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T-Mone 08-31-2009 06:09 AM

scorpion powerboats
 
Any info on these boats? i know they were built in FL. Pics would be great also. How about speeds, handling?
especially on the 24 ss model. Thanks guys

OL40SVX 08-31-2009 06:34 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mone (Post 2943030)
Any info on these boats? i know they were built in FL. Pics would be great also. How about speeds, handling?
especially on the 24 ss model. Thanks guys

we answered you Anthony???

T-Mone 08-31-2009 08:14 AM

yes thank you, looking for some more info.

MidOcean 08-31-2009 11:48 AM

We used to build the boats in the mid eighties. In the mid 90's I took the molds back and sold them to a group in Texas. The boat was originally the 24 Carerra built by Humberto Picon. The molds were bought from him by Seahawk partner Armando Rivera(Cuban Jewlers). Armando traded the molds to us for a finished 24 OB with old school stainless armstrong brackets and 225 Evinrudes. Armando ended up being a silent partner with Ralphy Barca in the Avance effort. Avance copied one of our 32' Scorpions, calling it a 33.

This hull is almost identical to the P and D/ superboat/ Excalibur, etc..etc...

T

no limits 08-31-2009 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mone (Post 2943030)
Any info on these boats? i know they were built in FL. Pics would be great also. How about speeds, handling?
especially on the 24 ss model. Thanks guys

Do you know where there are any? I had a 1988 model w/454 trs and dry gils. Very tough boat and took rough water very well. Handling on mine wasn't that great. I think my drive was mounted higher than others I've seen and had a left handed Mirage. I would love to get my hands on another though.

lowblue320 08-31-2009 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by no limits (Post 2943344)
Do you know where there are any? I had a 1988 model w/454 trs and dry gils. Very tough boat and took rough water very well. Handling on mine wasn't that great. I think my drive was mounted higher than others I've seen and had a left handed Mirage. I would love to get my hands on another though.

here's one but a carrera : http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/1345643079.html

T-Mone 08-31-2009 03:55 PM

what would be a good x dim. on a 24 set up with a bravo and say a blower motor 760 hp.. the boats gotta run with that kind of power?

butch ryan 08-31-2009 07:52 PM

Scorpion Boats
 

Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 2943211)
We used to build the boats in the mid eighties. In the mid 90's I took the molds back and sold them to a group in Texas. The boat was originally the 24 Carerra built by Humberto Picon. The molds were bought from him by Seahawk partner Armando Rivera(Cuban Jewlers). Armando traded the molds to us for a finished 24 OB with old school stainless armstrong brackets and 225 Evinrudes. Armando ended up being a silent partner with Ralphy Barca in the Avance effort. Avance copied one of our 32' Scorpions, calling it a 33.

This hull is almost identical to the P and D/ superboat/ Excalibur, etc..etc...

T

IS JULIO STILL AROUND?

lowblue320 08-31-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by butch ryan (Post 2943529)
IS JULIO STILL AROUND?

sure is and has alot of videos.......

salty dog 08-31-2009 08:01 PM

yes he is still around not in the boat biz. He was hanging out at elliot key last time i seen him. I think he was in the trucking biz now.

fastdonzi 08-31-2009 08:15 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mone (Post 2943360)
what would be a good x dim. on a 24 set up with a bravo and say a blower motor 760 hp.. the boats gotta run with that kind of power?


"Franks Marine" Raced a 24' in Offshore "A" Class with a 468 and a Bravo1, I'd guess they had a 2" high X dim, That was one of the Best "A" Class boats in the country. I think it still races in Puarto Rico. One Bad MOFO thats for sure....

butch ryan 08-31-2009 08:43 PM

Julio
 

Originally Posted by salty dog (Post 2943545)
yes he is still around not in the boat biz. He was hanging out at elliot key last time i seen him. I think he was in the trucking biz now.

MAN, THAT WAS A BAD MOVE IN ECONOMY

MidOcean 08-31-2009 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by butch ryan (Post 2943529)
IS JULIO STILL AROUND?

The last time I saw Julito he was driving a truck out of the port, running containers.

butch ryan 08-31-2009 08:47 PM

Julio
 

Originally Posted by salty dog (Post 2943545)
yes he is still around not in the boat biz. He was hanging out at elliot key last time i seen him. I think he was in the trucking biz now.

HE BOUGHT MY FIRST TEST CAT , A OLD PLUG THAT MUST HAVE WEIGHED A TON. I UNDERSTAND HE PUT CLAMP ONS ON IT BACK IN OLD DAYS

rchevelle71 08-31-2009 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 2943589)
The last time I saw Julito he was driving a truck out of the port, running containers.


Containers of What:eek:

paston1 08-31-2009 09:13 PM

Carrera molds? How many boats used that mold? I would love to find those molds. No idea what I would do with them, but would be cool to have.

no limits 09-01-2009 05:46 AM


Originally Posted by fastdonzi (Post 2943560)
"Franks Marine" Raced a 24' in Offshore "A" Class with a 468 and a Bravo1, I'd guess they had a 2" high X dim, That was one of the Best "A" Class boats in the country. I think it still races in Puarto Rico. One Bad MOFO thats for sure....

Correct. The boat was one of the best around for sure! Boat is in bad shape now, almost not worth fixing...very sad. Watch that boat in 1995 at Palm Beach. Smoking a field of tough boats. Bad A.

T-Mone 09-01-2009 08:42 AM

Guys, what do you think the boat will run with a 540 blower makin 760hp, w a bravo set up.

fastdonzi 09-01-2009 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by T-Mone (Post 2943835)
Guys, what do you think the boat will run with a 540 blower makin 760hp, w a bravo set up.


We ran a 26 Corsa 92 MPH with a N/A 510 ci, we could have went faster with more motor but the boat was at the end of it's speed limit. since these boats have no pad and are true V Hulls the limit of the hull comes at lower speeds. I think your 700+hp motor and Bravo drive will go 100mph, but in this boat high 80's-Low 90's is all you can get. You may have some throttle left. and you be buying a bravo every other month...

MidOcean 09-01-2009 03:04 PM


Originally Posted by T-Mone (Post 2943835)
Guys, what do you think the boat will run with a 540 blower makin 760hp, w a bravo set up.

I see that you have a 24' Pantera. My first national Championship was in a 24 with 235 johnsons in 82. A boat called "macho" with Marshall Ives. The hulls are similar... so imagine your 24 pantera with the vertical CG raised up a foot. The problem w the Carerra/ Scorpion 24 is that they are top heavy, making them want to chine walk. As far as the 760 hp and a bravo .... good luck with that. I agree with Donzi... Boat is capable of 100+ but will the boat take it before you loose control.

T-Mone 09-01-2009 07:40 PM

well thats the motor and drive in my boat now with a high x dim.prop shaft 2 1/2 below boat runs mid to high 90s no prob. im lookin at this scorpion to put all my stuff in. I will set the prop shaft 2 1/2 below bottom. thats what im thinkin. the drive is an xr and ive have no issues knock on wood. also 3 lbs of boost thats it. The guy who has the boat had a 509 and ran very well 82mph. he had to really drive it until he put dual ram steering that straightened it right out plus he had a trs deep.

T-Mone 09-01-2009 07:44 PM

sorry guys this is t-mone`s friend my boat is 1978 pantera knock off. i am in pross of pickin up this scorpion. thanks for everyones imput..

fastdonzi 09-01-2009 08:30 PM

Hey, Your Cool.... I Hope it works out for you....Let us Know....

Lauderdaleboats 09-01-2009 09:22 PM

A couple of years ago there were several Scorpion molds down in Miami 147th street & 27 th Ave. Just around the corner from Concept. I was called in to look at rigging a brand new Scorpion 36 that had just come out of the mold. In the time it took me to prepare an estimate, the doors were closed. I checked in several more times over the next few weeks but no activity. Sea Hawk were building 28 foot CC's a couple of doors down and they shut down soon after. Another boat builder was next door to sea hawk building a funky looking wide beam CC. They sunk a fortune into developing this boat and making mold after mold. They were done in about six months.


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