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TeamSaris 12-14-2011 08:37 PM

Cheap-ish Shadow Cat
 
Not sure if its the real deal or a splash, but if its solid its an ok deal
http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/boa/2749975951.html

Crash-Box 12-14-2011 09:40 PM

Here you go Lil red & Sick Stinger :party-smiley-004:

SkaterMike82 12-15-2011 11:28 AM


Originally Posted by fast fun 2 (Post 3571306)
Not sure if its the real deal or a splash, but if its solid its an ok deal
http://newyork.craigslist.org/fct/boa/2749975951.html


I have a feeling that boat is going to go cheap......I love those motors but they are nighmares

Big Time 12-15-2011 11:37 AM

That is right in my town. I know George looked at that boat before he bought the other one (see the Shadow Cat Restoration thread he started). I think it is in way worse shape than it looks.

prostock85 12-15-2011 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Big Time (Post 3571680)
That is right in my town. I know George looked at that boat before he bought the other one (see the Shadow Cat Restoration thread he started). I think it is in way worse shape than it looks.

I have many pics at home if anyone wants them. At work but will update with my honest assessment later.

prostock85 12-15-2011 12:08 PM

And it's a 92 built in Rhode Island, It wasn't covered for a while do I actually have it tarped right now in case I bought it.

Gladhe8er 12-15-2011 12:24 PM

3 times bombs on back.

I know another guy besides prostock who has looked at it. He ran back to his truck!

prostock85 12-15-2011 12:55 PM

2 are mod-vp's, the other is a standard 200. One is seized and trailer is non existent.

Side shot I had on my phone

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...85/photo14.jpg

818181 12-15-2011 05:36 PM

Shadow Cat
 
.i'm pretty sure that was Bill Amidons boat called"Moly Black Gold" from New Hampshire,X- Raceboat.

STV92 12-15-2011 05:47 PM

8k boat + 3 motors ,
The parts on the motors are worth that.

I have an awesomecat with 3 motors
Set them low enough & they will run forever.

If not you can buy a complete 2.5 block for under 4k

Interesting :party-smiley-004:

quicklt1 12-15-2011 05:49 PM

Island performance rigged it..
thats Mario from LI???

prostock85 12-15-2011 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by 818181 (Post 3571952)
.i'm pretty sure that was Bill Amidons boat called"Moly Black Gold" from New Hampshire,X- Raceboat.

This boat has always been owned by the same guy. He has some pics of it being built.


Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3571966)
8k boat + 3 motors ,
The parts on the motors are worth that.

I have an awesomecat with 3 motors
Set them low enough & they will run forever.

If not you can buy a complete 2.5 block for under 4k

Interesting :party-smiley-004:

The motors are 2.4's (I think)

prostock85 12-15-2011 07:23 PM

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow013.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow025.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow051.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow075.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow077.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow081.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...2Shadow083.jpg

TGC-32 12-15-2011 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by 818181 (Post 3571952)
.i'm pretty sure that was Bill Amidons boat called"Moly Black Gold" from New Hampshire,X- Raceboat.

Bill Amidon's boat was a Chris Cat, not a Shadow. This thing is in Stamford, CT. If memory serves me, the owner's name is Skip. Man, it looks ROUGH! Shame to see a boat let go to that extent.

STV92 12-16-2011 06:35 AM

Interior is rough, but looks complete enough to make new covers.

2.4 not strong enough, but you could always sell them & buy 2.5 efi 200hp for a little more. They would fit on the mids.
you have 3k in the lowers alone.

Dont like the right side seating but still only 8k.
If I did not already have one, I would be on this one.

Heavy boats but were solid & great in rough water. Would run strong in the great lakes.

Interesting buy & still does not look to bad.
My 2 cents :kiss:

SkaterMike82 12-16-2011 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3572234)
Interior is rough, but looks complete enough to make new covers.

2.4 not strong enough, but you could always sell them & buy 2.5 efi 200hp for a little more. They would fit on the mids.
you have 3k in the lowers alone.

Dont like the right side seating but still only 8k.
If I did not already have one, I would be on this one.

Heavy boats but were solid & great in rough water. Would run strong in the great lakes.

Interesting buy & still does not look to bad.
My 2 cents :kiss:


X1 as long as the boat is solid. Seems like it needs a GOOD cleaning, check motors and interior and trailer for who ever needs. Just the steering is close to what he's asking.

STV92 12-17-2011 07:26 AM

I am sure someone will spend alot of money but for about 30K, it would be nice.

Not many with three motors.
I just dont think they run well with the 2.4s, just not enough tork,hp.

Change the 3 powerheads to 2.5 then it would run.
3l would be better but then you need to change mids, lowers wing plates etc, then price starts getting high.

my 2cents

Dont forget oil & fuel cost :lolhit:

prostock85 12-17-2011 07:44 AM


Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3573063)
I am sure someone will spend alot of money but for about 30K, it would be nice.

Not many with three motors.
I just dont think they run well with the 2.4s, just not enough tork,hp.

Change the 3 powerheads to 2.5 then it would run.
3l would be better but then you need to change mids, lowers wing plates etc, then price starts getting high.

my 2cents

Dont forget oil & fuel cost :lolhit:

I think skip said it ran around 75

STV92 12-17-2011 08:10 AM

First time I have seen seating on the right? not crazy about that.

Are they horn motors? Would love to see them without covers?

Must be heavy, wonder what she weighs?
Still would make more money on selling parts.

If I had space for more boats, I would probably buy it.
Like I need another project :angry-smiley-038:

75mph, not bad but with the 2.4, gas must be ouch!

Mine with the efi promax, run great & great on gas.
Still would sell the 2.4 & get 2.5efi.

Been running the 2.5 promax, x3 for about 5 years and never had trouble with them.
Only issue, watch the water pressure,,,
again, my 2cents:party-smiley-004:

TeamSaris 12-17-2011 08:42 AM

2 300s itd be a nice boat

prostock85 12-17-2011 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3573089)
First time I have seen seating on the right? not crazy about that.

Are they horn motors? Would love to see them without covers?

Must be heavy, wonder what she weighs?
Still would make more money on selling parts.

If I had space for more boats, I would probably buy it.
Like I need another project :angry-smiley-038:

75mph, not bad but with the 2.4, gas must be ouch!

Mine with the efi promax, run great & great on gas.
Still would sell the 2.4 & get 2.5efi.

Been running the 2.5 promax, x3 for about 5 years and never had trouble with them.
Only issue, watch the water pressure,,,
again, my 2cents:party-smiley-004:


as requested

STV92 12-17-2011 10:46 AM

carb motors ouch.
they look like 240hp motors, but looks clean.
Are all 3 motors running?

Looks like someone better buy it before i do! :angry-smiley-038:

Are they all 20" mids set up on the transom?
Any pics of the bilge area?

Is the trailer strong enough to make a 500mile trip.
May be time for a road trip.

Sell the power heads & add 2.5efi.
Anyone looking for 2.4 power heads?

Would be faster and cheaper on gas.

OK, need more pics of the inside cabin, bilge & interior transom,

prostock85 12-17-2011 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3573222)
carb motors ouch.
they look like 240hp motors, but looks clean.
Are all 3 motors running?

Looks like someone better buy it before i do! :angry-smiley-038:

Are they all 20" mids set up on the transom?
Any pics of the bilge area?

Is the trailer strong enough to make a 500mile trip.
May be time for a road trip.

Sell the power heads & add 2.5efi.
Anyone looking for 2.4 power heads?

Would be faster and cheaper on gas.

OK, need more pics of the inside cabin, bilge & interior transom,

Port motor seized

I think they are all 20" mids

30 pitch props

no pics of the bilge

Trailer wont move with no boat on it....rotted almost in half ans 2 axles are rotten/snapped at the ends.

wannabe 12-17-2011 12:16 PM

Someone will have to bring in an A frame- hoist boat up and pull trailer out. That thing has been sitting there for several years based on the wheels sunk in.

Good luck!!!!

Wannabe

STV92 12-17-2011 12:27 PM

30 pitch props

no way they are turning 30" props.

Most I can turn is 28 6500rpm =85mph.

30"s would run around 100 mph.

May sell for 5k, then that would be a deal.
Cabin looks nice!
Still would love to see the bilge area?

prostock85 12-17-2011 12:52 PM

48-19519 30

14.75 x 30

I think the center was 14.50

Maybe different ratio?

If I had the cash I would buy it in a minute. Bolt the V8 300's on for now while I built the other boat.

STV92 12-17-2011 01:56 PM

PROSTOCK85
Yes, we need an update on your work,,,

I had a shadow cat that needed that much attention.
Sold it bought another one, but great job!

Did you ever get a chance to weigh it?

I still dont think they will turn 30"
But, I could be wrong.

The 2.4s were just to small to turn the numbers,

Im running 28 3 blades outside & 4 blade in the middle.
I think mine weighs in about 7000 lbs.

My next goal is 3 300xs motors for mine, this would put me around 100 mph. :evilb:.
But I always have my stv for that :drink:

I would love to hear the 2 8v start up.
Awesome dude, would be awesome!

prostock85 12-17-2011 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3573368)
PROSTOCK85
Yes, we need an update on your work,,,

I had a shadow cat that needed that much attention.
Sold it bought another one, but great job!

Did you ever get a chance to weigh it?

I still dont think they will turn 30"
But, I could be wrong.

The 2.4s were just to small to turn the numbers,

Im running 28 3 blades outside & 4 blade in the middle.
I think mine weighs in about 7000 lbs.

My next goal is 3 300xs motors for mine, this would put me around 100 mph. :evilb:.
But I always have my stv for that :drink:

I would love to hear the 2 8v start up.
Awesome dude, would be awesome!

I'm going to weigh it once I get all the coring/glass work done before any rigging. Probably in the Spring

I'm hoping to have motor 2 running later today, then the tear down starts. Paint and hoses, etc..

If you need any other pictures or anything else I'll see what I have. Somewhere I know my g/f took a video wandering around the boat. Ill see if I can find it.

welfare racing 12-17-2011 03:44 PM

makes me want to pull my boat off of my trailer and pick this one up

Ryan Beckley 12-18-2011 04:09 PM

When these boats were first built by Rich and Able the would go near 100 in race trim with 2.4's. This one must be REALLY HEAVY to go only 75. The trailer is scrap, that makes it a real tough sell.

mikefili 12-18-2011 08:49 PM

Did anyone notice the HIN number? If I remember correctly the shadow cats, and Shadow V's hull number began with IMG for Image boat company located in Lake Hopactcong, or was it KRG for Krononberg, which was Elbe's last name, I forget. I know that we have that info on our bill of sale somewhere, my brother Philip would remember. That was the only Linder Luhrs Shadow Cat operation, well other than Linder's origional Long Island Challenger operation. There After that came Conquest. After Shadow (Image boat co.} went out of business someone from Jersey leased a mold and made a few hulls and even a few 21 shadows, I would not doubt that others did the same. Even doing a splash to make a mold required mold making skill and the operations that made one of two hulls did not have that skill. That Dash shape is not a Shadow dash and the Shadow Cats never had a cabin opening like that. Maybe Rich will step in here and shed some light on what it is.

prostock85 12-18-2011 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by mikefili (Post 3574193)
Did anyone notice the HIN number? If I remember right the shadow cats, Shadow V's hull number began with IMG for Image boat company located in Lake Hopactcong, that was the only Linder Luhrs Shadow operation, after that came Conquest. After Shadow (Image boat co.} went out of business someone from Jersey leased a mold and made a few hulls and even a few 21 shadows, I would not doubt that others did the same. Even doing a splash to make a mold required mold making skill and the operations that made one of two hulls did not have that skill. That Dash shape is not a Shadow dash and the Shadow Cats never had a cabin opening like that. Maybe Rich will step in here and shed some light on what it is.

All the later shadows (90's built in Rhode Island) all had that deck. Last real shadows were in 84 I believe.

Gladhe8er 12-19-2011 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by STV92 (Post 3573368)
PROSTOCK85
Yes, we need an update on your work,,,

I had a shadow cat that needed that much attention.
Sold it bought another one, but great job!

Did you ever get a chance to weigh it?

I still dont think they will turn 30"
But, I could be wrong.

The 2.4s were just to small to turn the numbers,

Im running 28 3 blades outside & 4 blade in the middle.
I think mine weighs in about 7000 lbs.

My next goal is 3 300xs motors for mine, this would put me around 100 mph. :evilb:.
But I always have my stv for that :drink:

I would love to hear the 2 8v start up.
Awesome dude, would be awesome!

I was e mailing with you a few years ago about the Pennzoil(Black Dukc) boat. My Dad was the original owner/driver of Black Duck. Was hoping you were going to bring it back to running condition but I guess not. Any idea where it is now and what the plan is for it?

machloosy 12-19-2011 12:31 PM

How much is that cat really worth? The trailer is junk and pricey to rebuild. 2 of the three motors are seized? The cockpit is junk... I know the lowers and steering are worth something but 8K seems kind of high. Am I way off base? Just curious, since it could be a fun project. I'll be the first to admit I've never run a cat or triple egg beaters

cash68 12-19-2011 02:52 PM

Geez you guys are freaking out about that trailer over nothing. Get it sandblasted for $150 and paint the thing and it'd look brand new.

prostock85 12-19-2011 03:48 PM


Originally Posted by cash68 (Post 3574705)
Geez you guys are freaking out about that trailer over nothing. Get it sandblasted for $150 and paint the thing and it'd look brand new.

Not usuable at all.


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