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Pt6 07-09-2023 02:03 PM

27’ avanti
 
I’m thinking of purchasing a 27’ avanti. It had an Arneson drive on it. I have a blown 565 BBC. Should I put a stern drive on it or an Arneson ? This boat will be strictly go fast. It’s been gutted and I gotta build it up. If stern drive is the decision, anyone know of any patterns or info as to locate the x dimension properly for a stern drive setup ? I’ll be putting a new transom in it so the option is wide open at this point.

F-2 Speedy 07-09-2023 02:13 PM

What kind of power ? might determine the drive choice, the surface drive would be the best choice for all out speed

Pt6 07-09-2023 02:50 PM

The power is a 565 with an 8-71, 2 AED 850’s a bullet cam and brodix BB3 extra heads. Should be around 900 pump gas motor. Still waiting for the machine work to be finished at Bitner automotive in Trenton nj then the dyno will tell the real numbers.

Too Stroked 07-09-2023 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by Pt6 (Post 4872713)
I’m thinking of purchasing a 27’ avanti. It had an Arneson drive on it. I have a blown 565 BBC. Should I put a stern drive on it or an Arneson ? This boat will be strictly go fast. It’s been gutted and I gotta build it up. If stern drive is the decision, anyone know of any patterns or info as to locate the x dimension properly for a stern drive setup ? I’ll be putting a new transom in it so the option is wide open at this point.

That hull is a real old school wave crusher. That said, it's going to take a ton of power to get any kind of speed out of it. An Arneson will be faster and with 900 HP, a stern drive normally used on that size boat holding up to that much power (and weight) is doubtful. Even with an Arneson though, you'll be surprised who will blow right by you with less power.

TeamSaris 07-10-2023 07:32 AM

That boat will not be happy with an arneson. avanti's need all the help they can get with bowlift.
Ours used to have twin small blocks with KAAMA drives (very similar to arnesons)....it was a bow heavy disaster even with the twins.
Now with a single 525HP and XR drive its just as fast.
With 750HP it ran low ti mid 80s. Thats all that hull wants. If you want to run 90+, get a different hull. You'll thank me later.

TeamSaris 07-10-2023 07:33 AM

We wound up with a 1in spacer in a stock drive. We mounted it where Dennis told us, but couldnt get it to hook up. Ill find the notes and let you know.

Pt6 07-10-2023 08:16 AM

Thank you for the response team sarris. When you say you had a hard time hooking it up, what exactly do you mean by that ? Thank you for searching for any notes my concern is getting that drive in the right spot Look forward to hearing from you

Too Stroked 07-11-2023 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4872757)
That boat will not be happy with an arneson. avanti's need all the help they can get with bowlift.
Ours used to have twin small blocks with KAAMA drives (very similar to arnesons)....it was a bow heavy disaster even with the twins.
Now with a single 525HP and XR drive its just as fast.
With 750HP it ran low ti mid 80s. Thats all that hull wants. If you want to run 90+, get a different hull. You'll thank me later.

I have to agree with the master there on a Bravo giving more bow lift than an Arneson. Only one problem though. 900 HP in front of a Bravo on that heavy hull with anyone less than Jason or Johnny Saris on the sticks is a recipe for shrapnel.

speicher lane 07-11-2023 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4872757)
With 750HP it ran low ti mid 80s. Thats all that hull wants. If you want to run 90+, get a different hull. You'll thank me later.

At the end of the day, that is the reality/outcome of building big power in an old hull that was never engineered to go that fast...... but reality is sometimes like sticking a pin in a power outlet - people will do it thinking they will get the outcome they want.

Sometimes it's simpler and safer to look for the right hull vs. cheap and available - my $0.02

TeamSaris 07-11-2023 08:09 AM

correct. and the "surface drive is best for speed" claim is completely false on this style hull.
An IMCO SCX would be fairly reliable in front of 900HP. But that same 900HP would push a 27 Kryptonite well over 100. That Avanti will become uncontrollable in the high 80s

Pt6 07-11-2023 09:47 AM

Mute point at this time, the boat is FAR from advertised. To do that correctly and right, youd have to take the top of the boat, transom is gone, theres delam from glass to wood, foam around the tank is totally saturated like BAD, it had have been sitting for atleast all of 10 years. Its trashed

speicher lane 07-11-2023 09:52 AM

tub grinder .....or CC/OB conversion (kidding)

Pt6 07-11-2023 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4872931)
tub grinder .....or CC/OB conversion (kidding)

your being nice, unless its a full total restoration, send it to a landfill

12meter joe 07-12-2023 10:34 AM

I ran 1000hp through a Konrad 540 and bam1550 trans on an old 26' martini for 3 years without a single drive issue. Boat ran 100mph with a 34p 5 blade. Maybe the konrad is a good alternative for you?

Pt6 07-12-2023 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by 12meter joe (Post 4873077)
I ran 1000hp through a Konrad 540 and bam1550 trans on an old 26' martini for 3 years without a single drive issue. Boat ran 100mph with a 34p 5 blade. Maybe the konrad is a good alternative for you?

didn’t buy the boat. It’s trashed, too needs to be separated to fix the issues

12meter joe 07-12-2023 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by Pt6 (Post 4873085)
didn’t buy the boat. It’s trashed, too needs to be separated to fix the issues

oh gotcha


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