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1981Scarab 10-10-2016 06:15 PM

1985 Kaama WHat is it worth?
 
https://loz.craigslist.org/boa/5802409071.html

It was redone and does look great. Just had new pics taken.

330hp with TRS drives @200hours on motors. Transom and stringers replaced correctly.

I have a deposit on it.

What do you think it is worth?

Thanks

rak rua 10-10-2016 09:59 PM

Simple price evaluation calculator.....

Length of boat multiplied by total h.p. add 10% for trailer then deduct $10 per foot of length for every season used in salt water, finally, add $1 for every hour under 1,000 on current engines and you'll be pretty close.

Otherwise, you could just use the 'gut feeling' pricing scale.........
The boat looks nice in the pics, check out the usual wet spots in Scarabs (transom, stringers, floor) compression test, water test then see how much you can beat him down on price. :)

I don't think he's far off the mark at 28k. It's a big boat with a pedigree but it is old so realistically, you have to expect the unexpected.

Good luck!
RR

1981Scarab 10-10-2016 10:11 PM

Transom and stringers correctly replaced/repaired.

rak rua 10-10-2016 10:26 PM

You've already got a deposit on the boat at what price?

Every time something is posted here on this boat you run a risk someone else might see it and do a deal. Don't wait too long, sounds like a nice solid boat, I'd get moving and negotiate with the vendor and finalise the deal.

RR

Katanna 10-10-2016 10:36 PM

You have to decide what it is worth to you. Paint looks good in the pictures, what does it look like in person? Could you live with it or would it need a paint job? $10k minimum for that. Next is the power. 330s aren't even a good base to start with. At minimum you would want to be in the mid 60s and that will require new powerplants. $10-15 if your lucky. Now you are creeping up on $50k and you have to look at what is out there for that amount closer to being where you want to end up. It is personally one of my favorite boats. I will head down that road soon. I think with the power, mid teen$ would be a safer place to be.

Griff 10-11-2016 01:38 AM

A little late to ask for advice on price if you put a deposit on it

1981Scarab 10-11-2016 07:43 AM

Deposit subject to inspection, then you decide if you want to buy it at the discussed price or offer less. Point out the issues and ask they be, as advertised, perfect, or acceptable. Or just walk away.

Not sure I am really going to try to make this go super fast. Was planning on using it just to cruise around SW Florida.

I am not sure but I believe the blue on the side is Gelcoat.

Thanks for the input.

rak rua 10-11-2016 08:10 AM

If the boat is 'as described' and you can't agree on price, your deposit is gone.

1981Scarab 10-11-2016 09:47 AM

No the deposit was subject to inspection. You get a chance to look at it or current pictures and decide.

rak rua 10-11-2016 10:19 AM

Deposits aren't what they used to be. If you have fair claim the boat is not up to expectations/description/photos you get your money back. That's fair and reasonable. If you like the boat but then can't agree on price, you get your money back. Mmm?

From the vendors point of view, the deposit doesn't offer him anything more than the promise you will come and have a look at the boat. Sounds like you hold all the aces!

Wonder what he'd do if someone else looked at the boat and offered him an acceptable price. Would he sell or would he say he has to hold off pending your decision.....?

I still say good luck to you if you can get a good deal on a nice boat. :)

RR

johnmiffco 10-11-2016 11:15 AM

paint looks to be original
as I have a 1985 27 Excalibur
with the same exact paint scheme on the sides
its for sale in the Excalibur section to see the same paint
hey u can buy both a 38 daddy and a 27 son boat that are the same welcraft yrs ,design and colors,,,lol

CDShack 10-11-2016 01:14 PM

It's kind of a "what's it worth to you" sort of thing. I didn't see the interior or cabin, if they are all super nice and clean, gauges are all clear and working, motors and mechanicals tight, and you're not looking to break 55-60 mph, it's probably an fair price. Certainly a lot of boat for the money!!!

CDShack 10-11-2016 01:19 PM

I can not in good conscience leave this without referring you to the Thread "HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY FOR A COUPLE OF MILES AN HOUR", and warn you that on a boat like this, the first couple of MPH you can pick up are cheap (or free) then it gets a WHOLE lot more expense to move that big ol' boat faster. I won't even get into the TRS/speed thing.

baywatch 10-12-2016 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by CDShack (Post 4490484)
I can not in good conscience leave this without referring you to the Thread "HOW MUCH WOULD YOU PAY FOR A COUPLE OF MILES AN HOUR", and warn you that on a boat like this, the first couple of MPH you can pick up are cheap (or free) then it gets a WHOLE lot more expense to move that big ol' boat faster. I won't even get into the TRS/speed thing.


Good point!! If you can be happy with it as it sits is one thing but you start doing upgrades look out. It isn't the price of buying a boat but the price to use and maintain and once you start doing Upgrades (speed, cosmetic, etc. ). I have an older boat and I can tell you that just preventative maintenance can become a slippery slope where maintenance items turn into upgrades and once you upgrade one thing you figure you should upgrade the next thing (rather than just replace a part). A lot of great buys out there with boats that have just had a total resto/refit and would be good to go for years and seller just just bit the bullet to redo everything rather than you. It has been my experience that if you actually use your boat and put hours on it you will have to go back through everything every 8-10 years (500hrs) anyhow.

I also agree with those that mentioned that a thread like this puts it on a lot of people's radar that might not of known it for sale and ultimately could increase interest. I know when I bought my boat years ago I didn't mention word of it until it was in my driveway because I didn't want someone that was dragging their feet to pull the trigger before I could.


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