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Motorcies 03-09-2009 03:41 PM

who was Didier Peroni ?
 
When I worked in MonteCarlo on the yacht "Blue Shadow" in 1987, I remember my heart pleasantly training pilot Didier Pironi, aboard his boat Offshore "COLIBRI" we were anchored in front of the entrance to the port and in these years his team were long time next to our boat soon after, we learned that an accident in which a tube race died and his team.
From here I want to remind everyone who was one of the boats and more Offshore
Strong Now excuse my English

http://i44.tinypic.com/2n84hg1.jpg

Didier Pironi was linked with watersport already since his youth. He was a university swimming champion, appreciated water-skiing or enjoyed life on-board his parents' yacht. Already while being in Formula One he imported Italian Abbate speedboats as well as Lamborghini engines to France.

During his reconvalescence after the accident at Hockenheim he coped more with motorboats and together with his half-brother José Dolhem he founded a company called "Euronautique-Leader" at St. Tropez. 5000 square metres of hangars for reparation and preparation of boats were built. Additionally Leader competed with three boats in the 1986 European Offshore-Championship, with an Abbate 41 with Didier Pironi on board, a Conquest 39 ('Rocky') and a Cigarette 38. All three were of course powered by Lamborghini engines. Didier had driven the 1986 season to find out and settle down in the 'scene' and also found out about the unpleasant sides of the sport when breaking four ribs in an accident during his first race near .

http://i44.tinypic.com/9svz82.jpg

In 1987 he competed in the World Championship, together with his navigator Bernard Giroux, a two times Paris-Dakar winner with Ari Vatanen, and the so called "throttleman" Jean-Claude Guénard, an ex-Ligier engineer. The boat, the 'Colibri' was revolutionary. Completely made of carbon fibre it was the lightest boat among the competitors, less than 3500 kg, built at the ACX shipyard at Brest, France.

Then in early August 1987 came the first big success - the Midial-Colibri won at Arendal in Norway, Pironi and his team became the top-competitor for the title. Among the congratulations there was even a telegram from Enzo Ferrari which touched him a lot.Totally enthusiastic they went on to England for the race off the Isle of Wight. Just after the start the 'Colibri' was already among the top five, a few minutes later they took second place.

http://i44.tinypic.com/2hrd4qc.jpg

A duel between the 'Colibri' and the Italian boat 'Pinot di Pinot', piloted by Renato della Valle, developed. The two boats, with the 'Colibri' still in second place, approached a signal where they had to turn around. Not far away the smaller Esso-tanker 'Avon' cruised the sea. To be in front after the turning-point, the 'Colibri' crew stayed on the throttle but took a narrower way around the turning-point, then hit a wave produced by the tanker. Suddenly the extremely light an unstable 'Colibri' was in the air, went head-over, crashed down onto the surface again, onto water that is as hard as concrete at speeds like these. The crew was killed instantly while the boat was only slightly damaged. The lifeless bodies of Didier Pironi, Jean-Claude Guénard and Bernard Giroux were brought back to the Isle of Wight by Navy helicopters.

http://i43.tinypic.com/taj2pd.jpg

Didier Pironi was buried at Grimaud near St.Tropez a few days later. He left his wife Catherine, pregnant with twins.

After the accident José Dolhem took over the role as team principal, the 'Colibri' was salved, fitted with a kind of a 'hardtop' roof and raced by (among others) Jean-Pierre Jarier. The team decided to continue the season in honour of Didier and his crew. Then, at the beginning of the 1988 season, José Dolhem, on the way to the event off St.Tropez, died in an airplane crash. By this the Leader team had practically stopped to exist. The boat was stored in a shed of the Leader property at St.Tropez.

http://i39.tinypic.com/2mkzsg.jpg

After many years when the carbon fuselage had already begun to delaminate, the boat was finally sold for one Euro to Michel Hommell, a publisher of many car and motorsport magazines in France, at that time producer of an exclusive sportscar and owner of a beautiful museum called the Manoir de l'Automobile at Lohéac in Brittany, France.

With the help of Lamborghini and the Abbate brothers, the famous boat constructors from Lago di Como in Italy, the Colibri has been restored and is now on exhibition at the Manoir de l'Automobile.

Boat in the museun
http://www.manoir-automobile.fr

More in http://www.didierpironi.net

http://www.didierpironi.net/boat/boats_d.htm

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Didier_Pironi

View in the map museum

Those who know you do not forget

Top Banana 03-09-2009 03:56 PM

Motorcies....thanks for the background you posted here. As you were around Monaco in those days, did you know Jochen Mass? He was another Formula 1 guy who loved boats.

Motorcies 03-09-2009 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Top Banana (Post 2817571)
Motorcies....thanks for the background you posted here. As you were around Monaco in those days, did you know Jochen Mass? He was another Formula 1 guy who loved boats.

If I appreciate and I love this old-time racing, thanks

The boat is currently in the museum in France and can be accessed

Image 360 colibri in the museum

http://www.manoir-automobile.fr/wrap...amborghini.php

position museum in france

http://maps.google.es/maps?f=q&sourc...08404&t=h&z=14

jeff32 03-09-2009 05:29 PM

I did not know! thanks!

oreo11zeus 03-09-2009 05:43 PM

Facebook
 
Great model boats - Didier Pironi`s "Colibri"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...&id=1031346146

Black Tornado 03-09-2009 06:44 PM

Thank you for having told to whom of our friends from the overseas that didn't know yet who was exactly Didier Pironi and of his project that was bringing in offshore.
Didier faced his second sporting adventure after that exciting and tragic of the F1, with great appointment and conviction.
Its project to bring to great levels for the first time in offshore a French team with Italian contribution was starting to give results when the destiny has wanted to break everything this.
I remember well when for the Viareggio-Bastia-Viareggio of that 1987 his boat had some technical problems and reached Viareggio during the night before the race, with the new engines.
During the competition with rough sea he made a race of assault with a boat that really it was not the best for those conditions.
But he exalted the spectators.
The Colibrì was an interesting project but with some defects that have been also perhaps fatal to Didier, Guenard and Giroux.
And of this we have spoken in a old thread.
But I believe that if he had been able to continue in his job Pironi would have known how to draw teachings from this to improve.
His rout was that correct.

georges 03-09-2009 07:11 PM

Thank you for the interesting story, Didier was one of my favorite F1 drivers.

olli 03-10-2009 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by Motorcies (Post 2817562)
...Additionally Leader competed with three boats in the 1986 European Offshore-Championship, with an Abbate 41 with Didier Pironi on board, a Conquest 39 ('Rocky') and a Cigarette 38.....

Thanks for the info and pics!!! Do you know if Pironi used a white aluminum raceboat for a while?



Originally Posted by Motorcies (Post 2817562)
....After the accident José Dolhem took over the role as team principal, the 'Colibri' was salved, fitted with a kind of a 'hardtop' roof and raced by (among others) Jean-Pierre Jarier. ......

So now I am sure only three of these beautiful boats were made
1. Colibri, later fitted with the canopy and after that restored to its original shape,
2. white/blue pleasure version also used as brochure boat still in good condition stored in a garage in France,
3. the white unfinished boat that is around St. Tropez.

This is the prototype of the Gepard 41' built by Decibel. Do you have any pics of the finished boat?:

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff120/oli5400/z2.jpg


PS: You have a very nice website Motorcies!

hallj 03-16-2009 05:32 PM

Pictures from the museum are located here:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/c...523-buzzi.html

Jeff

GLH 03-16-2009 06:49 PM

He was a piece of sh!t rich kid that bought his ride with Ferrari in the early 80's and disobeyed team orders by passing his teammate who had slow down to preserve his mechanic moments before the finish line to win the Italian Grand Prix in Monza.

Subsequently the following Grand Prix his teammate killed himself in qualifying trying to assure he would qualify in front of that dirtbag.

No tears shead here when he wipped himself out.

Sorry about the others involved in the accident and his wife and kids.

BTW it is spelled Pironi like in your text not your title.

Black Tornado 03-16-2009 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 2822529)
He was a piece of sh!t rich kid that bought his ride with Ferrari in the early 80's and disobeyed team orders by passing his teammate who had slow down to preserve his mechanic moments before the finish line to win the Italian Grand Prix in Monza.

Subsequently the following Grand Prix his teammate killed himself in qualifying trying to assure he would qualify in front of that dirtbag.

No tears shead here when he wipped himself out.

Sorry about the others involved in the accident and his wife and kids.

BTW it is spelled Pironi like in your text not your title.


I premise that Pironi wasn't a my favorite driver is amazing your fury against the Frenchman.
The competition to which you report was disputed at Imola and not Monza and the guilt of everything it was of the Scuderia and of its notorious "orders". A driver always races and however to win and not to be to the insipid orders of the teams.
Villeneuve died in Belgium for an accident -a la - Villeneuve.
So many times he made spectacular accident where is went out staying alive. Any responsibility for the fact of Imola.

GLH 03-16-2009 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2822598)
I premise that Pironi wasn't a my favorite driver is amazing your fury against the Frenchman.
The competition to which you report was disputed at Imola and not Monza and the guilt of everything it was of the Scuderia and of its notorious "orders". A driver always races and however to win and not to be to the insipid orders of the teams.
Villeneuve died in Belgium for an accident -a la - Villeneuve.
So many times he made spectacular accident where is went out staying alive. Any responsibility for the fact of Imola.

Thanks for keeping straight about location I did not feel like researching it at all. Doesn't change the smell of that cornhole.

Villeneuve had always played by the rules at Ferrari, ask Jodie Sheckter.

Black Tornado 03-17-2009 04:00 AM

With Scheckter-Villeneuve there was a contract accord.
I don't think that with Villeneuve-Pironi the contract was the same.
That GPs of Imola it was famous for the protest of the main British teams that they boycotted the race against some rules decisions of the International Federation.
In Ferrari they were foretasted the triumph that had to be a victory parade.And therefore they dictated their law on the race to do to the two drivers. But someone ruined the party.
By the way the responsability was for Ferrari as often it happen at the Scuderia.
See Barrichello-Schumacher at Zeltweg 2002....

T2x 03-17-2009 07:51 AM

It appears that Vermont and Quebec have a problem with France. After the amazing success that the Quebec militia had against the Oklahoma National Guard a few years ago...can a new invasion be imminent?...... I understand that the Quebec forces are gathering at the Maine Border...... Could they be preparing to drive eastward??????

Reports from the scene indicate that chants of "In the name of Villeneuve, we have something to prove!" have been heard at all hours of the day and night.

The French of course are unfazed by this and an unnamed member of their leadership is confident. "We will use zee same tactics that worked so well against Hitler." he said. These tactics seem to involve drinking wine, enjoying dining, and saying "Cest La Vie", whenever an invading army marches through the countryside.

The exception to the normal French malaise seems to be emanating from the growing and newly emboldened Muslim populace who are furious at the moment. However, since this is no departure from their normal mood and mindset, the impact of this is not considered important at this time.

More to follow.....perhaps?

"Vive la difference"

T2x

MikeyFIN 03-28-2009 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by GLH (Post 2822637)
Thanks for keeping straight about location I did not feel like researching it at all. Doesn't change the smell of that cornhole.

Villeneuve had always played by the rules at Ferrari, ask Jodie Sheckter.

Despite Didier Giving his Title to Keke Rosberg, my countryman and our first title in F1, still Ferrari is Ferrari and you either obey team orders or disobey them.
Mika Salo obeyed them and gave a win for Irvine when Schumacher was out and Irvine still knows how it feels to eat from a Flying Finns hand...like the rest of them :evilb:

I feel GLH your rant Is firstofall uncalled for and secondly unsportmanship.

Some drivers was Enzos "sons" and got away with that, Didier being one, Scheckter another one and Gilles too.

FYI almost all drivers in F1 are Rich kids ,,,the Finns prolly being the poorest thou in general as most of them are from blue collar families.
Come to think of it... Dan Gurney was well off... so was Niki Lauda, Ayrton Senna et al... no big deal.
Speed Costs money, how fast do you wanna go ?

Johnny_Stingray 04-28-2009 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by oreo11zeus (Post 2817665)
Great model boats - Didier Pironi`s "Colibri"

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gi...&id=1031346146

Hey...that`s my FB-site! :drink:
And the model is also mine. Soon to be finnished.

It`s a small world....:ernaehrung004:

YVON 05-05-2009 08:41 AM

Hello MOTORCIES
AH! DIDIER PIRONI,i remember him very well,in formula 1
and also the COLIBRI accident,wich,i'm still have an article about him in a magazine
nice your tread about him THANK'S
YVON:cool:

YVON 05-08-2009 07:14 AM

GOOD MORNING
I am looking for informations about 4 italian boats and teams
1.GANCIA dei GANCIA driver BRUNO ABBATE
2.BABYCRESCI driver FULVIO BALLABIO
3.MEDELIL driver ? GIOFFREDI
4.OUTSIDER driver ? BARDELLE

Black Tornado 05-08-2009 07:24 PM

Four great protagonists of 1987 European season.

Gancia Dei Gancia was the former 1986s Pinot Di Pinot ,a CUV 46' designed by Bruno Abbate and built in aluminium,with three Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
With that boat the lamented Bruno Abbate won the offshore class one European title in the 1987.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/250...bbate87.th.jpg

Baby Cresci was the former Jacob Cohen & C.-Outsider of Tato Bardelle in 1986. Built in aluminium by Stain from a Cougar-Stain design of 38' with two Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines in 1987 was drove by Fulvio Maria Ballabio.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/389...resci87.th.jpg

Mededil was the former Yellow Iveco of Antonio Gioffredi in 1985. Built by FB Design it was a design of Fabio Buzzi of 33' with a couple of Aifo turbo diesel engines. With it Antonio Gioffredi became World Champion in 1986 in Auckland.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9696/vbv87.th.jpg

Outsider were several boats in mono and cat hulls of the venetian Tato Bardelle.
The first one was a mono 46' Cougar built by Stain in 1984 with three Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel.
Then the second Outsider-Americanino Jeans then Jacob Cohen & C.-Outsider in 1985-86 was a cat 38' Cougar-Stain design in aluminium built by Stain with two Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
In 1987 there was a third Outsider-Jacob Cohen & C. and second Stain-Cougar cat of 38' in aluminium with a couple of Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
In the mid of the season of 1987 that boat was sold to Stefano Casiraghi becoming Ellesse-Sun International.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/509...ohen87a.th.jpg

Black Tornado 05-08-2009 07:30 PM

Four great protagonists of 1987 European season.

Gancia Dei Gancia was the former 198s Pinot Di Pinot ,a CUV 46' designed by Bruno Abbate and built in aluminium,with three Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
With that boat the lamented Bruno Abbate won the offshore class one European title in the 1987.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/250...bbate87.th.jpg

Baby Cresci was the former Jacob Cohen & C.-Outsider of Tato Bardelle in 1986. Built in aluminium by Stain from a Cougar-Stain design of 38' with two Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines in 1987 was drove by Fulvio Maria Ballabio.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/389...resci87.th.jpg

Mededil was the former Yellow Iveco of Antonio Gioffredi in 1985. Built by FB Design it was a design of Fabio Buzzi of 33' with a couple of Aifo turbo diesel engines. With it Antonio Gioffredi became World Champion in 1986 in Auckland.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/9696/vbv87.th.jpg

Outsider were several boats in mono and cat hulls of the venetian Tato Bardelle.
The first one was a mono 46' Cougar built by Stain in 1984 with three Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel.
Then the second Outsider-Americanino Jeans then Jacob Cohen & C.-Outsider in 1985-86 was a cat 38' Cougar-Stain design in aluminium built by Stain with two Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
In 1987 there was a third Outsider-Jacob Cohen & C. and second Stain-Cougar cat of 38' in aluminium with a couple of Isotta Fraschini turbo diesel engines.
In the mid of the season of 1987 that boat was sold to Stefano Casiraghi becoming Ellesse-Sun International.
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/509...ohen87a.th.jpg

YVON 05-09-2009 06:27 AM

To Black Tornado
 
Thank you for your detailled infos
do you know what happened to these boats now?
:ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:

skunkie_racing 07-08-2013 04:39 PM

http://www.lesmachinesdauguste.com/colibri2.php

found this on the world wide web..
yall probably allready seen it but what the heck..posting it just in case :D


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