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dockrocker 06-28-2004 12:09 PM

TS TG with big power and #6's?
 
A while back, I remember reading some threads on here talking about the stepped hull Guns, and that Cig didn't recommend big power/SSM drives on the step hull.

But... I see National Marine has a new TS TG with Sterling 900s and #6's - how does the stepped hull work with that power? If I remember correctly, there was concern about the balance of the hull with the bigger power/drives? (I must be getting old because I can't remember the details)

In any case, it seems like big power and speedies are rare in a Gun.

DEVIL MAN 06-28-2004 05:51 PM

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Dockrocker...I have a state of the art Gun for sale....99 with brand new pfaff 1000's coupled to a pair of six's. It is one beauty that runs like a top...white with red and yellow flame graphics. It officially goes on the market next Tuesday and the asking price is 215K...after doing some careful research, it is very fairly priced and it runs awesome!!!

DMan

dockrocker 06-28-2004 11:05 PM

Re: TS TG with big power and #6's?
 
Dman, if I have those winning lotto numbers tomorrow you'll be hearing from me! Actually I was just curious - I can't recall seeing any other TS with big power and 6's.

BLee 06-28-2004 11:59 PM

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Theres another one at national. It has yellow interior and huge scoops. 975's I think? Maybe Tim G can supply a pic.

spitfire1 06-29-2004 07:03 AM

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Did you say pictures........I think these motors have been replaced with bigger ones now...or are in the process of being replaced with some bigger Cobras if I am not mistaken......Tim???

spitfire1 06-29-2004 07:12 AM

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more........

Tim G. 06-29-2004 08:13 AM

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That's the boat.

Those engines went into something else...
We have a nifty pair of 1200 Cobras to go in the boat!! :hothead:
It is a brand new boat.... It should run roughly 125mph.. :eureka:

I will be sure to include some goggles with the boat.
Trained operators only, please.
I know some of you are thinking about upgrading from your pontoon boats...This is not the right choice for newbys....

Engines are not in the boat yet....so I could put 750s in it if the 1200s are too intimidating...

stecz20 06-29-2004 03:49 PM

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very nice rig, thats a choice rig. someday baby................

dockrocker 06-29-2004 04:16 PM

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Damn! Seriously nice hardware there Tim! Must be a ***** to head into work every day! :D :D :D

Comanche3Six 06-29-2004 08:59 PM

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That's some rig!

Quiet Storm 07-02-2004 12:36 PM

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Tin G

Do you take trades? I don't think DMan would.

Tim G. 07-02-2004 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiet Storm
Tin G

Do you take trades? I don't think DMan would.

Sure do. No problem at all.

Don't hesitate to give me a call.

lucky strike 07-03-2004 02:48 PM

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Tim,

Did they dump the 46' Rough Rider in the water today? Saw a black Dually making a right on Atlantic Blvd with a BIG blue empty Myco trailer.

LS JR.

Jamie B. 07-05-2004 01:45 PM

Re: TS TG with big power and #6's?
 

Originally Posted by dockrocker
A while back, I remember reading some threads on here talking about the stepped hull Guns, and that Cig didn't recommend big power/SSM drives on the step hull.

But... I see National Marine has a new TS TG with Sterling 900s and #6's - how does the stepped hull work with that power? If I remember correctly, there was concern about the balance of the hull with the bigger power/drives? (I must be getting old because I can't remember the details)

In any case, it seems like big power and speedies are rare in a Gun.

Just re-directing the thread back to is original intention / question :)

I'd like to hear some accurate feedback on this as well. Thanks.

thisistank 07-05-2004 02:26 PM

Re: TS TG with big power and #6's?
 

Originally Posted by dockrocker
A while back, I remember reading some threads on here talking about the stepped hull Guns, and that Cig didn't recommend big power/SSM drives on the step hull.

But... I see National Marine has a new TS TG with Sterling 900s and #6's - how does the stepped hull work with that power? If I remember correctly, there was concern about the balance of the hull with the bigger power/drives? (I must be getting old because I can't remember the details)

In any case, it seems like big power and speedies are rare in a Gun.

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Tigers? Thats why they have two bottom designs for the new stepped Tigers because the first generation of steps did not work at all well with big power and SSM's. They designed the new stepped bottom to run the larger packages.

GREEK LIGHTNING 07-05-2004 10:03 PM

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The boat with the Sterling 900's dockrocker is talking about was my 04 TG. The boat ran absolutely perfect. The was no balance issue or did it do anything bizzare. I traded the boat back into National Marine only because Cigarette had received 6 pairs of the new 1075s and I just had to have those motors in a new 42X. I am a EFI supporter and decided the 1075s was my best option. The TG was an absolute hot rod / bad ass boat.

lucky strike 07-05-2004 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
The boat with the Sterling 900's dockrocker is talking about was my 04 TG. The boat ran absolutely perfect. The was no balance issue or did it do anything bizzare. I traded the boat back into National Marine only because Cigarette had received 6 pairs of the new 1075s and I just had to have those motors in a new 42X. I am a EFI supporter and decided the 1075s was my best option. The TG was an absolute hot rod / bad ass boat.

I saw it at National Marine about a month ago. They said they sold it, but now it's for sale with Lake Cumberland Marine"??

G LIGHTNING-Any pics of the new 42X?

bob 07-05-2004 10:56 PM

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I am a Cig novice so please excuse my ignorance. What is the difference between a 2004 42 X and a 42 XP? How do the XP's seem to handle with 900's and 6's? Thanks.

Jamie B. 07-06-2004 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
The boat with the Sterling 900's dockrocker is talking about was my 04 TG. The boat ran absolutely perfect. The was no balance issue or did it do anything bizzare. I traded the boat back into National Marine only because Cigarette had received 6 pairs of the new 1075s and I just had to have those motors in a new 42X. I am a EFI supporter and decided the 1075s was my best option. The TG was an absolute hot rod / bad ass boat.

Thanks Mike, thats good to know that you had no worries / issues.

I also think that alot of guys looking to go/use big power are looking past the 38 and just going with the 42. The trend seems to be that the 42 is now about equal to what the 38 use to be as far as desireability is concerned, so that may explain less 38's with big power being produced. It looks to be the same trend with Outerlimits as well.

lucky strike 07-06-2004 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamie B.
Thanks Mike, thats good to know that you had no worries / issues.

I also think that alot of guys looking to go/use big power are looking past the 38 and just going with the 42. The trend seems to be that the 42 is now about equal to what the 38 use to be as far as desireability is concerned, so that may explain less 38's with big power being produced. It looks to be the same trend with Outerlimits as well.

I agree, you also get the 4 extra feet which is nice with a big power boat. I mean, don't get me wrong, the 38 is still the most popular Cig but I think more people that buy 38s these days are just looking for stock/reliable power, and aren't looking to race anyone. (Except PokerRunGunT/S :D)

LS JR.

GREEK LIGHTNING 07-06-2004 09:47 AM

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The 38's step bottom was designed mainly for the Bravo drive. However, after Cig did a few with larger power and #6's it was determined that the boat doesn't do anything out of the ordinary. Because of the extra weight of the drives and motors speeds were in the neighborhood of a 108mph. My suggestion would be to stay with the Bravo XR drive and some good horsepower motors. My 2002 38 with XR drives and 575's running 5 bladed Herrings ran 93.8 on GPS. I know my friend's, Spinetickler, 38' with the 575's and intercoolers, etc ran close to 100.

ONESICKGLADIATOR 07-06-2004 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
The 38's step bottom was designed mainly for the Bravo drive. However, after Cig did a few with larger power and #6's it was determined that the boat doesn't do anything out of the ordinary. Because of the extra weight of the drives and motors speeds were in the neighborhood of a 108mph. My suggestion would be to stay with the Bravo XR drive and some good horsepower motors. My 2002 38 with XR drives and 575's running 5 bladed Herrings ran 93.8 on GPS. I know my friend's, Spinetickler, 38' with the 575's and intercoolers, etc ran close to 100.

I am running a big power zul motors in a gladiator with bravo xr drives and seeing speeds of 112 mph

Rick OSG

Jamie B. 07-06-2004 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GREEK LIGHTNING
I know my friend's, Spinetickler, 38' with the 575's and intercoolers, etc ran close to 100.

That sounds like the setup right there. Clean, reliable and turnkey at close to a century. :cool:

Jamie B. 07-06-2004 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by ONESICKGLADIATOR
I am running a big power zul motors in a gladiator with bravo xr drives and seeing speeds of 112 mph

Rick OSG

Wow, N/A motors to boot. Very cool Rick.

GLH 07-06-2004 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ONESICKGLADIATOR
Run hard or stay at the dock. Life is to short. To be bothered with bull**** !!! Rick OSG

Why do you bother with fishing then Rick? :D:D:D:D

dockrocker 07-07-2004 09:11 AM

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Personally, I think life is too short... ;)

ONESICKGLADIATOR 07-08-2004 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Why do you bother with fishing then Rick? :D:D:D:D

Hey GL
Fishing is a great way to get away from the rat race of work. I go offshore were cell phones do not work & catch fish like these


Rick OSG

GLH 07-08-2004 10:33 AM

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Last one I'd go fishing for if I was a single man.

Nothing like a wide-load rack you can see while checking out the tail of the fish.

Tim G. 07-08-2004 10:52 AM

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I thought we were talking about these:

ONESICKGLADIATOR 07-08-2004 02:03 PM

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Sorry guys
I posted the wrong set of drives in my post above :D :D :D

Here are the set of drives on my boat

Rick (OSG)

GLH 07-08-2004 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ONESICKGLADIATOR
...Here are the set of drives on my boat...

If your get that goffy piece of paper of you might get an extra 1-2 MPH !!!


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