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Zeller one 02-21-2011 07:18 PM

Maverick
 
Does anyone know what ever happened to any maverick boats, or how that design evolved?

ironhead 02-21-2011 07:43 PM

WOWH no its time for (mark) h2o to go on a steve baum show and tell im thinking there were only 2 of these ,maveric and gallow wine there were later units pulled in fla and up north but they were done with wood grain decks and sides like old speed boats but now i difer to h2o to tell the "tell"

no limits 02-21-2011 08:24 PM

I believe there were 3.

no limits 02-21-2011 08:26 PM

Was Gallo Wine now Break Out?

h2oboater 02-21-2011 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by no limits (Post 3332526)
Was Gallo Wine now Break Out?

Gallo Wine became The Hustler, than Break Out. The Break Out is now at Emerald City Harbor waiting for it's restoration by the Mathes family...:drink: The Maverick became Medicine Man and I believe she sank in a East Coast race, today I hear she laying in a field out East.:eek::eek:

Fast Shafts 02-21-2011 11:13 PM

About 10 years ago I found Medicine Man (Maverick) lying in a yard in Tuckerton NJ. When I went to look for it 2 years ago (at the request of an OSO member) it was gone.:(

Zeller one 02-22-2011 04:01 AM

Thanks for feedback and pics,any ideas on hull design? Not many start from scratch !!!!!!!!:

MidOcean 02-22-2011 05:43 AM


Originally Posted by Fast Shafts (Post 3332656)
About 10 years ago I found Medicine Man (Maverick) lying in a yard in Tuckerton NJ. When I went to look for it 2 years ago (at the request of an OSO member) it was gone.:(

I remember this. Didn't it have a small tree growing in it? A TRS gimbal broke and she sank?

I will add that the 32' Miami Scorpion molds came from a company in NJ called Viper.. I always thought that they originated from Maverick but could never et a clear answer...

senzaspectre 02-22-2011 07:28 AM

"Gallo Wine became The Hustler, than Break Out. The Break Out is now at Emerald City Harbor waiting for it's restoration by the Mathes family... "

Under what name will she be restoring as?

Has the boat been racing ever since or was she laid up for some time?

Zeller one 02-22-2011 08:31 AM

I remember seeing vipers being built in nj,and it was a common name hull mold or splash! I think mavericks sides had a creese like cig / apache .

Phil M 02-22-2011 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3332707)
I remember this. Didn't it have a small tree growing in it? A TRS gimbal broke and she sank?

I will add that the 32' Miami Scorpion molds came from a company in NJ called Viper.. I always thought that they originated from Maverick but could never et a clear answer...

As I remember once hearing from Felix Mummalo, who was a principal in the Viper Company the bottom had Sutphen designs or attributes - the top deck was his orriginal design - He was assembling them on Bridge Ave, in Point Pleasant NJ - he lived near by !

Phil

Zeller one 02-22-2011 09:02 AM

Phil- you are correct,I could not put my finger on it right away. Mavericks, I think were heavy and possibly 8'2" wide?

h2oboater 02-22-2011 09:03 AM


Originally Posted by senzaspectre (Post 3332769)
"Gallo Wine became The Hustler, than Break Out. The Break Out is now at Emerald City Harbor waiting for it's restoration by the Mathes family... "

Under what name will she be restoring as?

Has the boat been racing ever since or was she laid up for some time?

As of now she still has the Break Out name on her, & still looks very good. The boat needs all the rigging and powertrain replaced as it has been removed. Break Out has been sitting :eek: since it's last raced in the 90's.

h2oboater 02-22-2011 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeller one (Post 3332699)
Thanks for feedback and pics,any ideas on hull design? Not many start from scratch !!!!!!!!:

Steve Baum raced a 8 Metre Christ Craft back in 1974 called the Maverick. At the September 21 1974 Blue Lagoon race Baum's Maverick flipped killing Baum's crewman Walt Burns, that was the first U,S death in offshore racing. The 8 Metre hull was damaged, and from that hull Baum made the 32' Maverick hulls.

Zeller one 02-22-2011 10:34 AM

Thanks h2oboater-good info!

h2oboater 02-22-2011 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by ironhead (Post 3332472)
WOWH no its time for (mark) h2o to go on a steve baum show and tell im thinking there were only 2 of these ,maveric and gallow wine there were later units pulled in fla and up north but they were done with wood grain decks and sides like old speed boats but now i difer to h2o to tell the "tell"

True Ironhead, Only two were made as race boats. Steve Baum being the privet person who knows how many old school speed boats were made. :eek:

ironhead 02-22-2011 07:32 PM

GO MAG GO tell us more -- please someone invent another old school question, we all must do our part in keeping h2o going i lived down the street from the offshore data base for 10 years and inturned on the many teams for another 14 years under his direct supervision theres more that master yoda knows just pose the questions and let the great carnack un load

hallj 02-23-2011 02:14 PM

Oh ye master of old school offshore and ambassador to the Magnum lifestyle,
Tell us of the lore and legend that is Red Crane............


Your student,

Jeff

Lee 02-23-2011 04:28 PM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 3334162)
Oh ye master of old school offshore and ambassador to the Magnum lifestyle,
Tell us of the lore and legend that is Red Crane............


Your student,

Jeff

Jeff, Red is better known as "The Apostle of Speed" :drink:

ironhead 02-23-2011 07:22 PM

oh great "master" i also stand at the door of the dojo with my yellow belt and gee, we await your tripple black belt of offshore knoledge to tell us more. we stand on the cutting edge waiting for you to show us how to use the buter knife. now turn off oprah and start the "tell"

h2oboater 02-23-2011 11:16 PM


Originally Posted by hallj (Post 3334162)
Oh ye master of old school offshore and ambassador to the Magnum lifestyle,
Tell us of the lore and legend that is Red Crane............


Your student,

Jeff

Be nice or I will pull your library card & make you and ironhead stand in the corner. After spending last Sunday at Reds house, :eek: I'm just not feeling a good Red story yet.:rolleyes:

Zeller one 02-24-2011 07:06 AM

Found original flyer- race ready 9500 lbs- 8' beam, set up for 366 in sbc on 18' stagger,and ssm 11 s .

h2oboater 02-24-2011 09:26 AM

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Here are the engines that were in the Maverick & the Miss Gallo from back in the day..:drink:

Zeller one 02-24-2011 10:45 AM

Maverick eng pics ?
 
Mavericks appear to be sbc,but gallow looks like BBC ,destrocked? A little heavier,but lighter exaust! Cool pics ,thanks

ironhead 02-24-2011 07:17 PM

louie had kinsler fuel injection at one time i think the carb picture is of the later go round breakout and in the maveric photo is that the anchor bay motor mesiah mr cambel giving a full tour back at you MAG

h2oboater 02-24-2011 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by ironhead (Post 3335393)
louie had kinsler fuel injection at one time i think the carb picture is of the later go round breakout and in the maveric photo is that the anchor bay motor mesiah mr cambel giving a full tour back at you MAG

Took both pic's at the same time at Sun UP Marina race around 1979. Thats Darrell in the Maverick bilge. Back them Louie [Miss Gallo] use many different engines combinations & local engine builders not having much luck.. Eventually I think he used KS&W..

Zeller one 02-25-2011 03:02 AM

Ksw
 

Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3335618)
Took both pic's at the same time at Sun UP Marina race around 1979. Thats Darrell in the Maverick bilge. Back them Louie [Miss Gallo] use many different engines combinations & local engine builders not having much luck.. Eventually I think he used KS&W..

Was the sort of hot lick early80s!

h2oboater 02-25-2011 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by hallj (Post 3334162)
Oh ye master of old school offshore and ambassador to the Magnum lifestyle,
Tell us of the lore and legend that is Red Crane............


Your student,

Jeff

Red started racing on Lake St Clair in a 22'Chris Craft XK Crain Mutiny around 1974. By the late 70's Red would be a crew member in the Maverick with Steve Baum, winning the worlds in 1979 in sport class. Some of the other teams Red has raced with over the years are Lew Cooper's Miss Gallo, Gary Stuewe's Nasty. Red can even be credited with giving Bob Kaiser a start in Reds rent a ride Active cat. :drink:

Zeller one 02-25-2011 03:36 PM

Red
 

Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3335909)
Red started racing on Lake St Clair in a 22'Chris Craft XK Crain Mutiny around 1974. By the late 70's Red would be a crew member in the Maverick with Steve Baum, winning the worlds in 1979 in sport class. Some of the other teams Red has raced with over the years are Lew Cooper's Miss Gallo, Gary Stuewe's Nasty. Red can even be credited with giving Bob Kaiser a start in Reds rent a ride Active cat. :drink:

Thanks for sharing pics and info,it is interesting to see how many threads tie the sport together over the years!

Ryan Beckley 02-25-2011 03:46 PM

Red has been around for A LOOOONG time. My mother worked with his sister in Key West when I was young. He also raced in Skater Express, Race Rock, Cayo MoTown, Cat Can Do, Geo Dynamic Industries, Daddy Cool Too, and many more.

CIG3 02-25-2011 04:06 PM

Red goes back a long way. Loved sitting around listening to the stories.

Back in 2000 "Red" and I ran neck and neck for the GLSCS Boat Whore award, he won by racing in 4 differant boats the same season to my 3. That was a great party.

PowerplayDave 02-25-2011 09:59 PM

break out was a bad a... boat

innerrage 02-25-2011 10:45 PM

i wish they would let 21 to 23 ft boats race with a single smallblock like in the 70s

h2oboater 02-25-2011 11:35 PM

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Here are a few more pic's of Maverick hull that started as Miss Gallo, than the Hustler, & the Maverick of Baums on the Detroit river. The Maverick won the 1979 Detroit river race crewed by Steve & Red Crain... :ernaehrung004:

Zeller one 02-26-2011 08:26 AM

Old maverick pics!
 

Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3336417)
Here are a few more pic's of Maverick hull that started as Miss Gallo, than the Hustler, & the Maverick of Baums on the Detroit river. The Maverick won the 1979 Detroit river race crewed by Steve & Red Crain... :ernaehrung004:

Great pics and hist.thanks for sharing before it all gets lost or forgotten!:ernaehrung004::ernaehrung004:

happy 02-26-2011 04:52 PM

miss gallo was build in the building where sunsation r layed up now.good michigan offshore history:drink:saw the maverick race in key west in 1990.it had kamaa's on it then.c class

hallj 02-27-2011 03:10 PM

Who else had a go in the rent-a-cat?

Jeff

Canalbreath 07-29-2024 04:41 PM

Red Crain update.
 

Originally Posted by h2oboater (Post 3335909)
Red started racing on Lake St Clair in a 22'Chris Craft XK Crain Mutiny around 1974. By the late 70's Red would be a crew member in the Maverick with Steve Baum, winning the worlds in 1979 in sport class. Some of the other teams Red has raced with over the years are Lew Cooper's Miss Gallo, Gary Stuewe's Nasty. Red can even be credited with giving Bob Kaiser a start in Reds rent a ride Active cat. :drink:

For anyone that cares or is interested. I am currently good friends with Red, He just won his 50th checkered flag, throttling Crazy Rythm in the St Clair Riverfest On 7/28/24. He was also inducted into the Michigan Motorsports Hall of Fame November of 2023.


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