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Hauling Trash 01-12-2007 06:16 PM

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Heres a pic i found


Mike

Black Tornado 01-13-2007 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Hauling Trash (Post 1991588)
Heres a pic i found


Mike

That's the American Moppie next Canadian Moppie and McKee Jeans.
American Moppie was the second Bertram 31' ever builded,(the first was the Bertram's personal last race- boat ,the My Moppie),in 1967,and drove by the at that time Bertram's chairman Peter Rittmaster.
Since that boat still had the old transmissions,Rittmaster builded a second American Moppie with the stern drives. It was sold in 1970 to Ronny Bonelli and became Mister Charly.

Marco

Some small correction: the American Moppie next Canadian Moppie and McQeen Jeans not McKee was the former Master Moppie in 1967.

Marco

Deauville Trophy 01-13-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 1991890)
That's the American Moppie next Canadian Moppie and McKee Jeans.
American Moppie was the second Bertram 31' ever builded,(the first was the Bertram's personal last race- boat ,the My Moppie),in 1967,and drove by the at that time Bertram's chairman Peter Rittmaster.
Since that boat still had the old transmissions,Rittmaster builded a second American Moppie with the stern drives. It was sold in 1970 to Ronny Bonelli and became Mister Charly.

Marco

Furthermore this is a great picture to compare the 31' Bertram with the 36' Cigarette.
The 31' Bertrams was cutting edge before Don Aronow reshuffled the pack with his 32' "The Cigarette" and the 36' that followed.
Here are two photos borrowed from Graham Stevens Library on Boatmad.
They help to highlight the differences between the two hulls and check the innovations in design which basically made that one hull took over the other as the top equipment in offshore racing.

Phil.

24degrees 01-13-2007 03:39 PM

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Why does the Bertram have a Cigarette decal?

Rik 01-13-2007 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 1990025)
That was a Dan Arena hull. He also built hulls for Howard Arneson.

Dan Arena was a well known west coast figure that built primarily hydroplanes and fast runabouts. Unfortunately his offshore designs did not prove long lasting.

Dan Arena was one of if not the first person to achieve 100 mph on the water.

He was an Original "Gold Cup" racer. He had some great stories as well as success.

He build one hull for Howard, raced once. Delaminated the side in the first race. Fast, but a cold molded boat was not the same as it is by today's standards.

Deauville Trophy 01-13-2007 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 24degrees (Post 1992406)
Why does the Bertram have a Cigarette decal?

Good question!
It seems that it was a common theme on Tim Powell's boats.
Here is a photo taken at the 1970 Deauville Trophy.
A 'Cigarette Racing team' decal is clearly visible above the name of his previous boat.
Like yourself, I wouldn't mind finding the reason.

Phil.

Black Tornado 01-14-2007 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Deauville Trophy (Post 1992490)
Good question!
It seems that it was a common theme on Tim Powell's boats.
Here is a photo taken at the 1970 Deauville Trophy.
A 'Cigarette Racing team' decal is clearly visible above the name of his previous boat.
Like yourself, I wouldn't mind finding the reason.

Phil.

Note on the background the second 32' Black Tornado. In the event that one of Cosentino with him race number 89.

Deauville Trophy 01-15-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 1992972)
Note on the background the second 32' Black Tornado. In the event that one of Cosentino with him race number 89.

Marco:
Did Balestrieri ever raced #89? I am only asking because all the info I have indicate that Cosentino drove the 31' Bertram 'Red Tornado' on this event. I was there but I didn't have a clue of who was who and what was what at the time.
I was 10 and this was my first taste of Offshore Racing. I thought that the 007 boat belonged to James Bond (sad but true).
Phil.

thedonz 01-15-2007 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 24degrees (Post 1992406)
Why does the Bertram have a Cigarette decal?

i would like to know that as well....my guess is just like now days some brand boats have other boat company boats names on there....like cig has skater as wellmas fountain has skater....can it be because it was layed up by then

Mike

Black Tornado 01-15-2007 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deauville Trophy (Post 1993586)
Marco:
Did Balestrieri ever raced #89? I am only asking because all the info I have indicate that Cosentino drove the 31' Bertram 'Red Tornado' on this event. I was there but I didn't have a clue of who was who and what was what at the time.
I was 10 and this was my first taste of Offshore Racing. I thought that the 007 boat belonged to James Bond (sad but true).
Phil.

Hi Phil,I think that in Deauville 1970 raced the two Black Tornado(I have a picture but I must to find and I will post here). Balestrieri raced with the 4 from 1968(it was one of the old race number of D.Aronow) and I think that he didn't against the counter-spell in that event.
About the 007 can console you that thin to today also I think of what something with Bond, James Bond, has to what doing. ...


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