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Black Tornado 10-22-2009 06:11 PM

Cig. 36' list
 
Here the image to help CAL500.
Every help with info about the 36' from everybody that know something are welcomes!

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1970 the first 36' still named The Cigarette but just sold to Balestrieri

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As Black Tornado in the first race?-Dauphin D'Or 1971.

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Aeromarine I the first Open 1 boat for Bob Magoon - 1970

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Blonde II Roger Hanks in 1971

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 06:29 PM

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Lady Nara - Ronny Bonelli (Ita) 1971

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Starduster - Doug Silvera (Bah) 1971

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Boss O'Nova III - Bill Wishnick 1971

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Innerspace - Tom Gentry 1971

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 06:42 PM

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Fino - Bobby Rautbord 1971 This was the 36' that Rautbord drove in the USA races. Then sold to Bonomi.

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Fino - Bobby Rautbord 1972 This was the second 36' that Rautbord brought in Europe in 1972.

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Black Tornado - Vincenzo Balestrieri (Ita) 1972 it was the second 36' that Balestrieri drove in Europe in 1972-73. Then it became Baccarat for Ippolito in 1977.

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Copper Kettle - Sandy Satullo 1972.

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 07:05 PM

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Aeromarine III - Bob Magoon 1972

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Blonde IV - Roger Hanks 1972 the second? 36' for Hanks.

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Popeye - Dominic Visconsi 1972

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Eraf - Giulio De Angelis (Ita) 1972

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 07:33 PM

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Dante's Inferno - Dante Tognoli 1972 the boat had an advanced cockpit on the deck for Dante.

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Aeromarine IX - Carlo Bonomi (Ita) 1972 in 1973 became the first Dry Martini.

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American Eagle - Tom Gentry 1972 one of the two 36' for Gentry in 1973. This one all in light blue was brought in Europe for the World Championships races .

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American Eagle - Tom Gentry 1973 the second 36' for Gentry in 1973. That drove in US races in 1973-74. Then was sold to the Aussie Arnold Glass and sent in Australia.

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 07:47 PM

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Blonde III - Roger Hanks 1974 Was the former Blonde IV?

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Sabre Dance - Lance Taines 1973 Was it a new built or former something?

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Slap Shot - Art Norris 1973 Originally was it the 36' that Aronow built for himself?

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Dante's Inferno - Steve Tognoli 1973 The 36' for the Dante Tognoli's son. That became Kaama for Betty Cook in 1975.

Black Tornado 10-22-2009 08:01 PM

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Dry Martini - Carlo Bonomi 1973 The third 36'-lightened- for Bonomi that made his debut at Viareggio.

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Rock A Bye - Steve Babin 1973? Then it became the Triple B. A new built boat or a former something?

Those are the probably twentyfive 36' hulls built from 1970 and 1973 by the Cigarette. Several of them became then other named boats for the same drivers or others new owners.

Fast Shafts 10-22-2009 08:38 PM

Black Tornado,
The boat behind "Slap Shot" in post 6 is "White Knight" this was Aronow's original #4 "Maltese Magnum". The Magnum is being restored. I just emailed the owner of the boat to tell him of the picture/thread.:)

Black Tornado 10-23-2009 06:30 AM

White Knight
 
I know that boat. In 1967 Aronow built several 28' with different solutions about engines and trasmissions.

pete60 10-23-2009 07:02 AM

Superb Black Tornado!

Sabre Dance was bought by Arnold Glass in 1975 and run by him in the States for a few years before he bought the Bertram "Copper Kettle" from Sandy Satullo.

And Snap Shot became Jumpin' Jack in 1974.

Aeromarine III is being restored in Norway (or Sweden!). I think that is the boat which became "I Like it Too" .

And didn't Guilio de Angelis acquire the first Black Tornado, also run as Eraf?

Black Tornado 10-23-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by pete60 (Post 2978092)
Superb Black Tornado!

Sabre Dance was bought by Arnold Glass in 1975 and run by him in the States for a few years before he bought the Bertram "Copper Kettle" from Sandy Satullo.

And Snap Shot became Jumpin' Jack in 1974.

Aeromarine III is being restored in Norway (or Sweden!). I think that is the boat which became "I Like it Too" .

And didn't Guilio de Angelis acquire the first Black Tornado, also run as Eraf?

pete60 you are right.

But what end has done Sabre Dance after having been of Glass?
Yes all the boats of De Angelis had the name Eraf that was the acronym of Elio-Roberto-Andrea-Fabiana that they were its children.
6 were the Eraf: 3 Cigs.36' - 1 Cig.35' - 1 Eria Marine 38' - 1 CUV 38'

h2oboater 10-23-2009 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 2977932)
Black Tornado,
The boat behind "Slap Shot" in post 6 is "White Knight" this was Aronow's original #4 "Maltese Magnum". The Magnum is being restored. I just emailed the owner of the boat to tell him of the picture/thread.:)

I like that picture too ! :drink: Here are two more from my box of pictures of the Ex Slap Shot in Key West last year. :ernaehrung004:

TENSION 10-24-2009 05:27 AM

Just saw a 1972 36' on eBay for sale. nice looking hull w/inboards? I don't have the link, maybe Black Tornado should have a look!:drink:

activatorf1 10-24-2009 11:47 AM

That 36 with Inboards is a very good friend of mine , he owns Nuwave marine in Deptford NJ and is also the top selling Merc engine dist on east coast . The boat was built for local devloper back in the day a guy named Skip Levitt who built post WWII developments in NJ and PA and then was sold to an Attorney . The boat was one of one built for offshore fishing with straight inboards and at one time had 440 Mopar engines which back then were the engines to have . It now has new Awgrip paint , new fuel tanks and a stunning custom built trailer with three torsion axles and brakes on all 4 wheels . Could be converted to IO power if so desired . If interested call Ken @ 609-364-1479

Black Tornado 10-24-2009 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by TENSION (Post 2978584)
Just saw a 1972 36' on eBay for sale. nice looking hull w/inboards? I don't have the link, maybe Black Tornado should have a look!:drink:

Is this? 36' flat deck with inboards.
activatorf1 seem confirm that it have nothing to do with the my list above.
However thanks for the signaling.

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activatorf1 10-24-2009 03:27 PM

Yes that's the boat ! Please forgive I rode the short bus :drink:

LW Boater 10-24-2009 05:42 PM

Any pics of the cockpit to see the layout, would it be crazy to put a bracket on the transom with a pair of 300 verados? Is this a Cig that should be restored to original factory specs. for historic value?

activatorf1 10-24-2009 07:36 PM

I think it would be cool , one of a kind for sure . I like that idea better than straight inboards . This is a smokin deal for someone

CAL500 10-26-2009 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2977894)
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/838...ansmall.th.jpg
Dry Martini - Carlo Bonomi 1973 The third 36'-lightened- for Bonomi that made his debut at Viareggio.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/806...ie7374c.th.jpg
Rock A Bye - Steve Babin 1973? Then it became the Triple B. A new built boat or a former something?

Those are the probably twentyfive 36' hulls built from 1970 and 1973 by the Cigarette. Several of them became then other named boats for the same drivers or others new owners.

I will send you my race and production line list from cigarette racing team 20' 24'28'35'36'40'. this list is of the original buyers only. I started racing first in thunderbird raceteam, then formula, magnum,cigarette,msv,funmarine abbate.I am looking old race photos of the boats that I rode in. 24 boats 37 races SM throttleman mech nav boat designer surfacedrive designer

Black Tornado 10-27-2009 08:29 AM


Originally Posted by CAL500 (Post 2980146)
I will send you my race and production line list from cigarette racing team 20' 24'28'35'36'40'. this list is of the original buyers only. I started racing first in thunderbird raceteam, then formula, magnum,cigarette,msv,funmarine abbate.I am looking old race photos of the boats that I rode in. 24 boats 37 races SM throttleman mech nav boat designer surfacedrive designer

Thanks for the interest!
It would be beautiful that you could tell here the yours back in the days with the photos on OSO.
For the list you can send me it to this address:
[email protected]
or post it here.
Marco

damdonzi 10-27-2009 09:04 AM

Is that a 36 in the background of this ad?

http://www.mondialbroker.com/boat.taf?B=117343&K=SRC

Sean 10-27-2009 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by activatorf1 (Post 2978724)
That 36 with Inboards is a very good friend of mine , he owns Nuwave marine in Deptford NJ and is also the top selling Merc engine dist on east coast . The boat was built for local devloper back in the day a guy named Skip Levitt who built post WWII developments in NJ and PA and then was sold to an Attorney . The boat was one of one built for offshore fishing with straight inboards and at one time had 440 Mopar engines which back then were the engines to have . It now has new Awgrip paint , new fuel tanks and a stunning custom built trailer with three torsion axles and brakes on all 4 wheels . Could be converted to IO power if so desired . If interested call Ken @ 609-364-1479


Ahhh Levittown, NY...

What did ken do with the yellow 20 Cigarette hull he had a couple of years back?

Black Tornado 10-27-2009 03:40 PM


Originally Posted by damdonzi (Post 2980289)
Is that a 36 in the background of this ad?

http://www.mondialbroker.com/boat.taf?B=117343&K=SRC

No, that is the Cigarette 35' built in 1976 for De Angelis and that the Roman drove only in one or two races.
It should be the same with no name with which he finished fourth in the Bacardi Trophy of May 8 1976.

activatorf1 10-27-2009 06:08 PM

The 20 was sold to a guy in FLA

damdonzi 10-29-2009 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2980530)
No, that is the Cigarette 35' built in 1976 for De Angelis and that the Roman drove only in one or two races.
It should be the same with no name with which he finished fourth in the Bacardi Trophy of May 8 1976.

Still looks great! Thanks for the clarification.

Black Tornado 10-30-2009 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by damdonzi (Post 2982138)
Still looks great! Thanks for the clarification.

I have sent an e-mail to the broker to have news on that 35' but by the moment no answered.

littlenige 10-31-2009 03:17 AM

Marco thanks for all of the info/pics. Would be great to hear about the 35' Eraf!! Keep us posted!!

Hotpuppy 03-14-2010 07:08 PM

Info about Blond Offshore Race Boat
 
Hi,
I recently bought a 1970 Nova Marine 25 foot offshore boat. In tracing the past ownership on this boat I've determined that it belonged to Roger Hanks / Blond Offshore at one point. It looks like someone has a real collection of vintage race photos and I'm wondering if you might have one of my boat.

I'm in the process of restoring the boat and getting it running again and trying to validate if it was actually a race boat.

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._3258105_n.jpg

This is a current Photo of the boat.

You can see more pictures at:
http://www.facebook.com/hotpuppy72#!...2&id=585094900

Please keep in mind that the boat is rough and I'm just getting started. There are a number of vintage race stickers inside the boat. and the pictures are hi-res so you can see them. Most of the numbers used to race under Blonde Offshore are on stickers on the inside of the cabin.

Oh, and I apologize again for the appearance, I've had it a week and the engines are my first priority.

olli 03-14-2010 11:35 PM


Originally Posted by Hotpuppy (Post 3067321)
Hi,
I recently bought a 1970 Nova Marine 25 foot offshore boat. In tracing the past ownership on this boat I've determined that it belonged to Roger Hanks / Blond Offshore at one point. It looks like someone has a real collection of vintage race photos and I'm wondering if you might have one of my boat.

I'm in the process of restoring the boat and getting it running again and trying to validate if it was actually a race boat.

...

Nice boat. Perhaps you can find some info here:
http://www.supernova19.com/history_a...nova19_com.htm

Black Tornado 03-15-2010 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by Hotpuppy (Post 3067321)
Hi,
I recently bought a 1970 Nova Marine 25 foot offshore boat. In tracing the past ownership on this boat I've determined that it belonged to Roger Hanks / Blond Offshore at one point. It looks like someone has a real collection of vintage race photos and I'm wondering if you might have one of my boat.

I'm in the process of restoring the boat and getting it running again and trying to validate if it was actually a race boat.

Please keep in mind that the boat is rough and I'm just getting started. There are a number of vintage race stickers inside the boat. and the pictures are hi-res so you can see them. Most of the numbers used to race under Blonde Offshore are on stickers on the inside of the cabin.

Oh, and I apologize again for the appearance, I've had it a week and the engines are my first priority.

If the boat is from the year 1970 for Hanks it would be interesting to know if the boat was named "Blonde" which then would follow the Cigarettes 36' "Blonde II "of 1971 and
"Blonde III-IV "of 1972-74.

Hotpuppy 04-21-2010 09:42 PM

From what I understand there are alot of radically different things about this boat compared to other boats like it. Including the sister serial number, which just happens to be in Houston. Running gear is substantially beefier than #122 (this is #123). Engines were new H/M 351W's in 1970 and were pulled, sent to LA and built there.

I originally thought the boat was too small to race, because everything used for Offshore seems to be 36'. However, I was talking to the fellow who owns 122 today and he was saying that in 1970 the boats were smaller.

If there was a Blonde, that might explain this boat.

Here is the starboard side of the cabin.
http://hphotos-sjc1.fbcdn.net/hs487...._3192881_n.jpg
In this picture (above) in the middle is a Roger C. Hanks oval sticker. That was my first clue that associated it with him.

Port Side
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._5627438_n.jpg

Looking forward from hatch:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._4734225_n.jpg

There seem to be 3 numbers on the stickers:
56, 773, and 779.

Here is a clean shot of her lines and running gear. I have the boat suspended from a pair of frames I made so that I could refurb the trailer.
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2404918_n.jpg

littlenige 12-04-2021 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 2978331)
pete60 you are right.

But what end has done Sabre Dance after having been of Glass?

So after all these years Marco Sabre Dance has been found! Great news!


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