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87 Cigarette Cafe 35
Hello everyone,
I have a question and looking for some feedback. I’m going to look at a 1987 Cigarette Cafe 35 with the intention to purchase this weekend. I plan to have a survey done but what can I look for that's a dead giveaway from a 34+ year old Cafe hull? The 7.4l engines are rebuilt with about 20hours pushing 560hp with TRS drives. I don't know when or if the drives have been rebuilt. Any issues getting TRS parts? I don't know when or if a restore has been done. I’ve always wanted a Cigarette but.... I've been looking at newer 2008+ "go-fast boats". |
Originally Posted by John Lupo
(Post 4806519)
Hello everyone,
I have a question and looking for some feedback. I’m going to look at a 1987 Cigarette Cafe 35 with the intention to purchase this weekend. I plan to have a survey done but what can I look for that's a dead giveaway from a 34+ year old Cafe hull? The 7.4l engines are rebuilt with about 20hours pushing 560hp with TRS drives. I don't know when or if the drives have been rebuilt. Any issues getting TRS parts? I don't know when or if a restore has been done. I’ve always wanted a Cigarette but.... I've been looking at newer 2008+ "go-fast boats". if I were to go look at a boat these are the things I would check…starting from the back. I might miss a few. These are what comes to mind. 1. Pull up and down on drives…checking transom assembly swivel pins. Might be hard to do if it has hydraulic steering. 2. check general condition of the drive paint for corrosion or chaulkiness (overheating) 3. On a bravo boat I would spin the prop and listen to lower gears. Also inspect hub of prop as you spin. Can typically catch any run out issues on prop shaft. 4. Look in tail pipes for color. Can tell if it’s running rich or lean. Can also catch reversion issues if there are grey spots. 5. knock tap on transom. Can also put moisture meter on it. 6. Check condition of indicator cables. old boats usually have cracked sleeves. 7. Check condition of tabs. 8. Bilge check for water 9. tap around on stringers make sure they are solid. Check bulkhead and around tanks. 10. pop cover near bulkhead to look at top of gas tanks. Sniff around. 11. check transom cut outs with a flash light. See if any water is in there. Make sure cutouts are solid. 12. inspect top of drive. Make sure it’s not rusted from steering pin leaks. 13. if it has y pipes check for leaks and corrosion around the block off plate. 14. Check drive oil color and consistency 15. perform overall inspection of the engine. Looking for corrosion, leaks, etc. won’t be able to really tell health of an engine without diagnostics or running it. 16. check oil dipstick for color and levels 17. check condition of batteries 18. look at exhaust. Again won’t be able to tell health without running a pressure test 19. Check steering fluid color and levels 20. check trim pumps visually and oil color / levels 21. check under hatch for stress cracks. Old cigs used wood in sun pads. Check if it’s rotted. 22. could pull a couple spark plugs to check condition 23. Check condition of hydraulic hoses from pumps to transom 24. look at interior upholstery for cracks, rips, stitching, tears 25. check floor for soft spots. 26. pull floor lids to look at tanks 27. Look at gauges for cracks and condensation /corrosion 28. check power switches under seats 29. check bottoms of captain co pilot chairs for corrosion on aluminum. 30. push into foam on seats. Many cigs used wood coring. Can find soft sports. 31. Check fiberglass for chips and cracks. Look in cowling areas and corners for stress cracks in gel. 32. Inspect overall condition of the dash. Will be difficult to guage operation of dash until using it 33. Check sliding door. 34. check rubber molding around door hatches, engine lid, etc for cracking and dry rot 35. check hoses and connections for dry rot 36. down in cabin most of the inspection will be upholstery related. Looking for cracks etc. 37. make sure ceiling vinyl is well attached not missing any hardware 38. check for cracks in fiberglass where possible. 39. check operation of sink, masserator, toilet, etc. 40. check switches and fuse panel 41. Make sure all the lights work, navigation, transom, cabin lights, etc. 42. check latches on hatches 43. not many places to check stringers down in the cabin 44. check condition of exposed wood like table tops, cooler top, etc 45. Check shifters for corrosion etc 46. check to see if halon system is rust free 47. check extinguishers in cockpit 48. Use stereo system to make sure it works 49. lift cabin seat cushions out, can inspect some stringers and structure 50. check to make sure auxiliary items work like bilge blowers, bilge pumps, etc 51. perform exterior inspection looking at gel coat, paint, fiberglass 52. Look at the very bottom of the boat 53. check rub rails for dings 54. check condition of grab handles for corriosion im sure there are more…most imprtantly take it for a spin and see how it runs. good luck |
Evidently the first thing I would do is buy Moses a plane ticket and fly him into wherever the boat is located.....
In all seriousness, his list is great. I'd post whatever boat you're looking at here and the crew typically knows it and can provide history/feedback. Make sure you know what you want - an 87 Cafe and a 2008 or newer go fast are pretty divergent paths into boating..... |
and most importantly inspect fuel tank!
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Originally Posted by scippy
(Post 4806565)
and most importantly inspect fuel tank!
not many good ways to inspect fuel tanks |
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