anymore 😁👍

I agree with Dan, however boating to some is more than just being on the water, it also a hobby. Constant updates, discussing changes with others and just getting on here and meeting others. I am fortunate and also have two boats so I still can get out when I want. However as Tank said life is short so why stress, enjoy what you have and if it breaks, fix it when you can, don’t loose sight of the fun you can still have with family and friends.

That's what its all about boys. Just have a good time and enjoy those around you. When life gives you lemons find someone else that life gave tequila to and have a party.

Ya I get all those points.. so that being said Ive missed driving the cig . It`s definitely something to be behind the wheel eating up the lake vs getting bounced around on the 24' jet boat .
It gets a ton of attention vs the jet boat that`s for sure . :drink:



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Looks like your wait is over!! Lock & Load:
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Schwing!!

I like how he says "over $500k invested in this boat"....money spent on a boat is never an investment!!

That's the ticket right there Tank.....I have to say if I wasn't so balls deep in mine that is one of a few boats I would be extremely interested in (with my limited budget)

Wow, lock n load, spider boat, hot for teacher, fricks gun all for sale!

Yea there are some good ones ! I’m interested in what these older boats listed at bigger money will bring. Running with the devil is a sweet rig !

Where is hot for teacher listed?

I meant running with the devil sorry

market is dead…ask me how I know.

Yea it has dried up. I have seen a few nice redone boats sell. It’s so hard to find places to do any work anymore I’d assume the mid 90s early 2000s that need updates and restoring are going to sit longer these days I could be wrong just a thought. On the flip side the new boats are so expense a fully redone updated boat that is nice prolly could be worth 150k

fair assessment. The restored boats that are up for sale are about $.50 / $1.00 for a” new “ boat. Depending on the extent of the work. That’s a good deal. Plus the 2-3 year wait.

I’m referring to boats with new wood, updates and new fuel tanks, holding tanks, plumbing, etc in them, not re-paints.

Yea. I think a new topgun is like 800k. I have o intrest in selling mine but I would think since there was wasn’t a screw or wire that wasn’t replaced and being new wood , wiring, plumbing, new tanks, new interior, all new electronics and the list goes on when I sit and look at it the boat is new from front to back I guess I wouldn’t take less then 200k. I mean yea someone has to want it and be willing to pay but it’s better then 800k for a new one. There are some nice builds out the there for sure !

old flat bottom cig’s are a tough sell no matter the condition or upgrades…

1. they are old so financing is non-existent
2. they are old so insurance is hard to find
3. cost of capital is expensive…int rates are high!!!
4. anyone who has the capital will opt for a newer ts

I should have sold 2 years ago…

Been that way for 10 years. Narrow market for sure.

I see that on a LOT of the older sport boats, some that seem a good price still sit for years.

And yes running with the devil is a LOT of hardware for the price. Looks very clean.

past 3 years has been good…people were pulling home equities left, right, and center. cheap money increased demand…fed have slowly killed it.

Lots of people say outboards have or will kill the traditional offshore powerboat ( big I/O engines/H.P.) but unless there's a bunch of cash buyers out there financing and insurance is the demise.

I said when selling our cafe that it’s a working man’s boat. 70-80k market people were yanking money out of their homes or getting other creative loans at low interest. That’s done now. Interest rate is too high. Like said above, most guys that have cash around 100 could up it a bit and get into a twin step.
not to mention anything above a 2000 is easier to finance and insure.

RWD is in great shape and a cool boat. I still think asking is too high especially since the trailer will need to be gone though. For the same price as RWD you could get a nice TS gun with more reliable power. Not sixes but still…

the buyer pool for performance boats is already a fraction of the boating population. From that, the amount of people like me looking for big power #6 cigarettes is so small it’s almost non existent. Just not that many people on the planet (maybe a handful) that can and want to deal with these specific boats.

just as many people looking as there are #6 top gun boats…. Lol. Gott luck in the search brotha!

You can its just not nearly as cool.... Buy a #6 boat and CC with eggbeaters problem solved.

Lock and load! Lol

I know you want a Cig & 6s but for the money, I'd look hard at the OL Stiletto at American Custom Marine. Seems like a lot of boat for 105k.

That is nice, loud. How did they run seems they did side by sides, stags and triples in them. Always wondered there are a few that come up and are priced a little more for the working guys.

I have a friend out a Lot that was going to look at RWD, why do you guys feel that is over priced? If it's as clean as the pictures show with dry sump 6's. I mean that is asking price. What do you think a fair price would be?

Trailer is a issue though, we are in salt down here.

Just saw this big power 6s and a condo underneath. Again not a cig but a lot of boat for the $$.


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Cobra power would be enough for me to stay away

That one spent many years on Ky Lake. It was always taken great care of and sounded amazing!!! Theres a few videos out there of it running on the water,

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I agree with you on that, this must have been their finer work. Cobra built the power for Sonic when the boat was commissioned in 2003, had a few other builders refresh it over time. Not sure if its the extended platform or what, but its always been my favorite sounding boat when it was on KY lake.

Really? Where was it? I guess I didn’t spend much time there after 2000ish. Kenny Sprag had a white 45 with triples in the 90s on Kentucky lake.

I believe that was Randy Travis's boat. I would normally see it over in the Moors area.

That's right, but not the country singer ha! He had it from 2004-2019'ish

I’d get a TS or straight tiger all day before that sonic. That’s just me.

I agree.

I just saw the big power and 6s and it looks like a lot of boat for the money.

I’m all over the map. Now I’m looking at 39’s and 42x’s. Lol 😂😂🤦‍♂️

I actually wouldn’t mind grabbing one of the center steer 39’s. That one in Europe is nice (after you repaint the “honey badger” BS lettering. Lol

Dude, the center stear would be sweet, super rare

There must be some updates here Tank ! Any new prospects? Youve been quiet for a bit......:party-smiley-004: