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Pantera24 10-31-2006 07:51 AM

Boss o' Nova?
 
Does anyone know whatever happened to the Boss o' Nova?

Cig35Mistress 10-31-2006 08:31 AM

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The original Boss O' Nova, a 32' Cary/Cigarette was for sale in Ohio about ten years ago. The boat had been converted to outboards, someone had slapped 235 Evinrudes or some other pieces of **** onto a bracket. Only wanted about $10k if I remember correctly . . . yes, still kicking myself on that one!

Harry

Pantera24 10-31-2006 09:17 AM

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@#%$% 235 Evinrudes :eek:
Man I don't know what it is but everytime I see that boat I just fall more in love with it.

Black Tornado 10-31-2006 02:34 PM

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However destroy the stern of a boat that has won a World Title is'nt a good thing. I remember something similar speaking of the old Aeromarine I then become BAM.
However the Boss O'Nova were three: The first it was a Bertram 31', there was then the II that was not a Cary, but already' a real Cigarette 32' (it had the deck as the new 36') and was a prototype because was builded only this one by Cigarette and then the III that was a beautiful silvered Cigarette 36'.
This last was purchased in 1973 by Howard Arneson that modified it with a new deck to entertain a cabin and re-named it Nauti Bye II. Arneson use it for many years in some competition club and for fast cruise.

Cig35Mistress 10-31-2006 05:42 PM

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Marco:

Thanks for the history lesson - and I agree, ruining a vintage raceboat in anyway is a sacrelige!

Take care,

Harry

DelawareRiverRunner 10-31-2006 08:06 PM

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Any Boss O' Nova pics and other info.? Was there a Bertram first then a Cigarette?

DelawareRiverRunner 10-31-2006 08:08 PM

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Somehow I missed or sidestepped post #4...must have been the beer!

Ron P 10-31-2006 08:29 PM

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I had an office next to Bill Wishnick for a couple of years. Neat guy.

I remember a Bosa Nova with straight shaft inboards sitting behind what is now Lightning Jacks for years. Which one was that? If I recall, it had a reverse angle transom.

Top Banana 10-31-2006 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
However the Boss O'Nova were three: The first it was a Bertram 31', there was then the II that was not a Cary, but already' a real Cigarette 32' (it had the deck as the new 36') and was a prototype because was builded only this one by Cigarette and then the III that was a beautiful silvered Cigarette 36'..


Marco ....this is what you are talking about.

Notice that the Cigarette boat co was so new, they didn't yet have the logo as their brand....the rear of the hull just has the word Cigarette.

We have a whole section on Wishnick going up on the site next week...also Aronow, Betty Cook, Vincenzo, Billy Martin a whole new look to.....www.historicraceboats.com

DelawareRiverRunner 10-31-2006 09:47 PM

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GREAT photo Charlie!! Might you have any color photos of #1 and #2?

Ron P 10-31-2006 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
We have a whole section on Wishnick going up on the site next week...also Aronow, Betty Cook, Vincenzo, Billy Martin a whole new look to.....www.historicraceboats.com

Then you'll enjoy the Story in an upcoming issue of EBM about Billy Martin's return to racing with OPA 2006. Ocean City MD was he debute event with his son.

24degrees 11-01-2006 12:08 AM

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Looks like he's running an old 36 pleasure Cig?..........cool!

Black Tornado 11-01-2006 06:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana
Marco ....this is what you are talking about.

Notice that the Cigarette boat co was so new, they didn't yet have the logo as their brand....the rear of the hull just has the word Cigarette.

We have a whole section on Wishnick going up on the site next week...also Aronow, Betty Cook, Vincenzo, Billy Martin a whole new look to.....www.historicraceboats.com

Charlie,you are right about the logo. In fact the Boss O'Nova was one of the first 36' ever builded by Cigarette.
The sequence should be: Black Tornado, Aeromarie I, and then Lady Nara, Blonde II, Boss O'Nova III(not necessary in that order).

That color photo of the Boss O'Nova III, the only existing to the moment, is beautiful but sinned that it seems to be taken by a picture with a wrong angling that deforms the hull. .... you excuse my pedantry.
I think that it was deal with one of the more' beautiful 36' of the ever builded and coloured.
I'm waiting the interesting new sections on HORBA.

Black Tornado 11-01-2006 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
Then you'll enjoy the Story in an upcoming issue of EBM about Billy Martin's return to racing with OPA 2006. Ocean City MD was he debute event with his son.

Very nice shot Ron! :cool:

Black Tornado 11-02-2006 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron P
I had an office next to Bill Wishnick for a couple of years. Neat guy.

I remember a Bosa Nova with straight shaft inboards sitting behind what is now Lightning Jacks for years. Which one was that? If I recall, it had a reverse angle transom.

Ron
That Boss O'Nova was the former Big Broad Jumper a tin Maritime 32' I think,not the Bertram 31' that had stern drives unit.
But the transom was a right angle...Only the Bertram 31' had a transom similar to the Chris Craft runabout boats,with reverse angle.....
In 1968 Bill Wishnick renamed that Maritime 32' Nova-Boss O'Nova. Then in 1969 he bought from Odell Lewis a Mona Lou Bertram 31' and renamed it Boss O' Nova again.

Do you have an image of that Lightining Jacks?

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/338...66resizdn5.png

Black Tornado 11-02-2006 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DelawareRiverRunner
Any Boss O' Nova pics and other info.? Was there a Bertram first then a Cigarette?

Here the three Boss O'Nova. Sorry but I haven't colour images of the Bertram version.
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/918...nova69ahj1.jpg
1969- Bertram 31' former Mona Lou IV of Odell Lewis-Mel Riggs.
http://img290.imageshack.us/img290/4...onova1aof3.jpg
1970-71 version - Hennessy Cup 1970- version with modified characters of the name and race number.
http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2747/vbv71qy1.jpg
1971-Cigarette 32'- Boss O'Nova II - Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio 1971,note the deck like that new 36' and different to the typical deck of the Cary 32'. It was builded in the 1971 when Aronow had just open the new Cigarette and was free from business with Elton Cary.
In the background;Black Tornado 31'. It was a Cary 32' cutted some centimeters on the sides and with a new wodden deck. It became the first powerboat toy for the student Hal Sahlman in 1974,like The Little Cigarette.
http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/4...15smallea1.jpg
1972-73 - Wild Willie Boss O'Nova of Willie MacDonald. It was the former Boss O'Nova II.

http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/151...es0036azg3.jpg
1971- Cigarette 36' - Boss O'Nova III - Wishnick drove this boat in only few races(1-2 races) in Usa. The boat then rest in the hangar of the Cigarette until in 1973 when Howard Arneson seeing it and bought it.

Billy Martin 01-05-2007 09:18 AM

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Heres One! 1971

Deauville Trophy 01-05-2007 02:48 PM

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Somehow, I had missed this thread the first time around.
I am glad it came back to the fore. Great pictures and explanations. This is why I love this site so much.
Thanks guys.

Phil.

PS, my modest contribution to the subject. A photo of the 32' Cigarette on its way to 2nd place during the 1971 Dauphin D'Or and a view of the transom of the same boat in its original state (before someone put a pair of "clip on" engines).

Deauville Trophy 01-07-2007 11:57 AM

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I made an error when labelling my archive. The picture of the transom isn't "Boss O'Nova II" but "The Cigarette".
Here is a picture of Boss O Nova, showing a novel feature at the time, dual hydraulic rams operating each flap.

Phil.

Mange 01-24-2007 10:51 AM

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Boss O Nova 1971 "Getingloppet" Sweden.
(A very good friend of mine, Ricky, found this pics somewere)

Black Tornado 02-05-2007 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Mange (Post 2003149)
Boss O Nova 1971 "Getingloppet" Sweden.
(A very good friend of mine, Ricky, found this pics somewere)

Hey Mange, Your friend does not have one photo also of the Black Tornado in that Gettingloppet 1971?

Marco


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