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weldcrane 02-23-2011 07:34 PM

removing graphics ???????
 
what is the best way to get the to glue off the paint boat is painted with imron vinyl came off easy with the heat gun colors are blue and silver thanks in advance

bert4332 02-23-2011 08:23 PM

My boat is gel, but I used Acetone, it's cheap and worked really well.

Rookie 02-23-2011 08:25 PM

I use WD-40

Wildman_grafix 02-23-2011 09:37 PM

3m makes a glue remover, spray on wipe off. You can get it at most paint supply places. I can look tomorrow and get the numbers off the spray can.

ROTAX454 02-23-2011 09:40 PM

Guys. Where do you come up with this stuff? Acetone???? Read the label. Specific useage and wow, look at the ingredients and warnings. I thought for a minute that I was on Speedbake.

From the professionals for professional work.
http://www.rapidtac.com/products/remover.html

Corbin 02-27-2011 10:25 PM

I dont know if its too late or not, but if they are vinyl stickers, use an eraser wheel! It can be found at most auto parts stores in the body/paint section or any auto paint house should have them. Looks like a disk about 4-5"diameter, 5/8ish thick, has arbor to chuck up into a drill and is made of pencil eraser type material! Works awesome! Never will I attempt to use a heat gun or solvent ever again, does not damage paint and works fast. Good luck.

example here
http://www.amazon.com/3M-7498-STRIPE.../dp/B0013HHNHC

bert4332 02-28-2011 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by ROTAX454 (Post 3334601)
Guys. Where do you come up with this stuff? Acetone???? Read the label. Specific useage and wow, look at the ingredients and warnings. I thought for a minute that I was on Speedbake.

From the professionals for professional work.
http://www.rapidtac.com/products/remover.html

Thick rubber gloves and the proper mask, I came up with mine from Tapplastics.com and JamestownTV these are commercial sites on proper use.

c_deezy 03-01-2011 03:49 AM

Goo Gone will work on the adhesive as well. Works better if you use the spray bottle, give it a few squirts, let it soak and then wipe it off.

offshoredrillin 03-01-2011 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3334598)
3m makes a glue remover, spray on wipe off. You can get it at most paint supply places. I can look tomorrow and get the numbers off the spray can.

i used to use it by the quart, 3M has discontinued it, it was 083380.. use a product called rapid remover, smells like oranges and 100% biodegradable.. just rub it on and let it work, wipe off the adhesive. clean up is a breeze.

RunninHotRacing163.1 03-01-2011 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by Corbin (Post 3337772)
I dont know if its too late or not, but if they are vinyl stickers, use an eraser wheel! It can be found at most auto parts stores in the body/paint section or any auto paint house should have them. Looks like a disk about 4-5"diameter, 5/8ish thick, has arbor to chuck up into a drill and is made of pencil eraser type material! Works awesome! Never will I attempt to use a heat gun or solvent ever again, does not damage paint and works fast. Good luck.

example here
http://www.amazon.com/3M-7498-STRIPE.../dp/B0013HHNHC

Ditto on the eraser wheel ! :drink:

sdodson1 03-01-2011 02:47 PM

+1 on the Rapid remover, just go to a local sign shop and buy a gallon. It won't hurt the paint or gel. I have been using it for years. Too late for the wheel if you already have the vinyl off. It's also very easy to burn gel and paint with one.

Wildman_grafix 03-01-2011 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by sdodson1 (Post 3339157)
+1 on the Rapid remover, just go to a local sign shop and buy a gallon. It won't hurt the paint or gel. I have been using it for years. Too late for the wheel if you already have the vinyl off. It's also very easy to burn gel and paint with one.

I'll have to try it, I have used rapid tack for putting vinyl on.

sdodson1 03-02-2011 08:30 PM

I own a sign co and if anyone needs some Rapid Remover PM me and I will ship it to you at my cost shipping. My way of sayin thanks for all the great info I soak up here!
Sean

bert4332 03-02-2011 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 3339588)
I'll have to try it, I have used rapid tack for putting vinyl on.

How well did the Rapid Tack work after it was in the water for a few times?

Philm 03-03-2011 03:29 AM

I dont know what it would do to a boats gel, but by far the best adhesive remover I have ever tried, without a doubt, was 3m electrical contact cleaner. It was pretty amazing how well it worked. I didnt even spray it directly on the surface, I sprayed it on a rag and then wiped, one swipe took all the residue off.

I used it to remove the adhesive residue left over from the stupid ass operating system stickers on my Laptop (tough stuff), so I know it wont harm plastic.

ThisIsLivin 03-03-2011 12:34 PM

I use lighter fluid, the Napthalin cuts the adhesive but isn't hot enough to hurt the gel coat. I've seen Acetone and Goo Gone cause plastics to yellow over time. most of the adhesive removal products have Xylol and Tolulene in them which will hurt paint, plastic or fiberglass.

bert4332 03-03-2011 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by ThisIsLivin (Post 3341197)
I use lighter fluid, the Napthalin cuts the adhesive but isn't hot enough to hurt the gel coat. I've seen Acetone and Goo Gone cause plastics to yellow over time. most of the adhesive removal products have Xylol and Tolulene in them which will hurt paint, plastic or fiberglass.

I'm kinda baffled by information about Acetone hurting gel. I've watched several videos and read a few books all say clean with acetone prior fixing, spraying, ect... Now acids I've read not to use, such as toilet bowl cleaner ect... But acetone is a ketone, not an acid, if someone could please direct me to a link with negative information on gel coat.

thanx

Wildman_grafix 03-03-2011 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by bert4332 (Post 3340752)
How well did the Rapid Tack work after it was in the water for a few times?

It's only used when putting vinyl on to give you time to work out bubbles or move the graphic slightly.

Works great, once it is dry the vinyl sticks as good as if you didn't use anything.

ezstriper 03-04-2011 06:02 AM

acetone won't hurt the gel..but I would worry about the paint !!! been using the rapid remover for years...works the best and is water clean up after..have a hose ready to clean up after..Rob

sdodson1 03-04-2011 08:16 AM

Yes 2 different fluids from the same company, as Wildman said.
Rapid Tac is an application fluid that aggravates the adhesive and actually improves adhesion while allowing you to move the graphic before squeegeeing to expel the fluid and "set" the graphic.
The remover is an orange oil based product that breaks down adhesive and gel's it. We usually spray it on then wait a few and scrape the majority off with a plastic edge then spray it and wipe clean.

offshoredrillin 03-05-2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by bert4332 (Post 3340752)
How well did the Rapid Tack work after it was in the water for a few times?

rapid tac is basically the same as film-on, they are all really just baby shampoo before the coloring and conditioners are added. it isn't rocket science like the removers are, most window tinters use ivory soap as it rinses clean.
however removers aren't just making the surface slippery and then being rinsed out, they actually have a chemical reaction with the surface as their job is to purify it without damaging it. one you do whatever you need to do, you can accomplish the same by using isopropanol, which is the main ingredient of isopropyl alcohol just diluted, full strength and a clean rag will also stop static while painting ;)


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