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Classic Key West
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Just love this pic. From the top.
Velocity Michelob Light Satisfaction Cray Marlboro/Rombo Dry Martini 2 Slingshot Rothmans Apache The Collection Toleman Group Arneson Ajac Hawk |
Awesome!
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Any idea what year that was?
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Originally Posted by Oh Deere
(Post 2057038)
Any idea what year that was?
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Originally Posted by Oh Deere
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Any idea what year that was?
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Here's one for Insp. Clouseau (B.T.).....1982 world's back in Key West, Ajac Hawk is up front temporarily. Mystery is what / who is the other white 37.5 Cigarette in the background, back of fleet, sporting the same style graphics???
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Great Pic
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It's the #17 Cigarette Hawk but I don't know who drove it at Key West 1982.
Jacoby drove the #17 Cigarette Hawk in all the APBA season in 1982. I thought that that boat was the renamed old Ajac Hawk but maybe it was not so. In the Ajac Hawk in the foreground the race number is not visible,but maybe it's the US-1 of the new becoming APBA Champ Jacoby. I have poor informations about that APBA-World Championships of 1982. Maybe one of the two 37'5" was the former Popeye's of Copeland? By the way the real World Championships that year were displayed in three races in England and the real World Champion was Renato Della Valle in a CUV 38' MerCruiser. |
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Are you shure it wasnt this guy!!!!!!!, Jus Kidden
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It's a first version of the flat hull outboard from Kitchen Boats Co.?:D
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Originally Posted by ygrowup
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Here's one for Insp. Clouseau (B.T.).....1982 world's back in Key West, Ajac Hawk is up front temporarily. Mystery is what / who is the other white 37.5 Cigarette in the background, back of fleet, sporting the same style graphics???
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Originally Posted by Black Tornado
(Post 2070073)
It's a first version of the flat hull outboard from Kitchen Boats Co.?:D
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Originally Posted by ygrowup
(Post 2069578)
Here's one for Insp. Clouseau (B.T.).....1982 world's back in Key West, Ajac Hawk is up front temporarily. Mystery is what / who is the other white 37.5 Cigarette in the background, back of fleet, sporting the same style graphics???
It's the 35' Panama Hawk or the 37'5" CigaretteHawk?:confused: |
Originally Posted by Black Tornado
(Post 2071316)
ygrowup,who are right?
It's the 35' Panama Hawk or the 37'5" CigaretteHawk?:confused: The 35' Bounty Hunter was purchased by two Panamanian businessmen and rename Panama Hawk. (Best of my recollection). Cigarette Hawk #2 was the old 39' Rampage and was run by Craig Barrie. AC |
Assumed that it was a 37.5, but Andrew seems to be right that it's a 35. Interesting that it's #17. Doubly interesting that J Jacoby / US-1 has reverted back to Ajac graphics after runnning that season as Cig Hawk? Need a couple 'runners at mile marker 84 & a few more nightcaps atThe Bull to ponder all this!
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According that the 37'5" Ajac Hawk in foreground was #US-1 of Jacoby,who drove that other 37'5" Cigarette Hawk #17?
They are two pics posted by h2oboater in post 204 in Back in The Day thread,and was clearly taken in Key West 1982..... Anyone have a picture of Panama Hawks?! |
Fairly sure that H20 took those two pix on the Detroit River; Belle Isle in the background. #17 would have been used until the end of the regular 82 season, US-1 applied after clinching national title & before Key West 'worlds'
Would be interesting to see any pix of the Panamanian-owned Cig..... |
Originally Posted by ygrowup
(Post 2072033)
Fairly sure that H20 took those two pix on the Detroit River; Belle Isle in the background. #17 would have been used until the end of the regular 82 season, US-1 applied after clinching national title & before Key West 'worlds'
Would be interesting to see any pix of the Panamanian-owned Cig..... I had been drawn in deceit by the background and convinced it was Key West..... However yes,would be interesting to see any better pix of the Panama Hawk. |
I just spoke to Jerry Jacoby and asked him about this....he said a guy from Panama wanted him to make him a race boat that was 35 feet ....not the 37.6 and paint it to look exactly like his 37.5.
So the other boat was a 35 and looked the same but was called Panama Hawk. Mystery solved from the horses mouth. |
Well done Charlie!
However a picture of Panama Hawk will be welcome! |
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Here you go, still owned by the same people and running like never before.
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Is clearly a 35.'
Then Spirit of Panama/Daddy Cool not is the former Bounty Hunter but as Crouse writes on Searace, Panama Hawk,still alive somewhere in Panama... Many Thanks saulesses! |
Originally Posted by saulesses
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Here you go, still owned by the same people and running like never before.
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Hi Champ, Charlie, et al.
Did Cig, apache, USA do any custom lay ups for the race boat owners? Was there 1 boat that stood out as being very unique in terms of rigging and lay-up design? Who had the best rigged boat in the day and who was the rigger? |
Originally Posted by TOASTY
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Hi Champ, Charlie, et al.
Did Cig, apache, USA do any custom lay ups for the race boat owners? did they all come out the same way or where there any boats that made some unique over others? Who had the best rigged boat in the day and who was the rigger? I am sure that there were a lot of very good guys over the years and at some point in time, each of them stood out as the best for that time. But, to say that one was the best of all time is not something that we would want to do. Richie had Bob Biech built immaculate boats, Bobby and Jack were at the top of the game for a number of years. Bobby Saccenti and the Apache boats too. What about Brownie and Mel Riggs and Billy Sirois, guys who built them and engineered them and then raced them.....yeah, there were some great riggers over the years. |
Many Thanks to you too,Richie!
That windscreens it didn't convince me. Why to change the original one of the Bounty Hunter?!He would have been unusual and above all totally useless. Instead is always the same original...that typical of the old white American Eagle. P.S.another correction for Searace |
i am in the process of rigging a new 18' and rerigging the sutphen and i am doing almost all of the work. i was thinking of when it was rigged back in the 80s who may have had their hands on it. didnt mean to stir anything. i just thought maybe the top racers had a go to guy. what was the time line like? if you brought a boat in what was the expected time to get it back, did the guys who rigged like you watching over and seeing how things went so u can learn?
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Originally Posted by TOASTY
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i am in the process of rigging a new 18' and rerigging the sutphen and i am doing almost all of the work. i was thinking of when it was rigged back in the 80s who may have had their hands on it. didnt mean to stir anything. i just thought maybe the top racers had a go to guy. what was the time line like? if you brought a boat in what was the expected time to get it back, did the guys who rigged like you watching over and seeing how things went so u can learn?
Time line often depended on how close to a race it was and how many other boats they had to do. |
30' sutphen is the rerig
the 18 is a new center console boat for commercial fishing i build. hows the 35 comming along? |
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