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musthave1 01-28-2020 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4723336)
At least you have the skill to do all this. That's what it's gonna take being way out there. Looking forward to the progress.

Not quite. To be honest, I´ve never rebuild an engine like this, I will need some help here.
Besides knowledge I lack tools, starting at cero in this country, even had to fly the spark plug tool in :picard1:

Stuckonstupid 01-29-2020 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4723392)
I talked to the original former owner once. Nice old fella, but his memory fading, he couldn´t answer all my questions. He bought the engine blocks from Shafiroff and assembled them himself, had the piston domes machined to lower compression and chose a mild cam.
Not sure why anybody would choose a drag engine for a boat, but hey, still happy to have some beefy irons under the hood. They should be 6-7 years old and under 50 hours.
Need some more detective work to identify the Edelbrocks (they have rectangular ports) and the cams. Unfortunately I don´t have any specs on them and either on the ignition timing.

No dyno in this country. I wonder how many hp, any wild guesses?

Scott Shafiroff built a 548” for my old velocity and it was a super solid motor, and to my knowledge is still going strong. He is very approachable, I’d suggest calling him to verify what you have.

musthave1 01-29-2020 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by Stuckonstupid (Post 4723438)
Scott Shafiroff built a 548” for my old velocity and it was a super solid motor, and to my knowledge is still going strong. He is very approachable, I’d suggest calling him to verify what you have.

Good idea, will call him. Former owner told me he dealt with Vinnie, maybe you know him too.

Stuckonstupid 01-29-2020 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4723468)
Good idea, will call him. Former owner told me he dealt with Vinnie, maybe you know him too.

Vinny Budano is either part owner or Scott’s right hand man, never tried to figure it out, but he’s also a very approachable guy.

hogie roll 01-29-2020 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4723392)
i talked to the original former owner once. Nice old fella, but his memory fading, he couldn´t answer all my questions. He bought the engine blocks from shafiroff and assembled them himself, had the piston domes machined to lower compression and chose a mild cam.
Not sure why anybody would choose a drag engine for a boat, but hey, still happy to have some beefy irons under the hood. They should be 6-7 years old and under 50 hours.
Need some more detective work to identify the edelbrocks (they have rectangular ports) and the cams. Unfortunately i don´t have any specs on them and either on the ignition timing.

No dyno in this country. I wonder how many hp, any wild guesses?

600-650.

musthave1 03-23-2020 07:44 AM

Not much progress on the boat but had a crane build to pull the engines and managed to get the spare engine block to my workshop. Found a local mechanic to help me. Just when we wanted to start Malaysia went into full lockdown because of the coronavirus and I had to abandon my workshop. Before leaving I tossed some parts into my car so I have something to do at home. We have a lot of time now here, everything is closed and we are not allowed to leave home except for groceries (only one person at a time, police and military patrolling the streets).
So I disassembled the Harding water pumps, found broken impeller and corrosion. I really have to inspect every single piece of my boat, because every time I do, I find that it has to be serviced or repaired.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d2224134b6.jpg
Photo is misleading, crane is only 2 ft higher than the arch and not that skinny
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...edc4d5091f.jpg
Hardin 2 Stage Sea Water Pump
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...72d2bb86ab.jpg
in pieces
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a587a65503.jpg
this is what you get when saltwater sits for months without flushing
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2a04772b10.jpg
some steering parts
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...db80fdb603.jpg
hours of hand polishing
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1422a8b4de.jpg
4 days of curfew later
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...84e8a1738e.jpg
the propeller still need a lot of work



seafordguy 03-23-2020 08:25 AM

Nice crane - is that a harbor freight trolley? I have the exact same one.......

musthave1 03-23-2020 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4730472)
Nice crane - is that a harbor freight trolley? I have the exact same one.......

It´s from Akita/Japan and true, looks exactly the same. But who knows who´s really making them.

musthave1 04-04-2020 08:55 PM

Still locked in at home, so I did some more cleaning. Starboard carburetor this time, lots of dirt and grime as usual. But somehow satisfying to see that there is a reason why the engines didn’t start (well, stbd is seized now anyway).
Can’t wait to put everything back in.




https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...133538d6a.jpeg
Carburetor cleaning, again
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...357e903d1.jpeg
Seller wondered why engine wouldn’t start
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3a135fff6.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4386a4932.jpeg
All cleaned up
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ea303627f.jpeg

rak rua 04-04-2020 09:31 PM

I think the lockdown will continue for quite a while but that will mean plenty of time for tinkering with smaller items. Wish I had a project sitting here to work on, lockdown life is getting boring........

RR

musthave1 04-04-2020 09:52 PM

Right, I’m happy that I grabbed some parts in the last moment so I have something to do while I cannot go to the boat. Not much of an accomplishment but better than nothing.
But even as I try to do everything as thoroughly as possible, soon I’ll be running out of things to do.
Trying to buy some spare parts online for the water pumps, but looks like both here and in the States there are delays. Well, I have time, will give it a try.

Moses 04-05-2020 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4732307)
Right, I’m happy that I grabbed some parts in the last moment so I have something to do while I cannot go to the boat. Not much of an accomplishment but better than nothing.
But even as I try to do everything as thoroughly as possible, soon I’ll be running out of things to do.
Trying to buy some spare parts online for the water pumps, but looks like both here and in the States there are delays. Well, I have time, will give it a try.

can’t wait to see the continued progress. Congrats on Beautiful Cig. You have to keep posting pics. Vegas is locked down as well so knocking out a few projects in my boat as well. Wish it was a TG, some day I’ll make the switch😁

musthave1 04-05-2020 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by Moses (Post 4732384)
can’t wait to see the continued progress. Congrats on Beautiful Cig. You have to keep posting pics. Vegas is locked down as well so knocking out a few projects in my boat as well. Wish it was a TG, some day I’ll make the switch😁

Thanks man, and I thought people are already annoyed by me posting dirty engine parts.
Good luck with the lock down, it’s boring and makes people wash tailpipes on the balcony and posting photos of it :picard1:

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac7363b52.jpeg


rak rua 04-05-2020 06:51 PM

Lockdown or no lockdown, ocean views are never boring. :)

Smoke eater 04-05-2020 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4732396)
Lockdown or no lockdown, ocean views are never boring. :)

So very true!!! I’d kill for some big water views!!!

musthave1 05-26-2020 07:35 PM

After two months of lock down I could finally go back to my boat and continue working.
Man, that engine hatch is heavy, but taking it off was a piece of cake with the new crane
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0bc054815.jpeg

musthave1 05-26-2020 07:51 PM

Help me identify my drives, did some scratching (again) and found the serial numbers.


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...26ad88d92.jpeg

Somebody can decode it or have a link for me?

Is that B576241 or is it an 8?
I thought up to 1984 it was 7 digits and after that 8 characters starting with a number, then a letter, then 6 more numbers, such as '0F456123'.

The other one seems to be B576140




https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...50bd3e62c.jpeg



seafordguy 05-26-2020 08:04 PM

I've got to tell you we really take for granted how easy we have it. Just today I ordered intake manifold gaskets and a SS fitting from Hardin and will have both in a day or two. It would be so frustrating to be in your position, waiting on parts, dealing with availability, access, etc. I admire you patience and drive.


rak rua 05-26-2020 08:24 PM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4740831)
After two months of lock down I could finally go back to my boat and continue working.
Man, that engine hatch is heavy, but taking it off was a piece of cake with the new crane
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0bc054815.jpeg

When you went in to lockdown for 2 months, did you shut one of the local workers inside the shed with some polish and a bag of clean rags? Looking pretty darn clean. :)

musthave1 05-26-2020 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by rak rua (Post 4740841)
When you went in to lockdown for 2 months, did you shut one of the local workers inside the shed with some polish and a bag of clean rags? Looking pretty darn clean. :)

haha, you know the locals, they take two months of vacation and when they have a chance to get back to work and make some money, they disappear. Like my mechanic who was supposed to come but he didn’t and is offline now. I need him for pulling the engines.

And yeah, shiny, isn’t it? A lot of elbow grease by yours truly
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...accba5c33.jpeg



musthave1 05-26-2020 11:09 PM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4740839)
I've got to tell you we really take for granted how easy we have it. Just today I ordered intake manifold gaskets and a SS fitting from Hardin and will have both in a day or two. It would be so frustrating to be in your position, waiting on parts, dealing with availability, access, etc. I admire you patience and drive.

thanks Seafordguy, actually right now it’s ok as the project will take months, if not years to finish. So I’m taking things apart, inspect and clean them, then I order spare parts and refurbishing kits and have all send to a warehouse in Miami where it’s consolidated and then send to me when I tell them. With customs clearance and all it takes a month or two.
Problem will be one day in a far future when I urgently need something for a day on the water and have to wait that long.


Rhythm and Blues 05-26-2020 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4740873)
thanks Seafordguy, actually right now it’s ok as the project will take months, if not years to finish. So I’m taking things apart, inspect and clean them, then I order spare parts and refurbishing kits and have all send to a warehouse in Miami where it’s consolidated and then send to me when I tell them. With customs clearance and all it takes a month or two.
Problem will be one day in a far future when I urgently need something for a day on the water and have to wait that long.

Sheesh, it’ll be like painting the Golden Gate Bridge, just when you get it done you’ll have to go back to where you started.....

musthave1 05-26-2020 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Rhythm and Blues (Post 4740874)
Sheesh, it’ll be like painting the Golden Gate Bridge, just when you get it done you’ll have to go back to where you started.....

Isn’t it always like that when you have a boat? :drink:

musthave1 06-11-2020 05:05 AM

I wronged my mechanic calling him lazy when in fact he passed away last week.
That’s a shame, this funny little guy was a great help and he could reach parts of the bilge I’m just too big for. Also the only one I know who had experience with gasoline inboards as they are so rare here.

So I’m on my own now and have to see how to get the engines out. Thinking of making two plates which will attach to the marked points with an eye on top for the hook. Don’t want to ruin the aluminum heads.
Good idea or not?

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...806b5d83a.jpeg



fandango 06-11-2020 08:30 AM

How about 4 - 6" long bolt in front port exhaust bolt hole and one in back starboard exhaust bolt hole. Then use a lifting strap with two eye ends (one on each bolt) and lift. Make sure lifting strap will hold weight.

musthave1 06-11-2020 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by fandango (Post 4743104)
How about 4 - 6" long bolt in front port exhaust bolt hole and one in back starboard exhaust bolt hole. Then use a lifting strap with two eye ends (one on each bolt) and lift. Make sure lifting strap will hold weight.

I’ve seen photos were it’s done as you suggest but I’m a little wary of putting all the weight on the heads as they are aluminum. Or isn’t that a problem?

F-2 Speedy 06-11-2020 09:12 AM

This is what I made, locate the eyelets on opposite front and rear corners of the heads, dont worry about the aluminum heads if you are pulling straight up with the 3 bolts attached to the lifting eye

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...6e51f25f40.jpg

musthave1 06-11-2020 09:48 AM

Nice! Will try it out, seems to be straight forward. Thanks!

musthave1 06-18-2020 06:01 AM

Followed your advice


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...403710e57.jpeg

seafordguy 06-18-2020 07:10 AM

I've always lifted mine by the aluminum intake manifolds.....

Mine have the typical lifting eyes attacked to the two port/front and two starboard/rear intake bolts

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...38962652c.jpeg

musthave1 06-18-2020 08:23 AM

Port engine coming out


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...573abe253.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9579cbcda.jpeg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ba04a42a0.jpeg

musthave1 06-18-2020 08:35 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3015bf8ab.jpeg
I thought it would be worse

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0ad0aa027.jpeg
All red cables, that will be fun
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...c4a0d6f6c.jpeg

Smoke eater 06-18-2020 09:35 AM

Looks like your making some decent progress.

hogie roll 06-18-2020 09:58 AM

Any info from shafiroff on the heads or cams that went into this combo? Might be some nice stuff based on the fact that there is a dominator on top.

seafordguy 06-18-2020 10:55 AM

Smart thinking on the box to catch the chain. I always battle a bad combination of rags, sweatshirts and paper towels that get Tangled in the chain.....

musthave1 06-19-2020 12:54 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4744152)
Any info from shafiroff on the heads or cams that went into this combo? Might be some nice stuff based on the fact that there is a dominator on top.

The former owner assembled the engines, only the block came from Shafiroff, so they wouldn’t know. The heads are Edelbrock 6155 and the cams are Crane.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a7c63fee6.jpeg

musthave1 06-19-2020 12:56 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4744163)
Smart thinking on the box to catch the chain. I always battle a bad combination of rags, sweatshirts and paper towels that get Tangled in the chain.....

😄 I can imagine.
The chain is way too long, still struggling with the box.

Rhythm and Blues 06-19-2020 01:42 AM

Nice progress!

hogie roll 06-19-2020 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by musthave1 (Post 4744267)
The former owner assembled the engines, only the block came from Shafiroff, so they wouldn’t know. The heads are Edelbrock 6155 and the cams are Crane.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...a7c63fee6.jpeg

Ah. That’s what I suspected.

Crane PN? 741?

musthave1 06-19-2020 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4744296)
Ah. That’s what I suspected.

Crane PN? 741?

Don’t know yet. Hope to find out when I open the seized starboard engine.


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