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MF 04-19-2010 04:38 PM

As of this morning i tried to call them and emailed them for info on the hull.....Nothing...:(
Honestly....seeing that the transom has been sealed and glassed....maybe it's been used as a plug ?
:party-smiley-004:

Black Tornado 04-19-2010 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by MF (Post 3091280)
As of this morning i tried to call them and emailed them for info on the hull.....Nothing...:(
Honestly....seeing that the transom has been sealed and glassed....maybe it's been used as a plug ?
:party-smiley-004:

It's possible.
It would be interesting to find the ID inside the hull.
Try to call them again next days...maybe someone reply you.

ufix1 04-20-2010 01:18 PM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 3091267)
I hope someone still save that 'piece fiberglass'.
As I said several times it is a milestone in the history of the Cigarette and the Offshore racing sport.
Someone leaves destroy a Ferrari 312T F1 World Champion in the seventies?
Well that 36' so stupidly abandoned is like a Ferrari F1.
Drove by Balestrieri, De Angelis and Della Valle that Cigarette 36' hull # 01 is the record holder by victories for a offshore boat.
This record of 14 races wins in eleven years of racing it holds with the third Bonomi's Dry Martini of 1973 36' and that is now on sale in England.


Marco , I am working on it , I may know the perfect guy!!!!!!!!

If only I had some storage space... uhhh

mapism 04-21-2010 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Black Tornado (Post 3091267)
I hope someone still save that 'piece fiberglass'.

Apologies if such description sounded offensive, it wasn't meant to diminish its historical value of course... :drink:

Black Tornado 04-21-2010 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by mapism (Post 3092423)
Apologies if such description sounded offensive, it wasn't meant to diminish its historical value of course... :drink:

Understood the sense mapism, but often the fiberglass boats are considered by some purists of wood, soulless boats just because that arise from a mold as a series of clones.
In reality, then each of these boats create a history neither more nor less how all the other boats, sailing.

Black Tornado 04-21-2010 06:18 PM

the History
 
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1970,36' hull #01 Just sold to Balestrieri, the 36'even with the 'insignia' of Aronow with Knocky House and Carl Kiekhaefer during a test off Miami.

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1971 First race,first victory; Dauphin D'Or

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1975 The Last hurrah for Balestrieri after five year of racing with this boat; Bellaria

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1975 Love at the first sight for De Angelis. Again first race first victory for who drove this boat; Dauphin D'Or.

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1976 the first VBV,beating the new 35' of Gentry.

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1976,the second victory at the Dauphin D'Or.

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1977 the second VBV,beating a 35' again. This time that of Doxford and the new Shead 38' tin boats of the Alitalia team. The 36' demostrate to be the best hull in rough seas again.

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1978 with Cosentino third in the CTC.

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1980 Win the Italian Championship with De Simone.

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1981 third VBV. first sight for the rookie Della Valle.

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1988 the last race;driver Alessandro Zodo.

Cigarette 36' hull #01 year of build 1970

First race: Dauphin D'Or August 01 1971 Vincenzo Balestrieri-Jack Stuteville-Philippe Leroy.

Last race: Genoa October 14 1988 Alessandro Zodo-Novi

Drivers:
Vincenzo Balestrieri (1971-1975)
Giulio De Angelis (1975-1977)
Francesco Cosentino (1978)
Tommaso De Simone (1979-1980)
Renato Della Valle (1981)
Alessandro Zodo (1986-1988)

Palmarès:
1971 (2 Balestrieri) Dauphin D'Or,Primo Trofeo Baleari
1974 (2 Balestrieri) Trofeo Pescara,San Remo
1975 (2 Balestrieri + De Angelis) Bellaria Trofeo Nastro Azzurro,Dauphin D'Or
1976 (4 De Angelis) Bellaria Trofeo Nastro Azzurro,G.P.Porto Roma,VBV,Dauphin D'Or
1977 (1 De Angelis) VBV
1981 (1 Della Valle) VBV

1976 European Champion,Giulio De Angelis
1978 European Champion,Francesco Cosentino

1974 Italian Champion,Vincenzo Balestrieri
1975,1976,1977 Italian Champion,Giulio De Angelis
1978 Italian Champion,Francesco Cosentino
1980 Italian Champion,Tommaso De Simone

MF 04-22-2010 02:40 PM

Damn that boat is simply Oustanding !! If i only have an answer from primatist !!!

mapism 04-22-2010 08:50 PM

I'll tell you what
 

Originally Posted by MF (Post 3093640)
If i only have an answer from primatist !!!

Next week I should go there anyway, let me see if I find anyone around to ask directly.
Stay tuned.

tommymonza 04-22-2010 09:07 PM

Hey guys where is a good place to buy powertools around Milan or Lugano and what do you recommend for Electric orbital sanders and rechargeable drills.
Does Ryobi exist over there in 22o volt ?

I have some handyman work and refinishing i need to do for my fatherlaws lake house.

MF I am skilled labor and will have some time on my hands .How far are you on your project ?

I hate to see your 36 never be completed also.

The 36 is my absolute favorite Offshore boat . I have fond memories of riding along side BAM as it left Saugetuck Michigan into the Sunset to Chicago and than the following winter in 85 walking down the street in Ft Lauderdale late one night and hearing some beatiful engines idiling up the canal and once again it was BAM.

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mapism 04-23-2010 06:33 AM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 3093869)
Hey guys where is a good place to buy powertools around Milan or Lugano and what do you recommend for Electric orbital sanders and rechargeable drills.
Does Ryobi exist over there in 22o volt ?

Yep. In Milan there are some specialised resellers if you're looking for something very specific, but you can find most common tools also at large wholesalers like Leroy Merlin, for instance.
Just be prepared to prices generally higher than in the US - don't ask me why!


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