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MidOcean 02-24-2010 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3053845)
I do as well. The boat got as cheap as $12K if I remember right, I don't know why the Seller would put the price at $14K on Ebay, maybe just reaching a bit at first to see if it can bring a higher price in a national market.

That said, the biggest problem with the boat is that it runs small blocks. I know they can be built, and I know that it is a lightweight, 29' boat, but I'd still prefer some BBCs in it if I were seriously looking at it.

Having run Lil Rhino with both big and small blocks, I would have to say that the 29 runs better with small. Just my opinion...

MidOcean 02-24-2010 07:10 AM


Originally Posted by 26MartiniMan (Post 3053846)
Its been on Craigslist for WAY too long

In today's market the boat is worth 8k on the high side. Almost half of what he's asking.

wjb21ndtown 02-24-2010 07:11 AM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3053847)
Having run Lil Rhino with both big and small blocks, I would have to say that the 29 runs better with small. Just my opinion...

Really? It seems like you're so limited on your upside though (if you want to work on it). Do you feel the same about a boat that is modified (aluminum heads/intakes/exh. saving weight on those BBC's)?

MidOcean 02-24-2010 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3053849)
Really? It seems like you're so limited on your upside though (if you want to work on it). Do you feel the same about a boat that is modified (aluminum heads/intakes/exh. saving weight on those BBC's)?

sure.. spend 8k on intakes, heads, copper gaskets...etc... at the end of the day, you're even more upside down...

Also remember that "Rhino" was a staggered boat with # 2's. I just loved the ride with the small blocks... The boat was re-rigged with a pair of 454's from Pete Van Kirk and Joe Dabellos(Offshore Marine before Ron Doller bought it). We ran the boat in the Islamorada race in 85... she was a real pig..

wjb21ndtown 02-24-2010 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3053855)
sure.. spend 8k on intakes, heads, copper gaskets...etc... at the end of the day, you're even more upside down...

Also remember that "Rhino" was a staggered boat with # 2's. I just loved the ride with the small blocks... The boat was re-rigged with a pair of 454's from Pete Van Kirk and Joe Dabellos(Offshore Marine before Ron Doller bought it). We ran the boat in the Islamorada race in 85... she was a real pig..

That makes more sense. I wasn't getting into price/cost, I was more talking about practicality and "getting it the way I would want it" if I was seriously considering purchasing it (which I 'm not). It just seems like with those boat anchors back there (TRS outdrives) it should have some BBC's in it to go anywhere. I know our 26' Nova with similar power wasn't a speed demon, and that thing had alphas, I believe.

MidOcean 02-24-2010 07:36 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3053863)
That makes more sense. I wasn't getting into price/cost, I was more talking about practicality and "getting it the way I would want it" if I was seriously considering purchasing it (which I 'm not). It just seems like with those boat anchors back there (TRS outdrives) it should have some BBC's in it to go anywhere. I know our 26' Nova with similar power wasn't a speed demon, and that thing had alphas, I believe.

And with that you have hit the nail on the head... I don't know of too many 29's with bravos... eliminate the transmission and the 40 hp loss per side they take... less weight in the back... maybe big blocks would work better then.

olredalert 02-24-2010 09:45 AM

------Wow,,,MidOcean,,,"Joe Dabellos" Theres a name from the past. I think its the same guy and old friend from Ft. Lauderdale that used to own the "Vette Shop". I did a lot of business with him back in the day and knew he went into the boat biz. Do you happen to know whats happened to him???........Bill S

HTRDLNCN 02-24-2010 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3053848)
In today's market the boat is worth 8k on the high side. Almost half of what he's asking.

I really like older Mirages but I agree. Maybe with a current survey
it would be worth more but seeing as last time it was surveyed was 7 years ago doesnt help its cause.

h2oboater 02-24-2010 10:30 AM


Originally Posted by wjb21ndtown (Post 3053845)
I do as well. The boat got as cheap as $12K if I remember right, I don't know why the Seller would put the price at $14K on Ebay, maybe just reaching a bit at first to see if it can bring a higher price in a national market.

That said, the biggest problem with the boat is that it runs small blocks. I know they can be built, and I know that it is a lightweight, 29' boat, but I'd still prefer some BBCs in it if I were seriously looking at it.

I have had two Mirages, the first one with the small block 280 trs package, and the one I have now has the 330hp bigblocks. Both of them will run about the same speed, around 65mph, but the bigblock setup with more torque dose throttle up faster.. My old Mirage is now being restored with bigblocks now & Bravo drives , will see if it makes a big change when done.

h2oboater 02-24-2010 10:35 AM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3053384)
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