28 Cigarette/27 Magnum
 

Hi, wanted to ask if anyone knew if a 28 Cigarette is the same Hull as a 27 Magnum?

Thanks in Advance

Back in the 80's, I was riding in a Top Gun with one of Miami's top engine builders at the time. A 27 Magnum came up on us and the TG owner throttled up. The Magnum was chine walking quite a bit. I had a 28 Cigarette at the time; I asked the engine builder why the Magnum had a tendency to chine walk while my 28 Cig did not. His response, "The 28 Cigarette is a much more refined hull." You may get a number of people who say the 28 Cig is a splash of the 27 Magnum, but not what I was told. As always, I'll have to defer to Brownie for the definitive answer.

I believe a 27 Signature is a splash of a 27 Magnum.

I have owned a 27 Magnum Sport and 3 - 28 Cigarette S.S.'s and they do not ride or handle the same at all.

CIG or Magnum rode better?

Was the 27' Squadron XII also a pop of the 27' Mag?

Cigarette without a doubt in my opinion

Don't know

I’ve had 27 Cig/Squadron, 2~28 Cigs, a 20 Cig and a38 TG. The 27 ran very similar to the 28 Cig and Squadron was after Cig, so if it had a pedigree, it would have been closer to the 28 Cig

No i am not

Sorry for any confusion, Phil ran his 47 Apache as Lucky Strike in a number of races, PTM Express in others.

Ive used the name Lucky Strike on quite a few of my Cigarettes since 1976.

Understood. No offense intended. My current boat is “Shaken Not Stirred” and those darned James Bond people stole my name! Lol. I now remember your board name from OSO for years, my bad.

Interesting comparison . Which was faster with the same or similar power . I am restoring a 27 magnum. . Cheers RG

My 1972 Magnum Sport had Stock 350 Crusader Scorpions with Volvo 270 Drives. 56 MPH

My !st 28 Cigarette was a 1976 28 S.S Standard build with warmed up 350's and Volvo 270 T's with Speedmaster lowers .61 MPH

The second 28 Cig S.S. was a 1976 built for P-Class in APBA with Stock 280 Merc's with TRS drives. Light layup and thinner cabin wood. 63 MPH

The third 28 Cig S.S. Which I built in 1979 for P-Class In APBA .Stock 280 Merc's with TRS Drives mounted much higher. Much lighter layup & cabin 68 MPH

Thanks LS , I am going to run a pair of 454’s running about 420 to 450 hp with TRS drives. I will set the X dimension a little higher than stock as prop selection is much better these days . hoping to to see high sixties maybe even seventy . But time will tell . Planning to leave cabin pretty bare bones . Great info thanks again .RG

In P-Class back then you needed the cabin to be like a pleasure boat cabin.

The bunks were 1/2" Plywood.... So we made them 1/4 inch in the 79.

Good luck with your project. Put up some pics of it here.

You can do lots of other tricks to a hull
to make more speed without touching the engines

I own one of the last 28 Magnums produced. Factory twin big block /TRS. The Factory high X dimension put the top of transom assemblies in to the area of the rubrail.

LS , I will probably blue print the bottom but I don not want to play with the strakes. I notched my 38 Flat Deck not sure it will make much difference on this hull with the power package contemplated . Cheers RG

my Magnum Sedan has old carbureted 350 mags. 66 on radar

The 27 squadron most likely came from the 28, with the sides cut down below the bump out under the rub rail. Cutting the sides down reduced the length to exactly 27’. Then the outer strakes were basically doubled in size. Helps with the cruise speed, is no help with the top speed, and gives a little bit rougher ride. I have looked closely at the 24 squadron, serial number 001 here in Md, and it looks to have come from the 24 cigarette, with the same thing being done – the sides being cut down, but on the 24 squadron the bump out below the rub rail is still there, just shorter than reg cig 24’s (including the Firefox). The deck interior and outer strakes are exactly the same on the 24 as they are on the 27, so much so that the boat on the cover of the 24 brochure was actually a 27