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Wild 09-28-2004 02:16 PM

Carbon Fiber Cigs
 
How many 38 carbon fiber top guns were made.

I thought I saw somewhere in another thread that there were only 4

If so which ones.

Randy Wild

GLH 09-28-2004 02:20 PM

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I think it's 4 TG/F-2's that were built.

Carbon boats Lucky Strike most likely has the answer to that.

Wild 09-28-2004 03:09 PM

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Then what 4 - f-2s were they

thisistank 09-28-2004 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Wild
Then what 4 - f-2s were they

Speed Racer and Cig1's are two of the four. Was the Virgin boat a Carbon Fiber?

dhlaw 09-28-2004 03:24 PM

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Negative.....

lucky strike 09-28-2004 03:37 PM

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Lip-Ship
MAXX
Speed Racer
Team Virgin

lucky strike 09-28-2004 03:40 PM

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Our boat is a Carbon 70 boat.. Was a $15k option when the boat was new. Totally different ride then a Kevlar or Fiberglass boat. Oh yeah.....4 sale too!

LS JR.

Biggus 09-28-2004 04:17 PM

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From what I have been told about the Carbon 70 boats, it was simply a layer of CF added to the inside hull of a regular fiberglass lay-up boat to make it a bit stiffer.

What is the weight difference between a regular lay-up Top Gun and a
Carbon 70 TG?

If Craig Barrie or anyone that worked at Cigarette back then could tell us what the Carbon 70 option was all about I'd love to hear it.

lucky strike 09-28-2004 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggus
From what I have been told about the Carbon 70 boats, it was simply a layer of CF added to the inside hull of a regular fiberglass lay-up boat to make it a bit stiffer.

What is the weight difference between a regular lay-up Top Gun and a
Carbon 70 TG?

If Craig Barrie or anyone that worked at Cigarette back then could tell us what the Carbon 70 option was all about I'd love to hear it.

9400 lbs.

Kurt, you can go up to our boat and push your thumbs against the hull and see it move back and forth.

Bobby

cigarette1 09-28-2004 04:56 PM

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This is one of them ...

You can also see my OSO Classified Ad through the link in my signature.

G

thisistank 09-28-2004 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
Lip-Ship
MAXX
Speed Racer
Team Virgin

See, three out of four I got....And I own a Baja!!! :eek: You guys should be ashamed of your selves! I guess I just don't have a life :(

cigarette1 09-28-2004 05:17 PM

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What's the story on the MAXX boat? It's been for sale for a long time ... are there issues?

G

lucky strike 09-28-2004 05:34 PM

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G

Each boat is set up differently.

The Maxx is not the same as yours.

I've seen yours an the Maxx, an they are rigged quite different

L.S.

375stinger 09-28-2004 06:22 PM

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I have an article from when i was looking at the cafe and top gun carbon 70 boats in 1991, there were six cafes and 6 carbon 70 top guns built.

BLee 09-28-2004 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggus
If Craig Barrie or anyone that worked at Cigarette back then could tell us what the Carbon 70 option was all about I'd love to hear it.

The Carbon 70 option was a guarantee that the boat would run at least 70 mph. They used Carbon fiber among other things to make a lighter, reliable package that again, would run 70+ whenever you wanted.

Jeffrey 09-28-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lucky strike
9400 lbs.

Kurt, you can go up to our boat and push your thumbs against the hull and see it move back and forth.

Bobby

The four carbon fiber Top Guns were all race boats weighing in around 7800 pounds dry. Also, they were all rigged differently since each race customer rigged their own boats. As far as I know none were completely rigged by Cigarette. The Virgin boat was rigged by Tres at Martin Offshore and SpeedRacer (aka Dick Simon Marine) was rigged by Dick Simon. That is why each of the boats are slightly different. They each had their own ideas of what they thought would make their boat the fastest.

Jeffrey 09-28-2004 10:07 PM

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One other thing to add - NONE of the four boats is in its original race form anymore. Each of the boats have been "pleasurized" to some degree. The most upgrades have gone into the ex-Team Virgin boat. The owner spent a small fortune to create an awesome custom interior. If someone has pics of the boat before and after I am sure everyone would love to see them. SpeedRacer (aka Dick Simon) was pleasurized by myself with the help of Tres at Martin Marine and Dan at Archer Marine. It was essentially turned into a circa-2000 pleasure Top Gun cockpit. Gary's boat was also redone by Phil at Lipship. The boat that appears to have the least amount of upgrades is the MAXX boat which is still for sale. I cannot believe that someone has not purchased this boat yet. It is priced well and has a ton of potential in terms of upgrading it into an incredible Poker Run boat. Also, I believe it may be the only one of the four that never experienced an "incident" in its heyday.

dhlaw 09-28-2004 10:30 PM

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Let me drive that thing, I'll show you the bottom side!!!!!

lucky strike 09-28-2004 10:46 PM

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Hey Brett !

I'll get the camera ready !!!!!

Steve

lucky strike 09-29-2004 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
The four carbon fiber Top Guns were all race boats weighing in around 7800 pounds dry. Also, they were all rigged differently since each race customer rigged their own boats. As far as I know none were completely rigged by Cigarette. The Virgin boat was rigged by Tres at Martin Offshore and SpeedRacer (aka Dick Simon Marine) was rigged by Dick Simon. That is why each of the boats are slightly different. They each had their own ideas of what they thought would make their boat the fastest.

I gotcha Jeffrey. I was reffering to our Carbon 70 Top Gun


Originally Posted by lucky strike
9400 lbs.

Kurt, you can go up to our boat and push your thumbs against the hull and see it move back and forth.

Bobby


jawbreakerkid 09-29-2004 08:40 AM

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i'm a little partial to Speed Racer!! :D :D :D

Tres 09-29-2004 09:35 AM

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Virgin weighed in @ 7602 On the scales at Lake X and only the decks are the focus of the Carbon on the F 2s

BLee 09-29-2004 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
The boat that appears to have the least amount of upgrades is the MAXX boat which is still for sale. I cannot believe that someone has not purchased this boat yet. It is priced well and has a ton of potential in terms of upgrading it into an incredible Poker Run boat. Also, I believe it may be the only one of the four that never experienced an "incident" in its heyday.

A-greed. That is a straight Diamond in the Rough. :cool:

GLH 09-29-2004 01:35 PM

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It might be sold. Waiting for the domino of sale based on a sale based on a ....
Tres rigged it originally racing it with the Maxx Petroleum family out of Canada I think, but it was tamed down when the current owner got it.

Jeffrey 09-29-2004 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tres
Virgin weighed in @ 7602 On the scales at Lake X and only the decks are the focus of the Carbon on the F 2s

Now I know why you won so many races Tres!! Ha ha ... the DSM boat was 200 pounds heavier! :)

lucky strike 09-29-2004 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
It might be sold. Waiting for the domino of sale based on a sale based on a ....
Tres rigged it originally racing it with the Maxx Petroleum family out of Canada I think, but it was tamed down when the current owner got it.

Which boat are you talking about?

LS JR.

BLee 09-29-2004 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
It might be sold. Waiting for the domino of sale based on a sale based on a ....
Tres rigged it originally racing it with the Maxx Petroleum family out of Canada I think, but it was tamed down when the current owner got it.



Originally Posted by lucky strike
Which boat are you talking about?

LS JR.

"Maxx Petroleum Family" .............. what would be your guess....... ;) :(

lucky strike 09-29-2004 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TwinStepGun
"Maxx Petroleum Family" .............. what would be your guess....... ;) :(

he he he...... :drink:

LS JR.

GLH 09-29-2004 08:40 PM

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Pokedhertwinguns to the rescue again. :D:D:D

Tres 09-30-2004 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by GLH
It might be sold. Waiting for the domino of sale based on a sale based on a ....
Tres rigged it originally racing it with the Maxx Petroleum family out of Canada I think, but it was tamed down when the current owner got it.

I think it was called Kengo chain of fuel stations.

Tres 09-30-2004 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeffrey
Now I know why you won so many races Tres!! Ha ha ... the DSM boat was 200 pounds heavier! :)

Keep your boat light so you can deversify. Both the Virgin , Maxx, and the 36 Virgin all had fuel cells. and we riggied them very light. this allows you to move the weight around.


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