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Everybody please read this
I had something happen to me and thought I'd share it along with a lesson I learned...
Three weeks ago, me, my son, nephew and a friend took the trip over to bimini in my 30 foot scarab. This is the boat we basically restored 3 years ago. We took the deck off, replaced stringers, transom, built engines, transmissions, steering, painted the whole outside, etc. etc. We took the trip over from Dania Beach and the water was pretty rough, 5 footers or so, good hour and a half of getting beat up. When we got over there the first day we went out boating a while and came back and the right motor died and would not start. uhoh. No fuel pressure. Shouldn't be out of gas, should have half a tank. Fuel pumps at the marina were off for the day (the bahamas). Next morning we filled up, mottor fired up, we were good to go, finished up our trip. Got up next day, filled up and made our way back to dania beach. Beautiful water, smooth, great trip back. As we were pulling up on the trailer, literally as I was gassing the boat onto the trailer, right motor dies, 15 seconds later, left motor dies. AS I WAS GETTING ON THE TRAILER AFTER CROSSING 56 MILES OF ATLANTIC OCEAN! No fuel pressure!! Guys the only thing I haven't redone on this whole boat was the fuel tank pickups. Today I hole sawed my way to them, and as I expected. They Gone! Don't be a meathead like me. If not for the Good Lord, we would be bobbing out in the Atlantic somewhere. Check your pickups and be sure they're not about to fall off. Our boats are getting old. If you're going offshore it is a big stinkin deal. http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t...psuzvxpdtt.jpg |
Lucky bastard !
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holy come to jesus moment batman !
save those for christmas tree ornaments. as it happens i have 2 pickups from a 150 gallon tank from a 1984 30 scarab. 15 3/4 length from tip to threads on 90 just over 1/2 inch o.d. just over 5/8 inch o.d. on the stainless 90 threads very thick wall stainless cut on angle at bottom as p/u's are out on the edge of the tank bottom flat spot in good shape, the white stuff at the 90 is pipe dope, it didn't taste like corrosion, and the insides are clean. my micromoter is a plastic easy bake oven variety, plus i'm irish catholic and the nuns said those kind of numbers were the devils, so i can't get better measurements. edit in, they are yours if they'll work for you and or if you want them, pm me where to ship them |
Wow, we found the pickup fell off the race boat 2 weeks ago, have about 4' of 1/2" I.d. Stainless tubing if anyone needs some some very reasonably, had to buy minimum $120 worth
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Thanks guys I'm going to let it sit a while and start on the big boat.(3 tanks) I'll prolly buy me some stainless tubing to make the pickups in it from. Dan do I remember reading that you use aluminum for your pickups?
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the entire fuel system in my hatteras is solid copper. none looks aged, except for a little discoloration. this april was my boat's 50th birthday.
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Last year I fought a fuel starvation problem on a friends mid 80's Formula, we replaced all the filters & fuel lines still no good. Pulled the fuel pick ups all looked good but for some reason I pushed a wire through the pick up tube it stopped. I found a fine mesh screen inside the pipe mid way up, it was blocked. Removed the screen problem solved.
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Originally Posted by hblair
(Post 4584023)
I had something happen to me and thought I'd share it along with a lesson I learned...
Three weeks ago, me, my son, nephew and a friend took the trip over to bimini in my 30 foot scarab. This is the boat we basically restored 3 years ago. We took the deck off, replaced stringers, transom, built engines, transmissions, steering, painted the whole outside, etc. etc. We took the trip over from Dania Beach and the water was pretty rough, 5 footers or so, good hour and a half of getting beat up. When we got over there the first day we went out boating a while and came back and the right motor died and would not start. uhoh. No fuel pressure. Shouldn't be out of gas, should have half a tank. Fuel pumps at the marina were off for the day (the bahamas). Next morning we filled up, mottor fired up, we were good to go, finished up our trip. Got up next day, filled up and made our way back to dania beach. Beautiful water, smooth, great trip back. As we were pulling up on the trailer, literally as I was gassing the boat onto the trailer, I inright motor dies, 15 seconds later, left motor dies. AS I WAS GETTING ON THE TRAILER AFTER CROSSING 56 MILES OF ATLANTIC OCEAN! No fuel pressure!! Guys the only thing I haven't redone on this whole boat was the fuel tank pickups. Today I hole sawed my way to them, and as I expected. They Gone! Don't be a meathead like me. If not for the Good Lord, we would be bobbing out in the Atlantic somewhere. Check your pickups and be sure they're not about to fall off. Our boats are getting old. If you're going offshore it is a big stinkin deal. Attachment 571021 |
Are the pickups part of the tank? Is there a chance that the screens just got plugged up and shut the motors off? Looks like a bunch of crud on them.
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You know something. Occasionally my Scarab will have the port motor lose fuel pressure. Makes me wonder if I'm having the same issue. Good news is there is no hole saw required to pull mine apart.
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
(Post 4584492)
Are the pickups part of the tank? Is there a chance that the screens just got plugged up and shut the motors off? Looks like a bunch of crud on them.
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common problem. I even see the fuel pick up tube that has a rubber fuel hose attached for an extender that has a screen in it. The rubber fuel hose falls off and or comes apart, When the fuel level goes bellow 3/8 of a tank it sucks air. Also seen the rubber fuel hose gum all up as well. Another reason to test with a remote fuel tank and own that set up.
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Originally Posted by Unlimited jd
(Post 4584029)
Wow, we found the pickup fell off the race boat 2 weeks ago, have about 4' of 1/2" I.d. Stainless tubing if anyone needs some some very reasonably, had to buy minimum $120 worth
Want to ask is it one 4 ft section or is it cut in lengths that adds up to 4 ft ? THANKS |
I've been fighting fuel related issues on my 78 Nova 250. I removed the pick ups and looked at them but never ran a wire thru them. I know what I'm doing this weekend. I have been driving my self crazy chasing a lack of rpm for 2 yrs. 4000rpm and 50 to 53 mph.
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I mentioned this in another thread. 88 Wellcraft this summer....removed fuel sender - float was cork. Drained all the fuel so I could look at fuel tank and found piece of the cork wedged under the fuel pick up inlet. Who would have figured.
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Testing the fuel tank side of things. ie the fuel pick up - anti siphon valve - connections at the tank. One can check vacuum hg s coming out of the fuel line by hooking up a vacuum tester inline and running the engine .
Or take a fuel line with a primer bulb exactly like what outboard boats use. Unhook your fuel line at the gas tank and install your new fuel / primer bulb fuel line. get a clear jar - use the primer bulb to siphon the gas into that clear jar - this also will show the condition of your fuel and if any water present. You will know if the fuel flow is restricted or even a broken off fuel pick up tube by doing this testing as well. |
Why the damage to the pickups? Ethanol? Mine are 21 years old and look cherry.
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