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2002 35 TS at TNT in Miami
Guys,
I have always said that one day I would own a Cigarette and it looks like I may be making that dream a reality finally! what's everyone's thoughts on this 2002 35 TS that TNT in Miami has listed? https://www.boattrader.com/boat/2002...35-ts-7976356/ I believe this may have belonged to a member on here by the screen name of H20 Toi at some point. If so, would love to hear from you on it as well! Talked to sales at TNT on it and owner supposedly has all receipts for engines and drives and boat is supposed to be brought down to TNT in Miami in a week or so. So first questions I have are: 1) is this an actual Playboy edition or is it a mistress? Don't have HIN yet so cant figure it out by that just yet. 2) Motors were originally HP 500's and Innovation in Sarasota rebuilt them to 650's. Has anyone dealt with Innovation on motor jobs like this? I've heard of them but that's about it. they seem to have a decent reputation from what I have heard. Im guessing with the power thats in it, it should cruise pretty easy at around 60-65mph? Looks like GPS recall in one pic says 90.4 MPH which i would think would be possible in it since from what I have read, with stock 500's they seemed to run mid 80's pretty easy. As for the boat being 35', we are on inland lake, Lake Lanier in GA so it will mostly be a lake boat with possibly an occasional trip to coast for poker run. Our last 35' go fast was a Formula 353 Fastec and I am assuming the ride in this one will be similar to that? I know some will say go for the 38 top gun but my reasoning for thinking about this one is it will fit our lift better, little lighter weight which helps lift and tow ability, etc. Any thoughts and input from your cig gurus would definatley be helpful on this! |
Like you said, Dan owned it for a bunch of years. He's buddies with the current owner as well. Thing has been well cared for. PM Dan h20toie, he'll tell you everything about it.
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I have had multiple motors done at Innovation. There are alot of EX Merc guys there and they know what they are doing. Potter is even back there doing development last time I was there. When you get motor back it looks like it left the Merc Factory. Highly recommend them.
Ed |
Originally Posted by fandango
(Post 4802219)
I have had multiple motors done at Innovation. There are alot of EX Merc guys there and they know what they are doing. Potter is even back there doing development last time I was there. When you get motor back it looks like it left the Merc Factory. Highly recommend them.
Ed |
Boy do I know the history on this one, probably the only one that I actually know more about than Tank
History of Heat Her Up ( I put the name on it ) its considered a 35 Playboy even thou it doesn't have any playboy emblems. in 2003 they were called Mistress Total of 12 were made TS 35. Couple of them have been destroyed, I believe only 4 had Playboy emblems First owner was Gary (Back then he was Cig dealer in the Oklahoma/texas area) had it built for one of the boat shows out there and then kept at his house at Grand Lake I bought it with almost 40 hours on it, 500EFI motors, it did 85 on a good day. I had it for four years. only reason I sold it was I had a bad car accident and broke my back, thought my boating days were over. Sold it to Bob Perette in Boston, His company designs and makes boats for the Military, I thought I was anal about keeping the boat clean, he is on a whole new level. since they can't boat in the winter he and other friends with boats kept them in a heated storage unit and would just go hang out and go over the boats during the winter, He is the one that sent the motors to Innovation, He was having some heath issues so sold the boat to a friend of his Kevin, Kevin is the one that has it now, also lives in Boston Since every one always wants to compare 35 to 38 The 35 Is actually 35'10" and the 38 is not quite 38' for really only foot and a half difference from the windscreen back they are the same, the cabin is the same. deck is shorter The 35 does not have the cleats half way up the deck like the 38 does ( except the 2003 35 I saw at Loto this year did have them) 35 gets on plane way better than any 38 I have been in ( 35's don't have the notch in the bottom like a 38) 35 has smaller fuel tanks. It runs out at 70 gallons a side ( don't need to tell you why I know that) It handles rough water great, I think it has a sportier feeling than a 38 but not a lot, This boat has no history never been abused and every owner has really taken care of her. I have run it at lake Havasu, Grand lake ok, Miami to Key West, San Fransisco, San Diego, and a lot of other lakes, Just a good all around boat, It had a Myco trailer when I had it, not sure what it has now, let me know if you need any other info, if you get it I'll send you the magazine that had an article about it, https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0d32118f27.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4126963759.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f3d5ed046b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...51b2ee649f.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4b08171736.jpg |
I’ve seen the boat around here several times (south of Boston area) always clean and well kept. I think the last or maybe current owner just got a big cat.
Dan, the original owner wasn’t Gary Nichols from Nichols marine was it? |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802235)
Boy do I know the history on this one, probably the only one that I actually know more about than Tank
History of Heat Her Up ( I put the name on it ) its considered a 35 Playboy even thou it doesn't have any playboy emblems. in 2003 they were called Mistress Total of 12 were made TS 35. Couple of them have been destroyed, I believe only 4 had Playboy emblems First owner was Gary (Back then he was Cig dealer in the Oklahoma/texas area) had it built for one of the boat shows out there and then kept at his house at Grand Lake I bought it with almost 40 hours on it, 500EFI motors, it did 85 on a good day. I had it for four years. only reason I sold it was I had a bad car accident and broke my back, thought my boating days were over. Sold it to Bob Perette in Boston, His company designs and makes boats for the Military, I thought I was anal about keeping the boat clean, he is on a whole new level. since they can't boat in the winter he and other friends with boats kept them in a heated storage unit and would just go hang out and go over the boats during the winter, He is the one that sent the motors to Innovation, He was having some heath issues so sold the boat to a friend of his Kevin, Kevin is the one that has it now, also lives in Boston Since every one always wants to compare 35 to 38 The 35 Is actually 35'10" and the 38 is not quite 38' for really only foot and a half difference from the windscreen back they are the same, the cabin is the same. deck is shorter The 35 does not have the cleats half way up the deck like the 38 does ( except the 2003 35 I saw at Loto this year did have them) 35 gets on plane way better than any 38 I have been in ( 35's don't have the notch in the bottom like a 38) 35 has smaller fuel tanks. It runs out at 70 gallons a side ( don't need to tell you why I know that) It handles rough water great, I think it has a sportier feeling than a 38 but not a lot, This boat has no history never been abused and every owner has really taken care of her. I have run it at lake Havasu, Grand lake ok, Miami to Key West, San Fransisco, San Diego, and a lot of other lakes, Just a good all around boat, It had a Myco trailer when I had it, not sure what it has now, let me know if you need any other info, if you get it I'll send you the magazine that had an article about it, https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0d32118f27.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4126963759.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f3d5ed046b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...51b2ee649f.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4b08171736.jpg Found some others though. Always loved that 35 https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fee065be8e.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...58ed9250af.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...79ad0b15be.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...46a14be536.jpg |
Originally Posted by Unlimited jd
(Post 4802238)
I’ve seen the boat around here several times (south of Boston area) always clean and well kept. I think the last or maybe current owner just got a big cat.
Dan, the original owner wasn’t Gary Nichols from Nichols marine was it? |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802235)
Boy do I know the history on this one, probably the only one that I actually know more about than Tank
History of Heat Her Up ( I put the name on it ) its considered a 35 Playboy even thou it doesn't have any playboy emblems. in 2003 they were called Mistress Total of 12 were made TS 35. Couple of them have been destroyed, I believe only 4 had Playboy emblems First owner was Gary (Back then he was Cig dealer in the Oklahoma/texas area) had it built for one of the boat shows out there and then kept at his house at Grand Lake I bought it with almost 40 hours on it, 500EFI motors, it did 85 on a good day. I had it for four years. only reason I sold it was I had a bad car accident and broke my back, thought my boating days were over. Sold it to Bob Perette in Boston, His company designs and makes boats for the Military, I thought I was anal about keeping the boat clean, he is on a whole new level. since they can't boat in the winter he and other friends with boats kept them in a heated storage unit and would just go hang out and go over the boats during the winter, He is the one that sent the motors to Innovation, He was having some heath issues so sold the boat to a friend of his Kevin, Kevin is the one that has it now, also lives in Boston Since every one always wants to compare 35 to 38 The 35 Is actually 35'10" and the 38 is not quite 38' for really only foot and a half difference from the windscreen back they are the same, the cabin is the same. deck is shorter The 35 does not have the cleats half way up the deck like the 38 does ( except the 2003 35 I saw at Loto this year did have them) 35 gets on plane way better than any 38 I have been in ( 35's don't have the notch in the bottom like a 38) 35 has smaller fuel tanks. It runs out at 70 gallons a side ( don't need to tell you why I know that) It handles rough water great, I think it has a sportier feeling than a 38 but not a lot, This boat has no history never been abused and every owner has really taken care of her. I have run it at lake Havasu, Grand lake ok, Miami to Key West, San Fransisco, San Diego, and a lot of other lakes, Just a good all around boat, It had a Myco trailer when I had it, not sure what it has now, let me know if you need any other info, if you get it I'll send you the magazine that had an article about it, https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...0d32118f27.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4126963759.jpg https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...f3d5ed046b.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...51b2ee649f.jpg https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4b08171736.jpg We just wired a deposit to TNT and they are supposed to get the boat moved from Boston to Miami next week. Once we get back from Loto shootout on 30th, we will head to miami to check it out and make sure it appears to be what pics in add show it to be. if all is good, will setup survey, etc and hope it all works out so we can bring it home and I can cross one more item off my bucket list! I will keep ayll posted! |
Originally Posted by Unlimited jd
(Post 4802238)
I’ve seen the boat around here several times (south of Boston area) always clean and well kept. I think the last or maybe current owner just got a big cat.
Dan, the original owner wasn’t Gary Nichols from Nichols marine was it? https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...455add719a.jpg |
Originally Posted by debcod2
(Post 4802248)
Thank you for the info Dan! Really cool to learn some of the history on her.
We just wired a deposit to TNT and they are supposed to get the boat moved from Boston to Miami next week. Once we get back from Loto shootout on 30th, we will head to miami to check it out and make sure it appears to be what pics in add show it to be. if all is good, will setup survey, etc and hope it all works out so we can bring it home and I can cross one more item off my bucket list! I will keep ayll posted! |
Originally Posted by thisistank
(Post 4802242)
We had some great times on that boat Dan. I was trying to find the pics when we ran to Key West with Tim and Tom in their guns but couldn't find them. Running back in the rain was not so much fun. LOL
Found some others though. Always loved that 35 https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...df11352996.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4e8a16b96b.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e9412cb7a5.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...d4710fdb57.jpg https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...eeef35589c.jpg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1ac7265c40.jpg |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802258)
The one in the red jacket was the original owner
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...455add719a.jpg |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802260)
Jason that is awesome, Sure you will love it., you should just leave it there until the key west poker run.
Out of curiosity, how many times did you need to stop for fuel from Miami to KW since it appears to have small 70 gallon tanks? |
The tanks are bigger than 70 each but usable was 70. Running 75ish I averaged about a mile to the gallon, its a 160 mile run to key west from Miami, if you went slower you can make it. I always filled up at Gilbert's since we stop there for lunch anyway, that was the big difference with the 38 I could go all the way.
without getting fuel, it also averaged one mile to the gallon, |
Nice looking hot rod, hope the inspection / sea trial goes well...........Dan my Gun it actually 38" 1'.................:kiss:
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4802277)
Nice looking hot rod, hope the inspection / sea trial goes well...........Dan my Gun it actually 38" 1'.................:kiss:
Lip-Ship Performance -- Cigarette Racing Team |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802274)
The tanks are bigger than 70 each but usable was 70. Running 75ish I averaged about a mile to the gallon, its a 160 mile run to key west from Miami, if you went slower you can make it. I always filled up at Gilbert's since we stop there for lunch anyway, that was the big difference with the 38 I could go all the way.
without getting fuel, it also averaged one mile to the gallon, |
Dan, noticed in one of the pics this boat had an intercom system in it. gonna have to check and see if its still in it but did that work good?
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So curt said he put 83 gallons in his 35 Playboy the other day so maybe they do have 90 gallon tanks like i had thought, also i shut the motors off as soon as i saw the fuel pressure gauge jumping around,
The intercom is awesome, (i bought it thru Tres Martin) works great and yes its still in it, when i had the boat it had the flip up wind flaps, Bob put in the windshield and boy did that make a difference while running, so intercom isn't needed as much but still nice to have. There were 5 headsets, |
isnt this the one with the famous camel toe pic?
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 4802345)
isnt this the one with the famous camel toe pic?
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 4802345)
isnt this the one with the famous camel toe pic?
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...523148ce69.jpg |
Originally Posted by H20 Toie
(Post 4802349)
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More pics from Tim of the 35 on the run we took it to key west. Good times.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...ac424acce.jpeg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...88de5604f.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...4476df588.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3a7600e66.jpeg |
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