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tommymonza 08-22-2008 02:22 PM

What about the museum in Milano to preserve it ? They have the room and even though it is a American built boat it is an Italian champions old race boat.

tommymonza 08-22-2008 02:34 PM

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Marco have you been to the museum in Venezia?

tommymonza 08-22-2008 02:41 PM

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MARCO who manufactured this boat? Viewed in Venezia

Black Tornado 08-22-2008 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 2660923)
What about the museum in Milano to preserve it ? They have the room and even though it is a American built boat it is an Italian champions old race boat.

The interest for that Cig 36' for the Museo Della Tecnica of Milan is 0.

Black Tornado 08-22-2008 03:32 PM

About the ASSO it was very famous during the pre-war period in the world speed record attempts.
Looking the third pic we can note the first stern drive of the world.
It was created by the Engineer Guido Cattaneo.
I will speak about it soon in a new thread on OSO dedicated to who really invented the stern drives unit.
Surely wasn't Jim Wynne or him collegue Strang at the times in Mercury in the fifties.

Black Tornado 08-22-2008 03:38 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 2660953)
MARCO who manufactured this boat? Viewed in Venezia

By the hull it seems a Cosca.

MF 08-26-2008 04:10 PM

Hi, i will be there i think in the middle of october,
If someone is going to give me some address to look i will go and check the situation, maybe we will save her.

MF 08-26-2008 04:11 PM

PS
Reconstruction of the deck of my 36 is quite finished, will post some pic when i will spray the primer.

tommymonza 08-26-2008 08:37 PM

MF it is located at the Abbate yard in Italy on the road between Lugano and Como just over the Swiss border coming from Lugano

It would be shame for it to be scrapped.I can't imagine Abbate wanting anything for it other than someone to haul it away.

If anything it would be cool to see restored just for viewing not for running.

Marco I can't wait to here the story about the outdrive.If you would like you can PM me the story in Italiano and I will have my girlfriend translate and i will send it back to you transcribed.Her english is excellent.

BROWNIE 08-27-2008 07:15 AM

Outboard Marine Corp built a sterndrive in the 20's. It was all brass, and they showed it at the boat shows for many years. There is nothing new under the sun.

Chris Sunkin 08-27-2008 07:52 AM

Watch is Brownie, they're still pissed about Antonio Meucci.
;)

Black Tornado 08-27-2008 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by BROWNIE (Post 2665322)
Outboard Marine Corp built a sterndrive in the 20's. It was all brass, and they showed it at the boat shows for many years. There is nothing new under the sun.


Nothing new again under the sun perhaps for you and few other experts of facts of nautical, but he keeps on saying and to write whether to create it for first it was Wynne, while he was the first one to deposit the brevet.
Wynne has been a great but the history it must be written with the truth.
Speaking of Outboard Marine I already knew the facts but thin to now no photos show as they were these transmissions.
I hope to see soon something from over Atlantic.

Black Tornado 08-27-2008 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by Chris Sunkin (Post 2665358)
Watch is Brownie, they're still pissed about Antonio Meucci.
;)

Yes I piss over the Bell Co.for example.
But It was another story.
Nothing to whether to do with that of the stern drives.

DCP21 08-29-2008 06:36 PM

What hull was Aeromarine III Would have been raced Circa 1973? I have an old photo autographed by Ed Keikhaefer to my Dad, will scan photo and post it when I get the scanner hooked up

Black Tornado 08-30-2008 05:05 AM


Originally Posted by DCP21 (Post 2668996)
What hull was Aeromarine III Would have been raced Circa 1973? I have an old photo autographed by Ed Keikhaefer to my Dad, will scan photo and post it when I get the scanner hooked up

Hull number or type?
It was a Cigarette 36' built in the end of 1971.
I think it was the hull number around #10.

Black Tornado 08-30-2008 05:16 AM


Originally Posted by MF (Post 2664684)
Hi, i will be there i think in the middle of october,
If someone is going to give me some address to look i will go and check the situation, maybe we will save her.

Hi MF,
I have sent you a e-mail to your address but I don't know if you have received it.
However tommymonza has described the correct road to reach the Primatist yards.
I am interested to see how the works proceed on the Aeromarine IX.

Black Tornado 08-30-2008 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 2664996)
MF it is located at the Abbate yard in Italy on the road between Lugano and Como just over the Swiss border coming from Lugano

It would be shame for it to be scrapped.I can't imagine Abbate wanting anything for it other than someone to haul it away.

If anything it would be cool to see restored just for viewing not for running.

Marco I can't wait to here the story about the outdrive.If you would like you can PM me the story in Italiano and I will have my girlfriend translate and i will send it back to you transcribed.Her english is excellent.

Unfortunately Bruno Abbate cannot tell us anymore nothing on that boat because he passed away few days ago.
R.I.P.


Thanks about your offer to translation. I am still completing the research and I will eventually send you an e-mail when it will be completed.

littlenige 09-01-2008 03:29 AM

Can't believe I haven't seen this thread before today! What a fantastic find. Can't bear to think of it being tossed aside like that. Would sure look great restored (like the Cinzano boat that I'm about to post pics of!)


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