How much does a Cafe weigh?
 

I'm looking at a mid-90's Cafe Racer...any idea?

Thanks.

9000 dry weight. so fuel and gear looking around 12,000

9800 is what the book says

Thanks...I guess my 5.3 Sub is not going to cut it.

The first time I pulled my Cafe it was with a Tahoe on a Saturday morning...we had an Excursion by the following Wednesday and my knuckles where back to there natural colors a couple weeks later after that Saturday morning drive.

A Tahoe? That takes some huevos...

Even with my small boat, my Tahoe was all over the road (compared to the Sub)...must be the wheelbase. I ended up putting air bags on the rear of my Tahoe, which helped a little.

On the Cafe, I was thinking if it was close, I could put air bags on my (Z-71) Sub...but I don't think that powertrain would be happy for very long.

Too bad the diesel isn't available- Mrs. HH really likes the Sub (and I really like the Cafe).

Just buy the boat and it will force you to buy something to tow it with.:D

Exactly :cool:

...and then, the little devil(s) popped up on my shoulder...

So I guess it's not gonna fit in my 40' storage either?

New Tugboat?? :eek:


Yeah, just get the boat and then you will be forced to buy a new tow vehicle... :hothead: :D

I would say probably not, but you might be able to get away with it if you have a swing away tounge put on the trailer. Our Myco for our Gun is 46', but that is with a couple feet of drive guards. No drive guards and a swing away tounge might get you close.

Man...they'll let anyone in here...

OK...so far I need a new truck and new storage (no drive guard or swing-away).

Anything else?

yeah i can think of something..... since your in the giving mood, you think you can loan cuda 80,000 so he can get a cafe racer. it just kills me to see him riding in that junk box formula. hes like a grandfather to me and im just looking out. oh yeah , hell need a storage space too. cudas buddy, Mr. Wonderful

I paid my $50, so they have to let me in here..

Sounds like you better dip into the trust fund to get a new truck and storage place... :D

They don't have a section for your current boat?

Nope...No current boat.. They don't have a section for my old boat or for my new boat.. All of the non boaters tell me that my boat is one of them cigar boats anyways... :D :D

Then are you sure it's an actual boat that you're buying?

If so, better dip into the trust fund and buy a board section for your boat...while you're at it.

:D

cafe
 

I have a 03 2500HD(quad cab) with the 6.0. Bought a 94 Cafe a month ago in texas and pulled it back to the Ozarks. It did not phase the truck one bit. Just dont put in overdrive. The diesel will get better gas mileage. Good luck

What book ?

9,800 is what Cig published in their literature for a normal FG Top Gun in the mid 90's, and 9,400 is what was published for a normal FG Cafe'.

Craig Barrie informed me that the Carbon Fiber layup in my previous '91 Cafe' saved 400 pounds.

I guess I did it backwards. I bought an 03 Duramax Diesel/Crew Cab, now I'm lookin for a Cafe to pull behind it. I here that the cigarettes are considerably heavier than other boats the same size. It doesn't sound like it from the numbers I see here. Do they really suck more gas than other boats the same size. Sometimes I feel like I have to sort the pepper from the fly ****!

It depends on the lay-up. Cigarette made Fiberglass, Kevlar, and Carbon Fiber. Heaviest to the lightest.

We have a 1991 38 Top Gun made out of carbon fiber. Cigarette said it weighs 9400 lbs with 1/2 tank of fuel. That is light for a 38!

LS JR.

My bad it is 9400# I mistyped, my Tiger is 9800#

Deep V models
 

1) yes they are, but 'considerably' is subjective. As a comparision, a non stepped 35 Fountain Lightning weighs in at 8,600 pounds ( approximately ) and a 35 Cigarette Cafe' is 9,400 pounds.

2) yes due to more wetted / running surface in the water. The upside to that is that they ride VERY well, and you tend to stay nice and dry :)

Re: Deep V models
 

I don't think you can compare a Cafe and a Fountain 35, you need at least a Fountain 38 to have the same length.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :D

Re: Re: Deep V models
 

:D

There IS a photo floating around on here where a 35 Cafe' is rafted next to a 35 Lightning and it does indeed dwarf it. :D

Here's a Cafe docked with a bunch of 38'ers

"A dwarfing we will go, a dwarfing we will go !

Hi ho a merry oh, a dwarfing we will go !"

:D

Here is a Tiger parked with a bunch of Top Guns...Can you tell which is the Tiger? :D :D

No relevance at all...Just like posting Cigs together!

thanks for sticking up for me bobby... you're ok in my book, dont care what they say about you....

Yes

Re: Deep V models
 

A friend of mine has a 1985 34' Scarab. I enjoy the feel of that boat very well. I rode in a 33 formula SS (2000) with twin 502's and Bravo III's and found the the ride seemed much heavier. Very comfortable but not really what I expected. It may have something to do with the way the weight is distributed on the formula too. I remember thinking the the bow was to short. With the "more wetted surface" will the "Cafe" still give a nimble and aggressive ride? I guess I need to test one soon. I'm really getting the itch to buy something and I love the "Cafe's".

Re: Re: Deep V models
 

1) That feeling is correct because the cockpit area is indeed farther forward on the 33SS Express Cruiser. You will always see more 'nose' in an offshore boat because the cockpits are farther back. Plus you sit / stand alot higher up from the waterline in an Express Cruiser.

2) Aggressive ? I would say no. Nimble as far as carving turns ? Yes. Its actually a very forgiving hull. If you misjudge water, a deep V hull like a Cafe' will forgive you and plow right through with little fanfare.