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Dish8999 07-15-2025 10:22 AM

Looking at Cigarette TG 38 at Big Thunder
 
Hello all, new here. Looking at a TG 38 from Big Thunder Marina in Lake of the Ozark’s. It’s listed on multiple sites as a 1993 for 99k but I’m in SoCal. Does anyone know the boat “Probably Shouldn’t Have”, previously “No Permission”

I can’t post the URL until I’ve had ten posts. Any help would be appreciated.

thanks,
dish

thisistank 07-15-2025 01:41 PM

https://bigthundermarine.com/used-pr...3f98cb0908b648

don’t know the boat personally but seen it online. Lola like someone updated it real nice. Spent some coin on it for sure! Looks like a really nice ride. Those drives with blowers will be the weak link but just be easy on them and you should be ok.

where you at in so cal? Be nice to get another cig around here. There’s only a handful these days.

Bought our current top gun from big thunder. Ed was very easy to deal with. By the way, if you buy it, I HIGHLY recommend leaving it there and boating on ozarks once or twice before it heads to Cali. LOTO is fantastic.

Dish8999 07-15-2025 02:34 PM

Tg 38
 
Tank, thanks for the reply and the info. Ed has been very helpful and I look forward to meeting him in person. This will be my first big performance boat and I will definitely have to take the drives into consideration. I’m in Huntington Beach but the boat will be in Havasu. I definitely will take her out on LOA before returning west.

1MOSES1 07-15-2025 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by Dish8999 (Post 4930436)
Tank, thanks for the reply and the info. Ed has been very helpful and I look forward to meeting him in person. This will be my first big performance boat and I will definitely have to take the drives into consideration. I’m in Huntington Beach but the boat will be in Havasu. I definitely will take her out on LOA before returning west.

come buy my boat for 2/3 the cost

seafordguy 07-15-2025 08:26 PM

I wouldn’t be as scared of the XR’s as everyone else is unless you’re planning to romp on it out of the hole, run it WFO and leave the water a lot.

thisistank 07-16-2025 12:02 AM


Originally Posted by Dish8999 (Post 4930436)
Tank, thanks for the reply and the info. Ed has been very helpful and I look forward to meeting him in person. This will be my first big performance boat and I will definitely have to take the drives into consideration. I’m in Huntington Beach but the boat will be in Havasu. I definitely will take her out on LOA before returning west.

Dude named Tom runs the team virgin F2 Top gun out of Newport. Dan has a really nice TS gun out of Valencia he runs down there and in havasu. I’m up in Ventura county. There’s a few other around here but not many. We keep ours in havasu Oct - June. Bring it back to Cali July-Oct. see you in havasu I’m sure. Maybe Catalina run in Sept??

Markus 07-16-2025 02:17 AM


Originally Posted by seafordguy (Post 4930463)
I wouldn’t be as scared of the XR’s as everyone else is unless you’re planning to romp on it out of the hole, run it WFO and leave the water a lot.

It's more that you have to consciously plan to avoid doing those things.

Babied a Bravo behind a supercharged 540 last Sunday. Would have been nicer not to have to think about the drive.

larslindroth 07-16-2025 02:30 AM

Found a couple of Apache 36, that Bobby Saccenti built, for sale. One 1999 was totally re-done by TNT in 2013 and have modest hours. It's got very modest power

but should be bullet proof with XR drives. It's in Louisiana. The 2nd one, 1997, is a monster with pretty fresh engines and drives. It's local to you in San Diego.

I would work the price on the one in Louisiana if you don't need crazy power. It sold for $180 five years ago, now on FB marketplace. I don't know the San Diego one.

Bobby Saccenti raced the twin-step 36 model and won as usual.


https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/199...or-36-9857002/


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wakebum2507 07-16-2025 09:05 AM

link to Louisiana boat?

thisistank 07-16-2025 10:20 AM

That white 36 is gooooood lookin!

ICDEDPPL 07-16-2025 10:26 AM

Heavy Straight bottom + Blower motors + Bravos = you better have a LARGE drive budget and keep one in the back of the truck.

larslindroth 07-16-2025 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by wakebum2507 (Post 4930522)
link to Louisiana boat?

OffshoreOnly doesn't allow FaceB Marketplace links. Here's the boat in two old links.


https://www.speedonthewater.com/feat...pache-warrior/

larslindroth 07-16-2025 02:51 PM

The 1999 in Louisiana, owned by Ryan Whittington. Reach him at (337) 602-6zeroThreeTree Asking $129,000.

Totally restored the last 4 years.

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thisistank 07-16-2025 04:16 PM

Jesus! 130 for that?!

I remember that boat. Was the graphics a wrap? They looked good. Although the white always looks good too.

larslindroth 07-16-2025 09:49 PM

The graphics was done by TNT in 2012/2013. The all white was paint during complete resto by current owner in 2021. It scoots

surprisingly well. Saw a video on the owner's Facebook page. Don't know the fellow, but he's got a large audio business catering to

boaters mainly. Claims he's selling to invest in another business too. His customers seems to like his audio shop. If I had the coin

I would buy it for my younger brother.


Griff 09-08-2025 09:02 PM

A friend in my condo complex bought it a few weeks ago. He hasn't had it wet yet and is having the drives gone through now.

1MOSES1 09-08-2025 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4934370)
A friend in my condo complex bought it a few weeks ago. He hasn't had it wet yet and is having the drives gone through now.

cool resto but black motor 8.2’s is criminal.

boat deserves mercury racing anything…

Griff 09-09-2025 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4934374)
cool resto but black motor 8.2’s is criminal.

boat deserves mercury racing anything…

Agreed and he is weighing options for more hp. It also has 10 batteries under the backseat that will run the A/C and the stereo all day long. Probably runs low 60's.

Griff 09-18-2025 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by Dish8999 (Post 4930417)
Hello all, new here. Looking at a TG 38 from Big Thunder Marina in Lake of the Ozark’s. It’s listed on multiple sites as a 1993 for 99k but I’m in SoCal. Does anyone know the boat “Probably Shouldn’t Have”, previously “No Permission”

I can’t post the URL until I’ve had ten posts. Any help would be appreciated.

thanks,
dish

Posted by BTM that it's heading West. You?? If so, Congrats!!!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1506154c5e.png

thisistank 09-21-2025 11:07 AM

Well Duane, you get it home?

1MOSES1 09-21-2025 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4934930)
Posted by BTM that it's heading West. You?? If so, Congrats!!!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1506154c5e.png

looks like I need to raise the price of mine…. 🙃🫣

Bfoodman 09-22-2025 08:32 AM

shocking yours has not sold. Perhaps its that its a salt water boat?

thisistank 09-22-2025 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4935117)
looks like I need to raise the price of mine…. 🙃🫣


you need to list it on boat trader, powerboat listings and on here. Our cafe sold in a few months and was bought by a nice gentleman that is on zero social media.


Congrats on the purchase Duane. Beautifully restored and upgraded Lipship gun!!! Can’t wait to see it in person!

ICDEDPPL 09-22-2025 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4935174)
you need to list it on boat trader, powerboat listings and on here. Our cafe sold in a few months and was bought by a nice gentleman that is on zero social media.


Congrats on the purchase Duane. Beautifully restored and upgraded Lipship gun!!! Can’t wait to see it in person!


or Consignment .

1MOSES1 09-22-2025 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4935183)
or Consignment .

I might auction it 😵‍💫

cigrocket 09-23-2025 03:34 PM

QUOTE: shocking yours has not sold. Perhaps its that its a salt water boat?




Honestly, it would be tough to find a Cigarette of that vintage that has never touched Salt Water. These boats were designed for the ocean, and most have hit up at least a couple of poker runs if used properly. Also, if taken care of, and flushed, washed etc. Should not be a problem

Craney 09-23-2025 07:10 PM

Oh no another boat that’s been in salt water. The landfill is full salt water boats.

Knot 4 Me 09-24-2025 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4935183)
or Consignment .

A perfect example of this is I was birddogging a 288 Sunny out of OHIO that sat on FBMP for quite a few weeks. Then it popped up on Grand Sport's site and was gone within 24 hours.

Markus 09-25-2025 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by 1MOSES1 (Post 4935196)
I might auction it 😵‍💫

With that paint job, I am sure Sotheby's would take it on.


Dish8999 09-25-2025 02:03 PM

My new to me Top Gun 38
 
Thank you Ed and the team at Big Thunder for an amazing experience!! Thank you to Tank and the OSO community for the support with my questions and your advice.

I made it home to Huntington Beach and our first trip will be out of Newport Harbor tomorrow!!!

Dish8999 09-25-2025 02:07 PM

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Dish8999 09-25-2025 02:58 PM

Yes this is me😎
 

Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4934930)
Posted by BTM that it's heading West. You?? If so, Congrats!!!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...1506154c5e.png

Yes this is me, made it home to HB on Monday!!!

Dish8999 09-25-2025 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4935174)
you need to list it on boat trader, powerboat listings and on here. Our cafe sold in a few months and was bought by a nice gentleman that is on zero social media.


Congrats on the purchase Duane. Beautifully restored and upgraded Lipship gun!!! Can’t wait to see it in person!


Thanks Tank, can’t wait to meet you and see your rig in person!!

F-2 Speedy 09-25-2025 03:08 PM

Id be putting a whole bunch of rocks behind those tires.....that looks steep.............

thisistank 09-25-2025 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by Dish8999 (Post 4935399)
Thanks Tank, can’t wait to meet you and see your rig in person!!

Right on brother!

Post some pics of your shake down run tomorrow. Enjoy!

Dish8999 09-25-2025 03:12 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4935400)
Id be putting a whole bunch of rocks behind those tires.....that looks steep.............

I had chalks on both sides and left the truck hooked up. She’s back home now on level asphalt!!

Griff 09-25-2025 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by Dish8999 (Post 4935397)
Yes this is me, made it home to HB on Monday!!!

Congrats!!! My old Pantera was in Huntington Beach for a while. I sold it to OSO member Dude! Sweet! back in 2007. He kept it a couple years and traded it and its back in the Midwest somewhere, I think

F-2 Speedy 09-25-2025 03:44 PM

Congrats on the new Gun, welcome to the family...........keep an :eek: on that Tank feller............

1MOSES1 09-25-2025 11:34 PM


Originally Posted by Markus (Post 4935375)
With that paint job, I am sure Sotheby's would take it on.

seems like you have a hard on for it… 😘

Dish8999 09-28-2025 12:48 AM

Successful first outing.
 
Took the Gun out today with the wife for the first time since getting her home from LOTO. We got fuel, OMG that was a traumatic shock and then we put in at Huntington Harbor. Took her down the coast to Newport Harbor for lunch and then a sunset cruise back to Huntington. Big thanks to Ed at the beginning and Tank at the end for my boneheaded newbie phone calls. Can’t wait to take her out again!!
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Pump shock
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Yes I out kicked my coverage
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Never gonna stop smiling!!
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Lunch at the lighthouse cafe
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Still smiling
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Sunset from the Cig


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