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ICDEDPPL 11-23-2020 10:45 AM

Carpe Diem getting some Whiples.
 
Had em polished and repainted and put in boat this weekend.
Can`t decide if I like the look. They are low, 5" lower than the 1071`s with TBS and flame arrestor .

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SecondWind 11-23-2020 10:57 AM

They look tough! 🍻

speicher lane 11-23-2020 11:33 AM

Definitely prefer the Whipple look... but if it's not enough go Quad Rotors

Smoke eater 11-23-2020 11:38 AM

I’m digging them. They look awesome! 🍻

F-2 Speedy 11-23-2020 11:41 AM

Black whipples matter

abones 11-23-2020 12:20 PM

They look great! Performance is going to be amazing..
Can't wait to see how well they perform.
Congrats!

IGetWet 11-23-2020 12:33 PM

Looking good! The white and red match perfectly. But now the crappy part is waiting all winter to run them.

thisistank 11-23-2020 12:39 PM

Sick!!!

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2020 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4766547)
Looking good! The white and red match perfectly. But now the crappy part is waiting all winter to run them.

Thanx!
That`s what I was going for , had the bolts powdercoated to match cause I`m nerdy like that :D

ICDEDPPL 11-23-2020 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4766538)
Definitely prefer the Whipple look... but if it's not enough go Quad Rotors

OH man do I love the look of the quads.

So hot!



https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9e7cdb2713.jpg

Quinlan 11-24-2020 05:17 AM

NIce. Mine are going on this winter also :bananalove:

Got Cigs 11-24-2020 11:11 AM

Looks great! I like the white/red too, its different.

btr_chicago 11-24-2020 06:06 PM

Great looking motors. Saw the post on your Instagram. Can't wait to see it next time on the water !

hogie roll 11-24-2020 06:18 PM

How much boost are you planning on? Same as before or match IAT?

ICDEDPPL 11-24-2020 08:37 PM

(BTR chicago) Who dis? :D

Hogie, I`m trying to run the same boost or maybe a bit more (8-9lbs)
Trying to figure out what pulleys and belts I need now.
Whipple says run it 1-1 but that seems low to me . I was 4% over on the Roots .. I`m thinking Whipples need more rpm but I don`t have a starting point .. maybe I`ll try 10% over and go from there.



btr_chicago 11-24-2020 09:15 PM

I am friend of Brandon ( Panty Dropper), Shawn (Without Permission Top Gun) and Jimmy (Sonic).
I have Formula Fastech. We meet briefly few times this summer. My Instagram is Home and project.

1Zoom 11-25-2020 06:19 PM

Looks awesome, I really like the hi tech modern look of them in white with the red. You followed the theme throughout your boat the attention to detail really shows. :Score-101010:

bws 11-26-2020 02:43 PM

Please tell me that you figured out a way to keep the "Surge" button functional, with this setup. That button was fricken cool on your last project!

hogie roll 11-26-2020 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by bws (Post 4767013)
Please tell me that you figured out a way to keep the "Surge" button functional, with this setup. That button was fricken cool on your last project!

Theres an integrated IAC he could maybe turn off.

b18cls1 11-27-2020 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by bws (Post 4767013)
Please tell me that you figured out a way to keep the "Surge" button functional, with this setup. That button was fricken cool on your last project!


it will be harder to get the roll with the whipple because of the bypass but that button changed how the idle stabilization pid control was handled in the ecu. It will be possible If keep if he wants to.

ICDEDPPL 11-27-2020 10:32 AM

The surge button added 15* of timing but pretty much anything could make the roots surge.
I`ll see how different the whipple is.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imC8...ature=youtu.be

b18cls1 11-27-2020 11:25 AM

Yea when you added 15* it idles up and then the iac pids react and then the timing oscillation starts to compensate and then it starts it’s roll.

kreed 11-30-2020 01:41 PM

Hard to beat the look of the old school blowers, but I think with all the cool updates you did to this Flat Deck, the Whipples fit right in. They look great. Have you hit 100 MPH yet? Gotta be damn close.

ICDEDPPL 11-30-2020 08:46 PM

94 was my best but more like 89 in the summer heat and 92 everyday with cooler weather loaded with gear and fuel.

I really enjoy ordering parts and putting things together , I hate that starting and testing part that`s where all the frustrating stuff comes in.
maybe I`ll just look at it all summer instead :noevil:

got the throttles figured out (opposite side than carbs and push/pull not pull/push) and my fuel system is done .


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b15033d39e.jpg
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gonna need to put the flame arrestor on them 3000cfm throttle bodies, they look like they could swallow small animals.

flat rate 11-30-2020 09:38 PM

so not hoping to sound stupid but i havnt had but one set of MILD blower engines. But i have some ignorant N/A 540s and we need timing to strengthen the idle in gear quality.this is not at all questioning anything. why does the advance of timing at idle make it surge? is it manifold vacuum? btw id love to have that switch!

b18cls1 12-01-2020 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 4767461)
so not hoping to sound stupid but i havnt had but one set of MILD blower engines. But i have some ignorant N/A 540s and we need timing to strengthen the idle in gear quality.this is not at all questioning anything. why does the advance of timing at idle make it surge? is it manifold vacuum? btw id love to have that switch!

Let’s say idle rpm target is 700. when you add timing it will add power which will raise rpm. So now rpm is raised to say it goes to 850 so now the ecu tries to get the rpm back down to 700 so it pulls the timing back out and the rpm drops down then it will undershoot and go low so it will add it back and it will start a ossilation and rpm roll. Tie that to the iac doing the same thing and a little on the lean side of fuel and it will roll.

F-2 Speedy 12-01-2020 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4767455)
94 was my best but more like 89 in the summer heat and 92 everyday with cooler weather loaded with gear and fuel.

I really enjoy ordering parts and putting things together , I hate that starting and testing part that`s where all the frustrating stuff comes in.
maybe I`ll just look at it all summer instead :noevil:

got the throttles figured out (opposite side than carbs and push/pull not pull/push) and my fuel system is done .


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...b15033d39e.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f16e3d3035.jpg




gonna need to put the flame arrestor on them 3000cfm throttle bodies, they look like they could swallow small animals.

mine have filter screens over the TB's did yours not come with them ? looks good

ICDEDPPL 12-01-2020 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by flat rate (Post 4767461)
so not hoping to sound stupid but i havnt had but one set of MILD blower engines. But i have some ignorant N/A 540s and we need timing to strengthen the idle in gear quality.this is not at all questioning anything. why does the advance of timing at idle make it surge? is it manifold vacuum? btw id love to have that switch!

Exactly like B18cls said .

You can watch the timing in yellow and next to it is the Iac count .:



Ken , I have the flame arrestors .

1Zoom 12-01-2020 12:26 PM

It looks great. If you need any parts made up or machined I would be happy to help you out if I can. Let me know I appreciated your help when I needed a couple of switches.

ICDEDPPL 12-01-2020 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by 1Zoom (Post 4767515)
It looks great. If you need any parts made up or machined I would be happy to help you out if I can. Let me know I appreciated your help when I needed a couple of switches.

I had that IAC mount machined ...I couldn`t find your number dammit.
But will keep you in mind , there`s custom stuff I always need, thank you !

ICDEDPPL 12-10-2020 07:27 PM

Got some new jewelry for the Whipples.

Before :


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...62ddd8d5dd.jpg
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ICDEDPPL 12-10-2020 07:30 PM

Breathers can`t go in the back of the blowers anymore so they got powdercoated and remote mounted :


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d306552e7a.jpg
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frickstyle 12-11-2020 06:47 AM

Wow - looking real great Dan!!!

thisistank 12-11-2020 10:14 AM

DAMN, that's puuuuuuuurdy

Smoke eater 12-13-2020 02:14 PM

Man that looks awesome!!!! Great job

Quinlan 12-14-2020 05:57 AM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4768884)

Great idea! I was wondering what I was going to do with those on mine as I didnt think they would fit back either. Thank you


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