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ratman 09-08-2013 01:33 AM

do you think i cold put a pair of 200 evinrudes on the back of a 18ft manta?
 
i just came across a sweet 18ft manta, seems i have a thing for them after buying a 32 manta cc yesterday. lol

i would think a pair of 200 o/b s would weigh about the same as a sbc and drive, and about the same hp... what do you guys think? thx for any info, rm

flysfloatsor 09-08-2013 12:55 PM

it will be fast!

ratman 09-08-2013 05:45 PM

fast or stupid and uncontrollable fast? lol

jtilt 09-08-2013 05:57 PM

What's the worst that could happen. You would have to start from the beach and end at the beach like a water skier. LOL. Look out Outerlimits. Your speed barrier is about to be broken.

ratman 09-08-2013 06:12 PM

lol... the manta has a notched transom, but i can fabricate a tandem stand off bracket to mount them. i was more concerned about the weight...rm

Unlimited jd 09-08-2013 06:42 PM

A buddy had a 24 carrera that someone converted with a 20" bracket and twin merc 250's I think. It was dangerous over a jet ski wake!

fastdonzi 09-08-2013 07:48 PM

Got a Pic of this 18' Manta?.... As a kid we had a 16' Manta ( Knockoff of a 16' Donzi with a different deck) we had a 90 HP Merc inline 6. it went high 50's trimmed up. I can't imagine 2' longer handling 210 more HP and the added weight on the back.. When we sold the 16' Manta the guy put a 2.4 on it. I Rode in it with Steve Curtis Driving, It went High 70's and he would do "U" Turns going WFO :0 .. He'd trim it till it Peaked in speed & Rpm then trim it down and crank the wheel.. His Ballz are Bigger than His Brain (And He's a Pretty smart Guy)..Anyway, Show me this 18'.....

Smoking Joe 09-09-2013 06:35 AM

You can't compare the weight of two outboards with sterndrives. With the inboards the weight is way forward of the transom. When putting twins on the transom you will need to mount them hard on the transom. Any set back will create a problem with bouyancy and give poor rough water handling.

SkaterMike82 09-09-2013 07:06 AM

I believe the 18 Manta you are talking about is the one a gentleman that I know is selling... Is it brown all original ? If so, that boat is completely original....... Cool looking boatyard and super different as they only made like a handful or so....this one ?

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/4011431264.html

MidOcean 09-09-2013 07:44 AM

The issue won't be getting on plane - it will be coming OFF plane. I think your motors will be getting a bit wet. There's just not enough ass back there to maintain the floatation for that weight that is on the wrong side of the transom. Big difference between the SBC on the forward side and two OB's hanging back 20" (and that's at the front of the motor.) The Manta hull is actually 17' and is a copy / pop of the 16' Donzi. Not much beam back there.

There was a 21' Superboat in Ft. Lauderdale back in the 80's that had two 2.4's. They were flush mounted and still had issues with the motors getting splashed.

machloosy 09-09-2013 08:59 AM

ratman.... You'll sink it hahaha Even a single 200 is going to need a little attention coming off plane. Especially with a set back. That Manta 18 in Miami has the motor sitting on the transom rather than set back, so take that into consideration. The setback effectively leverages the back of the boat even farther into the water and changes the balance point. The result is going to be pretty nose high both getting on and off plane with a single. With twins, you have 600+ lbs hanging 12-18" off the back, the wave coming off plane will literally drown the motors

ratman 09-09-2013 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Premier Perf (Post 3990982)
I believe the 18 Manta you are talking about is the one a gentleman that I know is selling... Is it brown all original ? If so, that boat is completely original....... Cool looking boatyard and super different as they only made like a handful or so....this one ?

http://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/boa/4011431264.html

yes that it! i think i have someone that can go look at it for me tonight... do you know the boat well? any issue with rot in the stringers or transom? i plan ti repower it immediately, i have a 225 i can stick on it. thx for any info, rm

ratman 09-09-2013 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by machloosy (Post 3991021)
ratman.... You'll sink it hahaha Even a single 200 is going to need a little attention coming off plane. Especially with a set back. That Manta 18 in Miami has the motor sitting on the transom rather than set back, so take that into consideration. The setback effectively leverages the back of the boat even farther into the water and changes the balance point. The result is going to be pretty nose high both getting on and off plane with a single. With twins, you have 600+ lbs hanging 12-18" off the back, the wave coming off plane will literally drown the motors

i have a pair o rude 200s is the only reason i was contemplating this swap...thx for your input guys. look like im sticking a single 225 on the back of it...

SkaterMike82 09-09-2013 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by ratman (Post 3991036)
yes that it! i think i have someone that can go look at it for me tonight... do you know the boat well? any issue with rot in the stringers or transom? i plan ti repower it immediately, i have a 225 i can stick on it. thx for any info, rm

I don't know the boat to that extreme but its 100% original... And super rare!!!!

ratman 09-09-2013 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by Premier Perf (Post 3991168)
I don't know the boat to that extreme but its 100% original... And super rare!!!!

thx for the info. i have a guy looking at it tonight at 7 pm, i think it will be kinda cool having an 18 and 32 manta... in colombia outboards are the way to go for parts... no big or small block chevy stuff down here at all...rm

machloosy 09-10-2013 01:55 PM

With a 225 that boat will FLY!!!

MidOcean 09-10-2013 02:01 PM


Originally Posted by ratman (Post 3991038)
i have a pair o rude 200s is the only reason i was contemplating this swap...thx for your input guys. look like im sticking a single 225 on the back of it...

John-rudes are even heavier than the 2.4/2.5's. If you want radical take one of those V-8's off your 32.' That would make more sense.

FST600 09-10-2013 04:05 PM

Hey ratman, clear you inbox. Tom F

ratman 09-10-2013 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by MidOcean (Post 3992037)
John-rudes are even heavier than the 2.4/2.5's. If you want radical take one of those V-8's off your 32.' That would make more sense.

im doing this thing on a budget, i will scrounge up what i can in the 200 to 250hp range, freshen it up and have at it...

im keeping the 300s on the 32 manta, when they get tired they are going to monty racing for the 380hp treatment then back on the boat. i have a pair of rude 200s i will hang onto as spares so i wont be down more than a day or two if i have any sort of problem with the 300s...rm

ratman 09-10-2013 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by FST600 (Post 3992132)
Hey ratman, clear you inbox. Tom F

cleared...

ak89 09-11-2013 11:13 AM

I looked at an 18' Manta once and it seemed rather low in the water. I do not think putting more than one engine on it is a good idea, especially a big fat one!

Ghost28 09-11-2013 05:38 PM

uh..NO!!


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