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Boat history
I have a 27 Signature and I would love to know its history. It is a signature boat by title and it defiantly came from the mold but I have found out that it has a Florida issued title (homemade) I want to find out who titled it in 1992 and how it ended up in Michigan I am willing to pay for a boat search but I don't want to pay for something that says what I already know. Any ideas on tracking it down would be great, Thank Bman
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pics pics....great boats
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It's been a long 4 year project but have been very happy with it, it has been a great first summer using it. |
Tommy Adams owned SIGNATURE back in the day,if its an original she was built on 188st in the seventies and early eighties. I think these hulls became hustler or sonic that's a long time ago!
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Love those signatures!
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The signature 27' hull is where the 28 / 31 Seahawks came from.... with a wider chine and a two piece mold. The hull was eventually stretched to 38' - a real disaster.
A 27' was also used to make the hull mold for the 28' Zero Tolerance CC, later called the renegade CC. |
I always thought it was a 27 Magnum hull.
Splashed off his "Miss America" 27 Magnum Sport he raced. |
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It was Steve.
We can recognize those hull lines regardless of the deck they put on them. Say hello to the family. |
The reason it has a Florida issued title and not a Signature is because in was finished after his untimely death. I also understand that the 27 was a splash from his Magnum...Brownie would know.Bud
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Originally Posted by lucky strike
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I always thought it was a 27 Magnum hull.
Splashed off his "Miss America" 27 Magnum Sport he raced. |
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It's been a long 4 year project but have been very happy with it, it has been a great first summer using it. |
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3981259)
Was This the Signature that had the Ford SHO V 6 car engines in it ?? IF it is you did a GREAT restoration.. As far as this boats history when I ask my friend Bob Sheer [ who had a past life with that kind of boat ] about the large deck hatches his answer,, NOW WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY WERE FOR. :eek::eek: What he did tell me was that the lift strakes may have been wider than a Magnum for more lift when carrying heavy loads.
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3981256)
Right you are. Here is a story that I have told before. At the 1976 Charley's Crab St Clair River race Tom showed up with his first 27' Signature that is in this pic. This hull was his Mag sport with it's new deck & still with the Volvo E drives he raced the Magnum with. When I ask why it had a Magnum Vin # he walk away. :party-smiley-004:
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From my research on Signature boats Tommy made two types of boats, just like Mark said. One for racing, the other for carrying.
Also from what I gathered he was killed because he was an informant for the government. That was found out by his killers when they ripped the gold chain and object he wore around his neck and they discovered it was something besides jewelry. Bob and I still have the blue Signature that was in Chicago that is now down in Florida waiting to get started on. Bud |
I bought the 45' Signature Mold from the estate of Bernie Gonzalez. The boat had a crazy 27 degree deadrise. Here is a doc that features Bernie's assassination and from the air you can see the mold in front of his shop.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...type=2&theater |
wow that is an assume vid thanks for sharing...
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H2O, That is the same boat! I did move the cockpit forward about a foot to have more room. I also added the windshield because the previous owner had totally removed the dash so there was nothing. MidOcean thanks for sharing that video, just like a movie! Do you think I could find a name to who ever titled my boat? Someone had to aply for it. LOTOWONTOPGUN I did call that guy with the 27' molds but he has [ATTACH=CONFIG]506837[/ATTACH]not returned my call. Do you think that there is only one mold? or could there be more?
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Steve-
The best part of spending time at the Signature Building on 188th as a teenager was Val's identical twin sister Penny who worked for Tommy in the front office. |
Life and times in Miami, Bernies old race team was called 'The Connection'.
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Originally Posted by slpcamaross97
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Had to fix the rotated picture. The boat dosent even look like a Signature with the picture rotated correct. |
I thought sonic came from coyote. If I can find a project signature in about a year from now it will be on. I wonder how a single 700hp big block would run...
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Originally Posted by turbo rr
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I thought sonic came from coyote. If I can find a project signature in about a year from now it will be on. I wonder how a single 700hp big block would run...
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Sonics (33 and up) came from the Coyote 38. 31 and below came from the 24 Donzi.
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Correct .
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Originally Posted by gttdnbman
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H2O, That is the same boat! I did move the cockpit forward about a foot to have more room. I also added the windshield because the previous owner had totally removed the dash so there was nothing. MidOcean thanks for sharing that video, just like a movie! Do you think I could find a name to who ever titled my boat? Someone had to aply for it. LOTOWONTOPGUN I did call that guy with the 27' molds but he has [ATTACH=CONFIG]506837[/ATTACH]not returned my call. Do you think that there is only one mold? or could there be more?
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Ran across this ad. Looks like a copy of the 27' Signature - a set of molds.
http://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/boa/3995259028.html |
Tommy Adams and Don were not friendly, Tommy built the Signature plant on 188th Street next to Cigarette and put a huge sign on the side of the building that said "If you like Cigarette, you will love Signature." I am sure Top Banana remembers the rivalry as do many others on this board. They were the wild days on 188th Street.
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Originally Posted by gbochis
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Tommy Adams and Don were not friendly, Tommy built the Signature plant on 188th Street next to Cigarette and put a huge sign on the side of the building that said "If you like Cigarette, you will love Signature." I am sure Top Banana remembers the rivalry as do many others on this board. They were the wild days on 188th Street.
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Now I need a photo of it before you old farts can't remember were you put the car keys....what did I just ask for???? Bud
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Originally Posted by mr vinyl
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Now I need a photo of it before you old farts can't remember were you put the car keys....what did I just ask for???? Bud
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No ...the photo on Tommy Adams wall on 188th St. claiming his boats were the best around even better that Cigarette. No love lost between him and Don. Bud
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
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This one Bud.
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