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42 This and That and 46 This and That!
Do any of you think that Cigarette is going a little overboard with all these different 42 and 46 models? I can't keep up with the difference between the XP and non XP, the Rum Runner and the Rough Rider, etc. I understand the reasoning behind the move but I question its viability in the boating world.
Nissan has four 350Z models. I have wondered if that was really necessary or not. Is there logic in having two or three 42 models and two or three 46 models? I always thought of Cigarette as a custom boat builder - essentially boats built to order. What do the Cigarette afficianados think? |
I think alot of it has to do with The different engine configurations matched to the right step setup. Staggered vs. side by side, hp 500's w/ bravos vs 900's and #6's, etc. One hull isnt gonna perform well w/ all power options & setups, right?
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Jeffrey, I was wondering the same thing.
what happend to the days when the 38 was "the 38" the 35 was "the 35" and so on and so forth back then they didnt use flashy names for different models The Cigarette name sold itself;) |
Just as long as they never mess with the straight bottom Top Gun I am happy !:D :D
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Originally posted by jmackin I think alot of it has to do with The different engine configurations matched to the right step setup. Staggered vs. side by side, hp 500's w/ bravos vs 900's and #6's, etc. One hull isnt gonna perform well w/ all power options & setups, right? Thrillseeker: What? Cigarettes has always had catchy/flashy names for the boats. Mistress, Hawk, Platinum Series, Bullet, Cafe Racer, Revolution, Decathalon, etc. |
Does anyone know what the specifications for each model are? There is the 42 Tiger, the 42 Tiger XP, and one other model I think. Then there is the 46 Rough Rider, the 46 Stealth, and now the 46 Rum Runner. I also heard about the new Gladiator version called the 45 Maximus.
I understand about the different models - 42 Tiger, Tiger XP, Tiger whatever. Isn't it confusing to have different names applied to the same length boat where the names - and not a model designation - dictate the configuration? In other words - why not call the different 46' boats a Rough Rider "XP", Rough Rider "XPS", Rough Rider SS or something along those lines. It's like Mercedes when they used to call their cars a 280S, 280SE, or a 280SEL. The letters dictated the different level of options. I love the names that Cigarette gives their boats. I think they are very appropos for the marque. That being said they should stick with one name designations for each model they produce. The Top Gun has always been the 38. The Cafe was always the 35. The Bullet was always the 31. You did not need the length to know the boat. We all know the Tiger as a 42. There should be one name for the 46 - not three names. Many people do not like "Rough Rider" as a name for the 46. Maybe they need to come up with a name that sticks and becomes associated with the 46. The Gladiator will always be a 36 and the new Maximus will be a 45. Just fruit for thought ... |
I'm confused..but what is new :D
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cigracer, you are right, I guess what I meant to say was that they didnt make different models of the same size and give them all different names:rolleyes: :o
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I just seen a 46 Cig with triple 575's. What are they calling that? I was at the metro beach boat show. Sorry I had no camera,
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Of course, an older 35 is a Mistress, not a Cafe.... ;) and an older 38 is a Flat Deck, not a Top Gun, and I seem to remember a 42 Revolution...
Just yankin' yer chain Jeffery, I think you make a valid point. Too much marketing mumbo-jumbo for me, but maybe it'll sell more T-shirts.... |
Originally posted by Jeffrey Many people do not like "Rough Rider" as a name for the 46. Maybe they need to come up with a name that sticks and becomes associated with the 46. The Gladiator will always be a 36 and the new Maximus will be a 45. Just fruit for thought ... You are exactly right, there are too many names. One name, one length, add model numbers after that. It's like the 35, how many names had that had? Mistress, Cafe, Playboy, Mistress again? Just my .02 |
If it's the right ride, power, length and price I still want it no confusion here, after all it still says Cigarette on the side.
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Originally posted by SummerObsession It's like the 35, how many names had that had? Mistress, Cafe, Playboy, Mistress again? Just my .02 |
just thank the good lord, your ride does not say baja, or scareb, or donzi. your ride says cigarette... every boys dream... GLH is very right
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jeffrey
The Top Gun has always been the 38. The Cafe was always the 35. I think there was a 35 Top Gun a few years back. |
Yep, there was a limited edition 35 Top Gun made i believe in 2000.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by lanpln
Originally posted by Jeffrey The Top Gun has always been the 38. The Cafe was always the 35. I think there was a 35 Top Gun a few years back. Maybe I am wrong and maybe there is a well-thought out process in play here ... maybe a method to their madness! :) |
No...I think you are right Jeffrey....I always thought the
35 Top Gun was kinda stupid...A Top Gun is 38.... Why use the name on a 35 also ? |
Do'nt forget we had the race boat dry martini.......
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Bottom line is ... there is definately room for confusion. Do they even make the 20' Son of a Gun model anymore? Is this Cigarette's complete current model lineup?
20' Son of a Gun 30' Mystique 35' Top Gun 36' Gladiator 38' Top Gun 42' Tiger 42' XP 42' Stealth 42' Rum Runner 45' Maximus 46' Rough Rider Am I missing anything from the new models? The other question is ... why did they rename some of the models? The Bullet was always a good name. No one else uses the Bullet and everyone knew it was a 31 Cigarette. Instead of making the 30' Mystique they could have made a new 31' Bullet and called it the 31' Bullet S or something. Same for the 35 Mistress which then became the Cafe and then became the 35 Top Gun. That was kind of nutty to name the 35' boat after their flagship model 38 Top Gun. I agree with Rum Runner also ... not the coolest name. I thought the Gladiator was a great name personally! :D Maximus is also approriate since that will essentially be a BIG Gladiator. I'm sure Neill from Cigarette is probably making faces at me right now for stirring things up a little. All in good fun Neill. I am - and will always be - a Cigarette fan no matter what you name the boat. Just don't name one an Apple Martini! :D |
The last brochure did not list the Son of a Gun or the Mystique. I think those are discontinued. Or special order.
The 35 is the Mistress. Again. Go figure. |
Originally posted by Jeffrey Do they even make the 20' Son of a Gun model anymore? Is this Cigarette's complete current model lineup? 20' Son of a Gun 30' Mystique 35' Top Gun 36' Gladiator 38' Top Gun 42' Tiger 42' XP 42' Stealth 42' Rum Runner 45' Maximus 46' Rough Rider Am I missing anything from the new models? I'm sure Neill from Cigarette is probably making faces at me right now for stirring things up a little. All in good fun Neill. I am - and will always be - a Cigarette fan no matter what you name the boat. Just don't name one an Apple Martini! :D Heres the current line up: 20 Son of a Gun: Discontinued. They still have the molds to build one if you have the $$, but they are not in production. 30 Mystique. See above. 35 Mistress T/S. The 35 Top Gun was a temporary straight bottom boat. 9 were made. 36 Gladiator 38 Top Gun T/S 42 Tiger T/S: This is a twin engine Bravo boat designed for reasonable power. 42-X: Triple Step designed for big power. 42xp: Discontinued. Evolved to the 42-X 45 Maximus: 46 Rider. "Rum Runner" and "Stealth" were just the customers personal names for the boats. Neither are actual "Production" names. |
No Top Gun straight Bottom ?
Now..Thats a mistake.... |
They don't make any straight bottom boats anymore. I had a straight bottom Gun. Traded it for a T/S. The T/S is far better in every condition.
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Well...........You will have to take me a ride to prove it :D
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Originally posted by birdog Well...........You will have to take me a ride to prove it :D |
Originally posted by cigracer28/38 Just received a phone call from an extremely reliable source and was asked to list the lineup on here. Heres the current line up: 20 Son of a Gun: Discontinued. They still have the molds to build one if you have the $$, but they are not in production. 30 Mystique. See above. 35 Mistress T/S. The 35 Top Gun was a temporary straight bottom boat. 9 were made. 38 Top Gun T/S 42 Tiger T/S: This is a twin engine Bravo boat designed for reasonable power. 42-X: Triple Step designed for big power. 42xp: Discontinued. Evolved to the 42-X 45 Maximus: 46 Rider. "Rum Runner" and "Stealth" were just the customers personal names for the boats. Neither are actual "Production" names. |
Ah whoops! Sorry! Left one out. :D
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I think you can still get a Maximus for 50 cents in a service station bathroom vending machine! :-)
Just kidding, I'm Cigarette through and through. |
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