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topprop 06-04-2013 12:52 AM


Originally Posted by way2fast (Post 3934905)
I am seriously lost on this automotive metaphor!!
The performance of the boats is the same with a given power???
someone explain please? thank you

This is a good question for H2o Boater....I don't remember the power he had in his KV but I've ridden on two Mistress's with what I was told 500's...they were 58-62 MPH boats.

I think on performance the KV will give you more top end. The 38 KV was a dominate boat in offshore for many years after the old 35's were replaced with the 38 SE's.

I must say that the Cigarette rode big for a 35. With the right motors and suited drives ( SSM ) it could be tough to beat.....so in short they are both great boats..

MILD THUNDER 06-04-2013 01:34 AM

The 38 scarab will smoke the 35 cig. :whistle:

Full Force 06-04-2013 04:09 AM


Originally Posted by topprop (Post 3936555)
This is a good question for H2o Boater....I don't remember the power he had in his KV but I've ridden on two Mistress's with what I was told 500's...they were 58-62 MPH boats.

I think on performance the KV will give you more top end. The 38 KV was a dominate boat in offshore for many years after the old 35's were replaced with the 38 SE's.

I must say that the Cigarette rode big for a 35. With the right motors and suited drives ( SSM ) it could be tough to beat.....so in short they are both great boats..

Someones HP numbers are off, I make right around 480-500 hp and seen a best 64.8 with 24P 3 blades at 5000 rpm......always goes 63++

You get 600-700 HP and 70+ mph these Mistress's come alive and I am not sure much is gonna touch the ride quality, they just do what they are supposed to do... same as the Scarab....

Full Force 06-04-2013 04:10 AM

I am still gonna say that the ride and speed numbers are so close its a hard choice, I have yet to be in a 38 Scarab KV, but been in damn near ever other offshore in 35-38 range and not one has rode like a Mistress, not even close...

MrSneakAttack 06-04-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3936560)
The 38 scarab will smoke the 35 cig. :whistle:

i knew i liked you for a reason ha ha

way2fast 06-05-2013 06:14 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 3936560)
The 38 scarab will smoke the 35 cig. :whistle:

Mild Thunder you have had a quiver of boats I am envious of but I am interested you say this..
why? the layup in mistress is silly and they heavy MOFO's they ride like tanks
and the type of person (yours truly) these old school wave busters appeal to want caddy's all looks and velvet smooth rides. so is 2mph difference in top speed why the scarab "smokes"!??

way2fast 06-14-2013 12:51 AM

Mild!?

JP-8 06-14-2013 02:37 PM

In theory, the Scarab should have a slight edge with its 23 degree deadrise and longer running surface, but I doubt there would be much difference in performance if both boats had the same power.

Here's some footage of a poker run from 1986. No Scarabs in this one, but plenty of Mistresses, 38 SEs, and an Excalibur 40 Hawk.

They all run pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ivOiuXKA


The early Mistresses had very nautical styling with high rails and fine joinery. Lots of maintenance with all the teak topside, but very nice.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps4dc355e0.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps982c57a3.jpg

MF 06-15-2013 05:25 AM

Started the video....BAM red 36 !


Originally Posted by JP-8 (Post 3942977)
In theory, the Scarab should have a slight edge with its 23 degree deadrise and longer running surface, but I doubt there would be much difference in performance if both boats had the same power.

Here's some footage of a poker run from 1986. No Scarabs in this one, but plenty of Mistresses, 38 SEs, and an Excalibur 40 Hawk.

They all run pretty well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=493ivOiuXKA


The early Mistresses had very nautical styling with high rails and fine joinery. Lots of maintenance with all the teak topside, but very nice.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps4dc355e0.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y22...ps982c57a3.jpg


scarab kv 07-11-2013 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by MF (Post 3935113)
Kv, there was one in my marina years ago, miami vice Edition repainted white by some german owner....repowered with 502 mag. Timeless Classic.
I should have some pics somewhere...

Any idea where the boat is now?


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